whats a 88 Wrangler Sarhara worth? and a couple other questions (long)
08-07-2003, 08:44 PM
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Re: whats a 88 Wrangler Sarhara worth? and a couple other questions(long)
Having read all the replys to your original question, and having just
purchased an 88 YJ Wrangler with 145,000 miles on it...hardtop, full
doors,Laredo model with working a/c, 5 spd trans that doesn't just pop
out of gear, some minor oil leaks, and in general "average" condition.
Oh, new clutch recently too! In Virginia, $3000. Email me if you want
a picture of it. Greg
purchased an 88 YJ Wrangler with 145,000 miles on it...hardtop, full
doors,Laredo model with working a/c, 5 spd trans that doesn't just pop
out of gear, some minor oil leaks, and in general "average" condition.
Oh, new clutch recently too! In Virginia, $3000. Email me if you want
a picture of it. Greg
08-07-2003, 09:05 PM
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Re: whats a 88 Wrangler Sarhara worth? and a couple other questions(long)
In article <3F32F27D.4090101@adelphia.net>, gbray <gbray@adelphia.net> wrote:
>Having read all the replys to your original question, and having just
>purchased an 88 YJ Wrangler with 145,000 miles on it...hardtop, full
>doors,Laredo model with working a/c, 5 spd trans that doesn't just pop
>out of gear, some minor oil leaks, and in general "average" condition.
>Oh, new clutch recently too! In Virginia, $3000. Email me if you want
>a picture of it. Greg
>
Having read your reply, I will mention my newly bought 1994 Sahara YJ with
the standard equipment, 3.07 gears, 4.0L I-6 MPI Engine, 5 speed AX15
manual transmission, Sahara package, rear window defroster, Hard Top group.
Original MSRP including destination charge was $18,459.00. I paid less than
10% of MSRP 3 weeks ago. :) It's in average condition, no AC, no oil leaks,
and www.kbb.com wholesale trade price is ~$2500. Oh the miles are all highway
at 189000. Slight rust here and there at the usual places too. I already
am working on that with POR-15 etc. I had a list of stuff posted that I
already did to it but all the major power train is in great shape and it's
running rather well. I like driving it more than my VW, except on highways. :)
Good luck with your buy. I would offer him between $1500 and $2000...
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>Having read all the replys to your original question, and having just
>purchased an 88 YJ Wrangler with 145,000 miles on it...hardtop, full
>doors,Laredo model with working a/c, 5 spd trans that doesn't just pop
>out of gear, some minor oil leaks, and in general "average" condition.
>Oh, new clutch recently too! In Virginia, $3000. Email me if you want
>a picture of it. Greg
>
Having read your reply, I will mention my newly bought 1994 Sahara YJ with
the standard equipment, 3.07 gears, 4.0L I-6 MPI Engine, 5 speed AX15
manual transmission, Sahara package, rear window defroster, Hard Top group.
Original MSRP including destination charge was $18,459.00. I paid less than
10% of MSRP 3 weeks ago. :) It's in average condition, no AC, no oil leaks,
and www.kbb.com wholesale trade price is ~$2500. Oh the miles are all highway
at 189000. Slight rust here and there at the usual places too. I already
am working on that with POR-15 etc. I had a list of stuff posted that I
already did to it but all the major power train is in great shape and it's
running rather well. I like driving it more than my VW, except on highways. :)
Good luck with your buy. I would offer him between $1500 and $2000...
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08-07-2003, 09:52 PM
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Re: whats a 88 Wrangler Sarhara worth? and a couple other questions(long)
J Strickland wrote:
> You _could_ be right, but probably aren't. I came to the same conclusion as
> you did, twice, and was wrong.
Experience is the best teacher. I've found out a lot on the Mustang
group that would have cost me a lot of money just to diagnose what
turned out to be very minor fixes. Anyway checked it out closer today..
I can't find the leak itself but it definitely seems to be coming down
from above. Maybe head or valve cover gasket, looking at the job they
did on the valve cover gasket I'm hoping it's the latter.
