What tire chains to buy for my TJ?
10-22-2003, 07:45 PM
#21
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ?
Colorado State Patrol says four wheel drive plus mud and snow tires are
"just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Earle
"Tim Hayes" <thayes@remove-me.rutgers.edu> wrote in message
news:3f9712aa$1@rutgers.edu...
> The owners manual says it's a no-no with 30" tires and to do the rear
> only if you have <30" tires. I can't figure why though as it looks like
> there is plenty of room.
>
> This site has nice pics of the different types on the same page, though
> I know nothing about this particular vendor:
>
> <http://www.tirechain.com/TRUCK-SUV-CHAINS.HTM>
>
> Anyone know the real story about chain clearences on a TJ?
>
> Handywired wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions for chains? I know nothing.
> >
> > -jeff
>
"just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Earle
"Tim Hayes" <thayes@remove-me.rutgers.edu> wrote in message
news:3f9712aa$1@rutgers.edu...
> The owners manual says it's a no-no with 30" tires and to do the rear
> only if you have <30" tires. I can't figure why though as it looks like
> there is plenty of room.
>
> This site has nice pics of the different types on the same page, though
> I know nothing about this particular vendor:
>
> <http://www.tirechain.com/TRUCK-SUV-CHAINS.HTM>
>
> Anyone know the real story about chain clearences on a TJ?
>
> Handywired wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions for chains? I know nothing.
> >
> > -jeff
>
10-22-2003, 07:45 PM
#22
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ?
Colorado State Patrol says four wheel drive plus mud and snow tires are
"just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Earle
"Tim Hayes" <thayes@remove-me.rutgers.edu> wrote in message
news:3f9712aa$1@rutgers.edu...
> The owners manual says it's a no-no with 30" tires and to do the rear
> only if you have <30" tires. I can't figure why though as it looks like
> there is plenty of room.
>
> This site has nice pics of the different types on the same page, though
> I know nothing about this particular vendor:
>
> <http://www.tirechain.com/TRUCK-SUV-CHAINS.HTM>
>
> Anyone know the real story about chain clearences on a TJ?
>
> Handywired wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions for chains? I know nothing.
> >
> > -jeff
>
"just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Earle
"Tim Hayes" <thayes@remove-me.rutgers.edu> wrote in message
news:3f9712aa$1@rutgers.edu...
> The owners manual says it's a no-no with 30" tires and to do the rear
> only if you have <30" tires. I can't figure why though as it looks like
> there is plenty of room.
>
> This site has nice pics of the different types on the same page, though
> I know nothing about this particular vendor:
>
> <http://www.tirechain.com/TRUCK-SUV-CHAINS.HTM>
>
> Anyone know the real story about chain clearences on a TJ?
>
> Handywired wrote:
>
> > Any suggestions for chains? I know nothing.
> >
> > -jeff
>
10-22-2003, 08:03 PM
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ? (ping san diego jeepers)
Kevin, Jerry, Bill . . . ?
Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
you guys know if this is still in force.
Thanks
Dave
'01 TJ
Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
you guys know if this is still in force.
Thanks
Dave
'01 TJ
10-22-2003, 08:03 PM
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ? (ping san diego jeepers)
Kevin, Jerry, Bill . . . ?
Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
you guys know if this is still in force.
Thanks
Dave
'01 TJ
Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
you guys know if this is still in force.
Thanks
Dave
'01 TJ
10-22-2003, 08:03 PM
#25
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ? (ping san diego jeepers)
Kevin, Jerry, Bill . . . ?
Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
you guys know if this is still in force.
Thanks
Dave
'01 TJ
Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
you guys know if this is still in force.
Thanks
Dave
'01 TJ
10-22-2003, 08:19 PM
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ?
Approximately 10/22/03 16:45, Earle Horton uttered for posterity:
> Colorado State Patrol says four wheel drive plus mud and snow tires are
> "just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
> passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
> like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
> layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
> chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
> capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
*DOES* anyone run cable chains on a TJ, ZJ, etc.
