Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft
lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in
and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...

The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was
actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems
to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the
clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the
shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).

Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!

Eric

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>

 

Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft
lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in
and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...

The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was
actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems
to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the
clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the
shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).

Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!

Eric

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>

 

Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft
lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in
and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...

The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was
actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems
to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the
clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the
shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).

Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!

Eric

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>

 

If the slave won't bleed, it is bad.

You can curse it, put it in 10 times, pump it a million times and it
still will be a bad slave cylinder.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft
> lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in
> and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...
>
> The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was
> actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems
> to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the
> clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the
> shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).
>
> Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> > right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> > line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> > and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> > STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> > engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> > roll. Hmmm...
> >
> > Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> > has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> > in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> > slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> > few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> > Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> > I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
> >
> > So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> > it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> > working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> > pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> > change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> > was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> > to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> > working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
> >
> > What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> > bleed... HELP!!!
> >
> > Eric
> >

 

If the slave won't bleed, it is bad.

You can curse it, put it in 10 times, pump it a million times and it
still will be a bad slave cylinder.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft
> lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in
> and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...
>
> The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was
> actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems
> to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the
> clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the
> shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).
>
> Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> > right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> > line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> > and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> > STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> > engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> > roll. Hmmm...
> >
> > Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> > has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> > in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> > slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> > few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> > Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> > I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
> >
> > So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> > it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> > working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> > pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> > change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> > was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> > to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> > working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
> >
> > What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> > bleed... HELP!!!
> >
> > Eric
> >

 

If the slave won't bleed, it is bad.

You can curse it, put it in 10 times, pump it a million times and it
still will be a bad slave cylinder.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft
> lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in
> and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...
>
> The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was
> actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems
> to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the
> clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the
> shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).
>
> Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> > right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> > line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> > and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> > STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> > engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> > roll. Hmmm...
> >
> > Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> > has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> > in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> > slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> > few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> > Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> > I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
> >
> > So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> > it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> > working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> > pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> > change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> > was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> > to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> > working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
> >
> > What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> > bleed... HELP!!!
> >
> > Eric
> >

 

If the slave won't bleed, it is bad.

You can curse it, put it in 10 times, pump it a million times and it
still will be a bad slave cylinder.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Eric wrote:
>
> Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft
> lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in
> and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...
>
> The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was
> actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems
> to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the
> clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the
> shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).
>
> Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!
>
> Eric
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> > right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> > line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> > and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> > STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> > engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> > roll. Hmmm...
> >
> > Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> > has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> > in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> > slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> > few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> > Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> > I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
> >
> > So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> > it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> > working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> > pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> > change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> > was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> > to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> > working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
> >
> > What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> > bleed... HELP!!!
> >
> > Eric
> >

 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...

....

> So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was in the
> master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the slave
> (though having it out did nothing) and off I went.

The way I bleed a hydraulic system, you have to have two
people (or use a vacuum pump!). You *don't* take the
screw out all the way... it's actually a valve nipple, like
a brake cylinder. Open the bleeder screw, have someone
push the pedal all the way down, close the bleeder screw,
have the pedal come up... lather, rinse, repeat, until there's
fluid coming out of the bleeder screw. The idea is to keep
air from sucking back into the cylinder/line when the pedal
comes up... you pump the fluid in and the air out, using the
bleeder screw as a valve.

Until you bleed it properly, you'll continue to have problems
with it.
__
Steve
..

 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...

....

> So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was in the
> master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the slave
> (though having it out did nothing) and off I went.

The way I bleed a hydraulic system, you have to have two
people (or use a vacuum pump!). You *don't* take the
screw out all the way... it's actually a valve nipple, like
a brake cylinder. Open the bleeder screw, have someone
push the pedal all the way down, close the bleeder screw,
have the pedal come up... lather, rinse, repeat, until there's
fluid coming out of the bleeder screw. The idea is to keep
air from sucking back into the cylinder/line when the pedal
comes up... you pump the fluid in and the air out, using the
bleeder screw as a valve.

Until you bleed it properly, you'll continue to have problems
with it.
__
Steve
..

 

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...

....

> So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was in the
> master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the slave
> (though having it out did nothing) and off I went.

The way I bleed a hydraulic system, you have to have two
people (or use a vacuum pump!). You *don't* take the
screw out all the way... it's actually a valve nipple, like
a brake cylinder. Open the bleeder screw, have someone
push the pedal all the way down, close the bleeder screw,
have the pedal come up... lather, rinse, repeat, until there's
fluid coming out of the bleeder screw. The idea is to keep
air from sucking back into the cylinder/line when the pedal
comes up... you pump the fluid in and the air out, using the
bleeder screw as a valve.

Until you bleed it properly, you'll continue to have problems
with it.
__
Steve
..