> Think about it for a moment, the engine is in the engine bay with the front
> higher than the back by about an inch and a half. The oil gets pumped to the
> top, and flows back down through the pushrod holes. The oil will run towards
> the back of the motor and pool there waiting for its turn to drip down the
> pushrods. If the gasket is not intact, the oil will flow out and run down
> the block and into the bellhousing, then come out of the inspection plate in
> a manner that appears to be the rear main seal.
>
> One test is to park so the front is downhill, and see if it still drips. A
> clue is that the motor is very close to the firewall and there is a mess of
> wires in the way, what are the odds that somebody put the cover on and let
> the gasket get away? The odds are pretty good I think ...
Good idea. I'm going to have to degrease behind the valve cover to
eliminate it as a suspect, but I'm holding off until I find a
replacement air cleaner housing; so I can do it when I have it off and
out of the way. All the hoses and whatnot have enough Oil on them that
just feeling around back there isn't going to do it.
08-07-2003, 09:53 PM
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Re: whats a 88 Wrangler Sarhara worth? and a couple other questions(long)
Earle Horton wrote:
> If it is really no rust as you said in another post I would pay up to about
> 80% of N.A.D.A. Blue Book value, whatever that is. I wouldn't expect a
> vehicle that old in Virginia to have an intact floor. I would be looking
> for a recycler to upgrade to the later AX-15 transmission though.
I've been under it for probably over an hour (degreasing and looking for
leaks), the floors are solid as a rock. All the sheet metal is, and the
suspension and frame have been oiled (from leaks) so much they don't
have any rust to speak of. The paint has it's share of warts but it's
all there too.
08-08-2003, 12:36 AM
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Re: whats a 88 Wrangler Sarhara worth? and a couple other questions(long)
In article <3F330027.6040900@erols.com>,
Simon Juncal <sjuncal@erols.com> wrote:
>
>
>Peter Parker wrote:
>> In article <3F32F27D.4090101@adelphia.net>, gbray <gbray@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> Having read your reply, I will mention my newly bought 1994 Sahara YJ with
>> the standard equipment, 3.07 gears, 4.0L I-6 MPI Engine, 5 speed AX15
>> manual transmission, Sahara package, rear window defroster, Hard Top group.
>>
>> Original MSRP including destination charge was $18,459.00. I paid less than
>> 10% of MSRP 3 weeks ago. :) It's in average condition, no AC, no oil leaks,
>> and www.kbb.com wholesale trade price is ~$2500. Oh the miles are all highway
>> at 189000. Slight rust here and there at the usual places too. I already
>> am working on that with POR-15 etc. I had a list of stuff posted that I
>> already did to it but all the major power train is in great shape and it's
>> running rather well. I like driving it more than my VW, except on highways. :)
>>
>> Good luck with your buy. I would offer him between $1500 and $2000...
>
>thanks for all the replies, around 2k is where we're at. Unfortunately
>the owner has an inflated idea of it's value even in great condition (he
>thinks one in great condition would be worth 5 grand because he paid
>about 6). He has knocked off roughly $2500 because that's what he thinks
>a rebuild would cost. End result is I need to talk him down another 500
>or so. Or go check out the YJ Terry has in Herndon, which sounds like
>much less of a project.
It's all relative. $2500 isn't bad. My YJ is no prize either. I just finished
working under it for the day. I wanted to change the MTF but then I noticed
a broken tranny mount. I jacked it up and proceeded to undo the crossmember
and holding the tranny with a piece of wood and the jack. One of the crossmember
bolts is stripped so I can't get the crossmember off. :( There's a bit more
rust down there than I thought and one of the body mounts fell apart when
I touched it. :( Well you get what you paid for I always say. What I will do
is grind down the edge of the bolt so it will pass through the crossmember.
Clean the frame and member up, POR-15 and install a new tranny mount. Bolt
up the member with the remaining five bolts and leave the other one until
I can get a garage to replace the insert for me. Now I know why I was getting
those vibrations and they got much better with all the axle and transfer
fluid changed but it was still there, less pronounced.