My owners manual also says no deal, but there is definitely
enough room for even the old fashioned clankers under there,
with a tight cable chain can't imagine the problem.
UNLESS, the chain might booger up the anti-skid system or
sensors... or is DC just blowing smoke?
Granted if I lived in nastier area, would probably just use
nice northern european snow tires with full studs rather than
the PITA of chains. Unless using a plow or such in a coupla
feet of broken snow...
>
> That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
> the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
> conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
> chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
> link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
> best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Is there really a good reason not to use them, other than keeping
them in good repair and tightened?
Some older thinwall radials don't work with chains, but cable chains
to my knowledge will work with any tire, and can't imagine even
clankers hurting a multi-sidewall ply all terrain tire.
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
> Colorado State Patrol says four wheel drive plus mud and snow tires are
> "just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
> passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
> like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
> layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
> chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
> capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
*DOES* anyone run cable chains on a TJ, ZJ, etc.
My owners manual also says no deal, but there is definitely
enough room for even the old fashioned clankers under there,
with a tight cable chain can't imagine the problem.
UNLESS, the chain might booger up the anti-skid system or
sensors... or is DC just blowing smoke?
Granted if I lived in nastier area, would probably just use
nice northern european snow tires with full studs rather than
the PITA of chains. Unless using a plow or such in a coupla
feet of broken snow...
>
> That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
> the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
> conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
> chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
> link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
> best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Is there really a good reason not to use them, other than keeping
them in good repair and tightened?
Some older thinwall radials don't work with chains, but cable chains
to my knowledge will work with any tire, and can't imagine even
clankers hurting a multi-sidewall ply all terrain tire.
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
10-22-2003, 08:19 PM
#27
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ?
Approximately 10/22/03 16:45, Earle Horton uttered for posterity:
> Colorado State Patrol says four wheel drive plus mud and snow tires are
> "just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
> passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
> like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
> layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
> chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
> capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
*DOES* anyone run cable chains on a TJ, ZJ, etc.
My owners manual also says no deal, but there is definitely
enough room for even the old fashioned clankers under there,
with a tight cable chain can't imagine the problem.
UNLESS, the chain might booger up the anti-skid system or
sensors... or is DC just blowing smoke?
Granted if I lived in nastier area, would probably just use
nice northern european snow tires with full studs rather than
the PITA of chains. Unless using a plow or such in a coupla
feet of broken snow...
>
> That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
> the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
> conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
> chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
> link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
> best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Is there really a good reason not to use them, other than keeping
them in good repair and tightened?
Some older thinwall radials don't work with chains, but cable chains
to my knowledge will work with any tire, and can't imagine even
clankers hurting a multi-sidewall ply all terrain tire.
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
> Colorado State Patrol says four wheel drive plus mud and snow tires are
> "just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
> passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
> like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
> layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
> chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
> capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
*DOES* anyone run cable chains on a TJ, ZJ, etc.
My owners manual also says no deal, but there is definitely
enough room for even the old fashioned clankers under there,
with a tight cable chain can't imagine the problem.
UNLESS, the chain might booger up the anti-skid system or
sensors... or is DC just blowing smoke?
Granted if I lived in nastier area, would probably just use
nice northern european snow tires with full studs rather than
the PITA of chains. Unless using a plow or such in a coupla
feet of broken snow...
>
> That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
> the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
> conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
> chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
> link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
> best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Is there really a good reason not to use them, other than keeping
them in good repair and tightened?
Some older thinwall radials don't work with chains, but cable chains
to my knowledge will work with any tire, and can't imagine even
clankers hurting a multi-sidewall ply all terrain tire.
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
10-22-2003, 08:19 PM
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ?
Approximately 10/22/03 16:45, Earle Horton uttered for posterity:
> Colorado State Patrol says four wheel drive plus mud and snow tires are
> "just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
> passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
> like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
> layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
> chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
> capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
*DOES* anyone run cable chains on a TJ, ZJ, etc.
My owners manual also says no deal, but there is definitely
enough room for even the old fashioned clankers under there,
with a tight cable chain can't imagine the problem.
