what oil is recamended for 200k +
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Re: what oil is recamended for 200k +
Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
Mike Romain wrote:
> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> void the engine warranty?
>
> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>
> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>
> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>
>>Vito wrote:
>>
>>>"jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>>i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>
>>>Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my Ford (350C
>>>motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there was a loud pop
>>>and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two hydraulic
>>>lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out of the cup
>>>when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic (Mobile 1).
>>>Not any more.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
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oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
Mike Romain wrote:
> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> void the engine warranty?
>
> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>
> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>
> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>
>>Vito wrote:
>>
>>>"jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>>i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>
>>>Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my Ford (350C
>>>motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there was a loud pop
>>>and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two hydraulic
>>>lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out of the cup
>>>when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic (Mobile 1).
>>>Not any more.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
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Re: what oil is recamended for 200k +
Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
Mike Romain wrote:
> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> void the engine warranty?
>
> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>
> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>
> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>
>>Vito wrote:
>>
>>>"jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>>i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>
>>>Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my Ford (350C
>>>motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there was a loud pop
>>>and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two hydraulic
>>>lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out of the cup
>>>when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic (Mobile 1).
>>>Not any more.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
Mike Romain wrote:
> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> void the engine warranty?
>
> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>
> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>
> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
>>A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>
>>Vito wrote:
>>
>>>"jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>
>>>
>>>>i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>
>>>Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my Ford (350C
>>>motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there was a loud pop
>>>and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two hydraulic
>>>lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out of the cup
>>>when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic (Mobile 1).
>>>Not any more.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
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>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: what oil is recamended for 200k +
One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
lower pressure driving on the highway?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
>> void the engine warranty?
>>
>> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
>> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
>> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>>
>> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
>> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>>
>> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
>> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
>> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>>
>>> Vito wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>>
>>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
>>>> Ford (350C
>>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
>>>> was a loud pop
>>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
>>>> hydraulic
>>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
>>>> of the cup
>>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
>>>> (Mobile 1).
>>>> Not any more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
lower pressure driving on the highway?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
>> void the engine warranty?
>>
>> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
>> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
>> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>>
>> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
>> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>>
>> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
>> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
>> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>>
>>> Vito wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>>
>>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
>>>> Ford (350C
>>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
>>>> was a loud pop
>>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
>>>> hydraulic
>>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
>>>> of the cup
>>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
>>>> (Mobile 1).
>>>> Not any more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
lower pressure driving on the highway?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
>> void the engine warranty?
>>
>> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
>> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
>> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>>
>> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
>> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>>
>> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
>> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
>> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>>
>>> Vito wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>>
>>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
>>>> Ford (350C
>>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
>>>> was a loud pop
>>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
>>>> hydraulic
>>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
>>>> of the cup
>>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
>>>> (Mobile 1).
>>>> Not any more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
lower pressure driving on the highway?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
>> void the engine warranty?
>>
>> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
>> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
>> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>>
>> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
>> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>>
>> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
>> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
>> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>>
>>> Vito wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>>
>>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
>>>> Ford (350C
>>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
>>>> was a loud pop
>>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
>>>> hydraulic
>>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
>>>> of the cup
>>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
>>>> (Mobile 1).
>>>> Not any more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
lower pressure driving on the highway?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
>> void the engine warranty?
>>
>> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
>> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
>> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>>
>> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
>> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>>
>> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
>> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
>> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>>
>>> Vito wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>>
>>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
>>>> Ford (350C
>>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
>>>> was a loud pop
>>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
>>>> hydraulic
>>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
>>>> of the cup
>>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
>>>> (Mobile 1).
>>>> Not any more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
lower pressure driving on the highway?
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
>> void the engine warranty?
>>
>> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
>> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
>> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
>>
>> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
>> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
>>
>> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
>> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
>> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>>>
>>> Vito wrote:
>>>
>>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
>>>>
>>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
>>>> Ford (350C
>>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
>>>> was a loud pop
>>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
>>>> hydraulic
>>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
>>>> of the cup
>>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
>>>> (Mobile 1).
>>>> Not any more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jerry Bransford
>>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
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Re: what oil is recamended for 200k +
Good question. It also appears to burn up or get used faster. When
used it physically 'feels' thinner too.
Maybe that is it. My mechanical oil pressure gauge does read lower when
the oil level get low. Every time. I can look at it and know if I will
be down a liter. Could be it allows the engine to run hotter??
