CRWLR

I just remember my driver's training classes in the late '60s when they
showed movies of cars in crashes that had the windshields explode into
flying shards of glass. The movies talked about people being killed by the
glass that would have otherwise survived had the glass turned into little
***** instead of spears. I don't remember what the vintage was of the
examples they showed.




"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-DZTfu6jd1TLp@anon.none.net...
> I think you are off by several years on safety glas windshields. I
> had a 32 Plymouth and a 38 Chevy Club Coupe - bith had safety glass
> windshields and I looked at a lot of junkers in the boneyard with the
> discolored middle layer. I vaguely recall that safety glass and
> hydraulic brakes came in about the same time. I'm not sure about the
> tempered side and rear windows, tho.
>
> I do know that mechanical brake linkages were a flaming nightmare!
> Wasn't that what kept the Beetle out of the US for several years?
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:58:33 UTC "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Automobiles are required to have a windshield if they are driven on the
> > street, so you can't simply fold it down and avoid the flying glass. I
don't
> > recall when they started using safety glass in windshields, but I am
> > thinking it was probably after that Jeep was built, so you probably do
not
> > have safety glass in it and your concerns are very real. It should have
some
> > kind of marks in the corner to tell you what it is. A good glass guy
should
> > be able to tell you what it is just by looking at it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric" <eselk@surfbest.net> wrote in message
> > news:8479df73.0401140759.1df7edc0@posting.google.c om...
> > > It seems like it has regular old plate glass in it right now. Is this
> > > okay, maybe because the size of each pane is so small that it has
> > > enough strength? I'm thinking I'll probably just throw a rock at it,
> > > or drop a rock on it, and see how bad it shatters. Then, if not too
> > > bad, I'll just replace it with the same kind. I'm trying to call
> > > around for prices though, and I'm not sure if it currently has plate
> > > glass or what kind of glass it is. Any recommendations? I own a
> > > motorcycle also, and plenty of times I drive around with the
> > > windshield down anyway, so I'm not to worried about "flying objects" I
> > > guess, but I also don't want the glass to shatter and make it even
> > > more dangerous than driving with no windshield.
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

CRWLR

I just remember my driver's training classes in the late '60s when they
showed movies of cars in crashes that had the windshields explode into
flying shards of glass. The movies talked about people being killed by the
glass that would have otherwise survived had the glass turned into little
***** instead of spears. I don't remember what the vintage was of the
examples they showed.




"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-DZTfu6jd1TLp@anon.none.net...
> I think you are off by several years on safety glas windshields. I
> had a 32 Plymouth and a 38 Chevy Club Coupe - bith had safety glass
> windshields and I looked at a lot of junkers in the boneyard with the
> discolored middle layer. I vaguely recall that safety glass and
> hydraulic brakes came in about the same time. I'm not sure about the
> tempered side and rear windows, tho.
>
> I do know that mechanical brake linkages were a flaming nightmare!
> Wasn't that what kept the Beetle out of the US for several years?
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:58:33 UTC "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Automobiles are required to have a windshield if they are driven on the
> > street, so you can't simply fold it down and avoid the flying glass. I
don't
> > recall when they started using safety glass in windshields, but I am
> > thinking it was probably after that Jeep was built, so you probably do
not
> > have safety glass in it and your concerns are very real. It should have
some
> > kind of marks in the corner to tell you what it is. A good glass guy
should
> > be able to tell you what it is just by looking at it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric" <eselk@surfbest.net> wrote in message
> > news:8479df73.0401140759.1df7edc0@posting.google.c om...
> > > It seems like it has regular old plate glass in it right now. Is this
> > > okay, maybe because the size of each pane is so small that it has
> > > enough strength? I'm thinking I'll probably just throw a rock at it,
> > > or drop a rock on it, and see how bad it shatters. Then, if not too
> > > bad, I'll just replace it with the same kind. I'm trying to call
> > > around for prices though, and I'm not sure if it currently has plate
> > > glass or what kind of glass it is. Any recommendations? I own a
> > > motorcycle also, and plenty of times I drive around with the
> > > windshield down anyway, so I'm not to worried about "flying objects" I
> > > guess, but I also don't want the glass to shatter and make it even
> > > more dangerous than driving with no windshield.
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

CRWLR

I just remember my driver's training classes in the late '60s when they
showed movies of cars in crashes that had the windshields explode into
flying shards of glass. The movies talked about people being killed by the
glass that would have otherwise survived had the glass turned into little
***** instead of spears. I don't remember what the vintage was of the
examples they showed.




"Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-DZTfu6jd1TLp@anon.none.net...
> I think you are off by several years on safety glas windshields. I
> had a 32 Plymouth and a 38 Chevy Club Coupe - bith had safety glass
> windshields and I looked at a lot of junkers in the boneyard with the
> discolored middle layer. I vaguely recall that safety glass and
> hydraulic brakes came in about the same time. I'm not sure about the
> tempered side and rear windows, tho.
>
> I do know that mechanical brake linkages were a flaming nightmare!
> Wasn't that what kept the Beetle out of the US for several years?
>
> On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 19:58:33 UTC "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Automobiles are required to have a windshield if they are driven on the
> > street, so you can't simply fold it down and avoid the flying glass. I
don't
> > recall when they started using safety glass in windshields, but I am
> > thinking it was probably after that Jeep was built, so you probably do
not
> > have safety glass in it and your concerns are very real. It should have
some
> > kind of marks in the corner to tell you what it is. A good glass guy
should
> > be able to tell you what it is just by looking at it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric" <eselk@surfbest.net> wrote in message
> > news:8479df73.0401140759.1df7edc0@posting.google.c om...
> > > It seems like it has regular old plate glass in it right now. Is this
> > > okay, maybe because the size of each pane is so small that it has
> > > enough strength? I'm thinking I'll probably just throw a rock at it,
> > > or drop a rock on it, and see how bad it shatters. Then, if not too
> > > bad, I'll just replace it with the same kind. I'm trying to call
> > > around for prices though, and I'm not sure if it currently has plate
> > > glass or what kind of glass it is. Any recommendations? I own a
> > > motorcycle also, and plenty of times I drive around with the
> > > windshield down anyway, so I'm not to worried about "flying objects" I
> > > guess, but I also don't want the glass to shatter and make it even
> > > more dangerous than driving with no windshield.
> >
>
>
> --
> Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Eric,
There should be a logo on the safety glass like Ford's that I
pasted to my T-Bird's: http://www.----------.com/safetygl--------
I forget my belts occasionally in my cars, but never in my Jeep.
Buy a set.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Eric wrote:
>
> Thanks for *all* that responded. I guess I really picked a hot-topic.
> At least if "safety glass" was what it originally came with, makes
> since to keep it that way.
>
> Just a side note on the "windshield down" laws in California. I have
> no idea what the actual law says, but I'll tell you that if the CHP
> really wants to give you a ticket, they will, no matter what the law
> says. Now, if your lucky, the judge will throw it out, but still you
> probably had to miss a day of work to appear in court. I know I got 3
> seat belt tickets in a 6 month period, in my 1949 CJ2A, when I lived
> in Brawley, CA. The judge got so tired of seeing me that he wrote me
> a note to show the CHP officers whenever they pulled me over, which
> happend another dozen or so times in the next year before I moved to
> Tucson, AZ. In Arizona I was told that I needed a windshield on my
> motorcycle, which wasn't correct, I just had to wear glasses (no
> helmet laws here). I wonder if the same applies for driving with the
> windshield down, maybe it is fine as long as your wearing glasses, or
> in Cali. maybe a helmet as well. But again, I have no idea, and the
> CHP can always write it up as "wreckless driving" if they really want
> to, and leave it up to the judge to decide.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Eric,
There should be a logo on the safety glass like Ford's that I
pasted to my T-Bird's: http://www.----------.com/safetygl--------
I forget my belts occasionally in my cars, but never in my Jeep.
Buy a set.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Eric wrote:
>
> Thanks for *all* that responded. I guess I really picked a hot-topic.
> At least if "safety glass" was what it originally came with, makes
> since to keep it that way.
>
> Just a side note on the "windshield down" laws in California. I have
> no idea what the actual law says, but I'll tell you that if the CHP
> really wants to give you a ticket, they will, no matter what the law
> says. Now, if your lucky, the judge will throw it out, but still you
> probably had to miss a day of work to appear in court. I know I got 3
> seat belt tickets in a 6 month period, in my 1949 CJ2A, when I lived
> in Brawley, CA. The judge got so tired of seeing me that he wrote me
> a note to show the CHP officers whenever they pulled me over, which
> happend another dozen or so times in the next year before I moved to
> Tucson, AZ. In Arizona I was told that I needed a windshield on my
> motorcycle, which wasn't correct, I just had to wear glasses (no
> helmet laws here). I wonder if the same applies for driving with the
> windshield down, maybe it is fine as long as your wearing glasses, or
> in Cali. maybe a helmet as well. But again, I have no idea, and the
> CHP can always write it up as "wreckless driving" if they really want
> to, and leave it up to the judge to decide.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Eric,
There should be a logo on the safety glass like Ford's that I
pasted to my T-Bird's: http://www.----------.com/safetygl--------
I forget my belts occasionally in my cars, but never in my Jeep.
Buy a set.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Eric wrote:
>
> Thanks for *all* that responded. I guess I really picked a hot-topic.
> At least if "safety glass" was what it originally came with, makes
> since to keep it that way.
>
> Just a side note on the "windshield down" laws in California. I have
> no idea what the actual law says, but I'll tell you that if the CHP
> really wants to give you a ticket, they will, no matter what the law
> says. Now, if your lucky, the judge will throw it out, but still you
> probably had to miss a day of work to appear in court. I know I got 3
> seat belt tickets in a 6 month period, in my 1949 CJ2A, when I lived
> in Brawley, CA. The judge got so tired of seeing me that he wrote me
> a note to show the CHP officers whenever they pulled me over, which
> happend another dozen or so times in the next year before I moved to
> Tucson, AZ. In Arizona I was told that I needed a windshield on my
> motorcycle, which wasn't correct, I just had to wear glasses (no
> helmet laws here). I wonder if the same applies for driving with the
> windshield down, maybe it is fine as long as your wearing glasses, or
> in Cali. maybe a helmet as well. But again, I have no idea, and the
> CHP can always write it up as "wreckless driving" if they really want
> to, and leave it up to the judge to decide.