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Simon Juncal <sjuncal@erols.com> wrote:
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>
>Peter Parker wrote:
>> In article <3F32F27D.4090101@adelphia.net>, gbray <gbray@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> Having read your reply, I will mention my newly bought 1994 Sahara YJ with
>> the standard equipment, 3.07 gears, 4.0L I-6 MPI Engine, 5 speed AX15
>> manual transmission, Sahara package, rear window defroster, Hard Top group.
>>
>> Original MSRP including destination charge was $18,459.00. I paid less than
>> 10% of MSRP 3 weeks ago. :) It's in average condition, no AC, no oil leaks,
>> and www.kbb.com wholesale trade price is ~$2500. Oh the miles are all highway
>> at 189000. Slight rust here and there at the usual places too. I already
>> am working on that with POR-15 etc. I had a list of stuff posted that I
>> already did to it but all the major power train is in great shape and it's
>> running rather well. I like driving it more than my VW, except on highways. :)
>>
>> Good luck with your buy. I would offer him between $1500 and $2000...
>
>thanks for all the replies, around 2k is where we're at. Unfortunately
>the owner has an inflated idea of it's value even in great condition (he
>thinks one in great condition would be worth 5 grand because he paid
>about 6). He has knocked off roughly $2500 because that's what he thinks
>a rebuild would cost. End result is I need to talk him down another 500
>or so. Or go check out the YJ Terry has in Herndon, which sounds like
>much less of a project.
It's all relative. $2500 isn't bad. My YJ is no prize either. I just finished
working under it for the day. I wanted to change the MTF but then I noticed
a broken tranny mount. I jacked it up and proceeded to undo the crossmember
and holding the tranny with a piece of wood and the jack. One of the crossmember
bolts is stripped so I can't get the crossmember off. :( There's a bit more
rust down there than I thought and one of the body mounts fell apart when
I touched it. :( Well you get what you paid for I always say. What I will do
is grind down the edge of the bolt so it will pass through the crossmember.
Clean the frame and member up, POR-15 and install a new tranny mount. Bolt
up the member with the remaining five bolts and leave the other one until
I can get a garage to replace the insert for me. Now I know why I was getting
those vibrations and they got much better with all the axle and transfer
fluid changed but it was still there, less pronounced.
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08-08-2003, 11:12 AM
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Re: whats a 88 Wrangler Sarhara worth? and a couple other questions (long)
Ebay is a good place to look for comparison vehicle values. They have
lots of jeeps in all kinds of conditions.
Don't use the NAPA blue book value. That number is notoriously
lowball for jeeps. Last time I looked, they valued a 79 CJ7 in
excellent condition at $800. What-eva.
lots of jeeps in all kinds of conditions.
Don't use the NAPA blue book value. That number is notoriously
lowball for jeeps. Last time I looked, they valued a 79 CJ7 in
excellent condition at $800. What-eva.
08-09-2003, 10:34 PM
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Sounds like you got a good deal, and there are some very good deals out
there if you wait long enough and keep an eye on the classified ads.
Today there is a 95 YJ for 5K or best offer in the Stafford Sun. I work
for a local car dealership and we have a 90 YJ with a 4 cylinder and
5spd that we are going to wholesale out soon that may be a very good
deal, but you know you just never know how good a deal you got till you
have your Jeep for awhile. I've had mine now for about two weeks and
have been over it top to bottom, and have put enough miles on it to come
to the conclusion that "I got a Good Deal"! I wish you the best of luck
with yours. greg
there if you wait long enough and keep an eye on the classified ads.
Today there is a 95 YJ for 5K or best offer in the Stafford Sun. I work
for a local car dealership and we have a 90 YJ with a 4 cylinder and
5spd that we are going to wholesale out soon that may be a very good
deal, but you know you just never know how good a deal you got till you
have your Jeep for awhile. I've had mine now for about two weeks and
have been over it top to bottom, and have put enough miles on it to come
to the conclusion that "I got a Good Deal"! I wish you the best of luck
with yours. greg
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