Don't really know.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
> weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
> lower pressure driving on the highway?
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> > oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> >> void the engine warranty?
> >>
> >> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> >> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> >> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
> >>
> >> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> >> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
> >>
> >> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> >> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> >> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >>
> >>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
> >>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
> >>>
> >>> Vito wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
> >>>>
> >>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
> >>>> Ford (350C
> >>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
> >>>> was a loud pop
> >>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
> >>>> hydraulic
> >>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
> >>>> of the cup
> >>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
> >>>> (Mobile 1).
> >>>> Not any more.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jerry Bransford
> >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
> --
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used it physically 'feels' thinner too.
Maybe that is it. My mechanical oil pressure gauge does read lower when
the oil level get low. Every time. I can look at it and know if I will
be down a liter. Could be it allows the engine to run hotter??
Don't really know.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
> weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
> lower pressure driving on the highway?
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> > oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> >> void the engine warranty?
> >>
> >> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> >> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> >> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
> >>
> >> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> >> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
> >>
> >> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> >> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> >> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >>
> >>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
> >>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
> >>>
> >>> Vito wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
> >>>>
> >>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
> >>>> Ford (350C
> >>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
> >>>> was a loud pop
> >>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
> >>>> hydraulic
> >>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
> >>>> of the cup
> >>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
> >>>> (Mobile 1).
> >>>> Not any more.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jerry Bransford
> >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
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Re: what oil is recamended for 200k +
Good question. It also appears to burn up or get used faster. When
used it physically 'feels' thinner too.
Maybe that is it. My mechanical oil pressure gauge does read lower when
the oil level get low. Every time. I can look at it and know if I will
be down a liter. Could be it allows the engine to run hotter??
Don't really know.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
> weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
> lower pressure driving on the highway?
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> > oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> >> void the engine warranty?
> >>
> >> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> >> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> >> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
> >>
> >> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> >> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
> >>
> >> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> >> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> >> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >>
> >>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
> >>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
> >>>
> >>> Vito wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
> >>>>
> >>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
> >>>> Ford (350C
> >>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
> >>>> was a loud pop
> >>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
> >>>> hydraulic
> >>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
> >>>> of the cup
> >>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
> >>>> (Mobile 1).
> >>>> Not any more.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jerry Bransford
> >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
used it physically 'feels' thinner too.
Maybe that is it. My mechanical oil pressure gauge does read lower when
the oil level get low. Every time. I can look at it and know if I will
be down a liter. Could be it allows the engine to run hotter??
Don't really know.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
> weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
> lower pressure driving on the highway?
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> > oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> >> void the engine warranty?
> >>
> >> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> >> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> >> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
> >>
> >> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> >> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
> >>
> >> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> >> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> >> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >>
> >>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
> >>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
> >>>
> >>> Vito wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
> >>>>
> >>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
> >>>> Ford (350C
> >>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
> >>>> was a loud pop
> >>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
> >>>> hydraulic
> >>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
> >>>> of the cup
> >>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
> >>>> (Mobile 1).
> >>>> Not any more.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jerry Bransford
> >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: what oil is recamended for 200k +
Good question. It also appears to burn up or get used faster. When
used it physically 'feels' thinner too.
Maybe that is it. My mechanical oil pressure gauge does read lower when
the oil level get low. Every time. I can look at it and know if I will
be down a liter. Could be it allows the engine to run hotter??
Don't really know.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
> weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
> lower pressure driving on the highway?
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> > oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> >> void the engine warranty?
> >>
> >> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> >> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> >> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
> >>
> >> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> >> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
> >>
> >> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> >> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> >> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >>
> >>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
> >>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
> >>>
> >>> Vito wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
> >>>>
> >>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
> >>>> Ford (350C
> >>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
> >>>> was a loud pop
> >>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
> >>>> hydraulic
> >>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
> >>>> of the cup
> >>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
> >>>> (Mobile 1).
> >>>> Not any more.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jerry Bransford
> >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
used it physically 'feels' thinner too.
Maybe that is it. My mechanical oil pressure gauge does read lower when
the oil level get low. Every time. I can look at it and know if I will
be down a liter. Could be it allows the engine to run hotter??
Don't really know.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> One question Mike... both 5W-30 and 10W-30 are exactly the same 30
> weight viscosity when warmed up so how could the 5W-30 have caused a
> lower pressure driving on the highway?