UNLESS, the chain might booger up the anti-skid system or
sensors... or is DC just blowing smoke?
Granted if I lived in nastier area, would probably just use
nice northern european snow tires with full studs rather than
the PITA of chains. Unless using a plow or such in a coupla
feet of broken snow...
>
> That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
> the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
> conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
> chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
> link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
> best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Is there really a good reason not to use them, other than keeping
them in good repair and tightened?
Some older thinwall radials don't work with chains, but cable chains
to my knowledge will work with any tire, and can't imagine even
clankers hurting a multi-sidewall ply all terrain tire.
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
> Colorado State Patrol says four wheel drive plus mud and snow tires are
> "just as good as chains" for conditions where chains are required for
> passenger cars. I can't figure out why you would put chains on something
> like a TJ unless you planned to drive on glare ice with rain water or a thin
> layer of mud on top. I never had any trouble with my YJ in winter without
> chains even though I used to live in the Pacific Northwest, the icy slush
> capitol of the world. Perhaps if you want to off-road in snow or mud...
*DOES* anyone run cable chains on a TJ, ZJ, etc.
My owners manual also says no deal, but there is definitely
enough room for even the old fashioned clankers under there,
with a tight cable chain can't imagine the problem.
UNLESS, the chain might booger up the anti-skid system or
sensors... or is DC just blowing smoke?
Granted if I lived in nastier area, would probably just use
nice northern european snow tires with full studs rather than
the PITA of chains. Unless using a plow or such in a coupla
feet of broken snow...
>
> That said chains loosen up with use even if you think you have them set all
> the way tight and you have rubber tensioners on too. Also if you are in
> conditions where you really need chains on a four wheel drive vehicle
> chances are pretty good that you are going to break the occasional cross
> link which will then flail on your inner fenders. For this reason it is
> best to be conservative with clearance when using chains.
Is there really a good reason not to use them, other than keeping
them in good repair and tightened?
Some older thinwall radials don't work with chains, but cable chains
to my knowledge will work with any tire, and can't imagine even
clankers hurting a multi-sidewall ply all terrain tire.
--
My governor can kick your governor's ***
10-22-2003, 08:29 PM
#29
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Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ? (ping san diego jeepers)
Hi Dave,
The Jeeps and 4X4 trucks in my clique were always waved through,
but that didn't stop us from chaining up, this picture of my Daughter,
now 33 taken at Mt. Palomar near Dome Lake:
http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Shannon wrote:
>
> Kevin, Jerry, Bill . . . ?
> Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
> dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
> you guys know if this is still in force.
> Thanks
> Dave
> '01 TJ
The Jeeps and 4X4 trucks in my clique were always waved through,
but that didn't stop us from chaining up, this picture of my Daughter,
now 33 taken at Mt. Palomar near Dome Lake:
http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Shannon wrote:
>
> Kevin, Jerry, Bill . . . ?
> Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
> dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
> you guys know if this is still in force.
> Thanks
> Dave
> '01 TJ
10-22-2003, 08:29 PM
#30
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Posts: n/a
Re: What tire chains to buy for my TJ? (ping san diego jeepers)
Hi Dave,
The Jeeps and 4X4 trucks in my clique were always waved through,
but that didn't stop us from chaining up, this picture of my Daughter,
now 33 taken at Mt. Palomar near Dome Lake:
http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Shannon wrote:
>
> Kevin, Jerry, Bill . . . ?
> Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
> dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
> you guys know if this is still in force.
> Thanks
> Dave
> '01 TJ
The Jeeps and 4X4 trucks in my clique were always waved through,
but that didn't stop us from chaining up, this picture of my Daughter,
now 33 taken at Mt. Palomar near Dome Lake:
http://www.----------.com/snowchains.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Shannon wrote:
>
> Kevin, Jerry, Bill . . . ?
> Back when I had my '56 the CHP used to insist 4wd vehicles either have
> dedicated snow tires or chains on the front for trips up to the Lagunas do
> you guys know if this is still in force.
> Thanks
> Dave
> '01 TJ