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> > Mike, my TJ's owners manual specifically includes 5W-30 as a suitable
> > oil for even temperate conditions in addition to the usual 10W-30. :)
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >> I don't understand why you folks would use an oil that technically could
> >> void the engine warranty?
> >>
> >> If the book calls for 10W30, then using 5W30 is just plain asking for
> >> trouble and extra wear due to the thin oil not lubricating or 'staying
> >> in' the gaps between friction surfaces.
> >>
> >> I can see the difference in my mechanical oil pressure gauge when thin
> >> oil is used or my oil gets old and thin.
> >>
> >> I used 5W30 once because I got a 'deal' on it. I very quickly changed
> >> it back to the proper oil because the pressure was over 5 psi lower on
> >> the highway and especially at idle, it dived really low when hot.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> Jerry Bransford wrote:
> >>
> >>> A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
> >>> long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
> >>>
> >>> Vito wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "jeepney driver via CarKB.com" <u17884@uwe> wrote
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm spookey of 5w-30 in anything but sub-zero weather.
> >>>>
> >>>> Returning from Long Beach to San Diego one hot afternoon I parked my
> >>>> Ford (350C
> >>>> motor) for the night. The next AM it turned over a rev then there
> >>>> was a loud pop
> >>>> and it began running on 6 cylinders. Investigation showed that two
> >>>> hydraulic
> >>>> lifters had collapsed over night allowing the push rods to come out
> >>>> of the cup
> >>>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic
> >>>> (Mobile 1).
> >>>> Not any more.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jerry Bransford
> >>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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Re: what oil is recamended for 200k +
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>
>>>i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic (Mobile 1).
>> Not any more.
>thank you everyone for the info. the reason i was asking was because i started to use mobil 5w-30 syenthetic three to four oil changes ago and now i hear a clicking sound at start up and then when it warms up it goes away. the weather out here in san diego in the winter about 43 deg and in the summer it gets about 95 deg. my budy told me it would be better to keep it at synthetic and go back to 10w-30. he also told me it would be good to use "lucas" oil engine treatment. i asked him whats the diffrence from royal purple or red line. can someone help i don't want to blow my motor and i would love to get the fuull potentual out of my jeep thanks again
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>A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>
>>>i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic (Mobile 1).
>> Not any more.
>thank you everyone for the info. the reason i was asking was because i started to use mobil 5w-30 syenthetic three to four oil changes ago and now i hear a clicking sound at start up and then when it warms up it goes away. the weather out here in san diego in the winter about 43 deg and in the summer it gets about 95 deg. my budy told me it would be better to keep it at synthetic and go back to 10w-30. he also told me it would be good to use "lucas" oil engine treatment. i asked him whats the diffrence from royal purple or red line. can someone help i don't want to blow my motor and i would love to get the fuull potentual out of my jeep thanks again
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Re: what oil is recamended for 200k +
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>
>>>i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic (Mobile 1).
>> Not any more.
>thank you everyone for the info. the reason i was asking was because i started to use mobil 5w-30 syenthetic three to four oil changes ago and now i hear a clicking sound at start up and then when it warms up it goes away. the weather out here in san diego in the winter about 43 deg and in the summer it gets about 95 deg. my budy told me it would be better to keep it at synthetic and go back to 10w-30. he also told me it would be good to use "lucas" oil engine treatment. i asked him whats the diffrence from royal purple or red line. can someone help i don't want to blow my motor and i would love to get the fuull potentual out of my jeep thanks again
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>A long talk with a Mobil Oil engineer at a trade show cured a similar
>long-standing fear I had of 5W-30.
>
>>>i'm using mobil 5w-30 synthetic oil .....
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>> when the motor was cranked. Like you I was using 5w-30 synthetic (Mobile 1).
>> Not any more.
>thank you everyone for the info. the reason i was asking was because i started to use mobil 5w-30 syenthetic three to four oil changes ago and now i hear a clicking sound at start up and then when it warms up it goes away. the weather out here in san diego in the winter about 43 deg and in the summer it gets about 95 deg. my budy told me it would be better to keep it at synthetic and go back to 10w-30. he also told me it would be good to use "lucas" oil engine treatment. i asked him whats the diffrence from royal purple or red line. can someone help i don't want to blow my motor and i would love to get the fuull potentual out of my jeep thanks again
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