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Eric 05-27-2005 10:36 PM

What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was engaging
the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and roll. Hmmm...

Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever has
in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was in the
master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the slave
(though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every few
miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good. Got
onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY! I
pumped it a LOT and it came back.

So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When it
wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it was
back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel to
the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave working.
It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.

What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
bleed... HELP!!!

Eric



Eric 05-27-2005 10:39 PM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
Just found this online... guess I need a new slave.. @#$@#$%%@#$
http://www.quadratec.com/pdf/slave_cylinder.pdf

Question: Can I remove this slave and be able to put it back now that the
side straps have been cut???

Eric

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>




Eric 05-27-2005 10:39 PM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
Just found this online... guess I need a new slave.. @#$@#$%%@#$
http://www.quadratec.com/pdf/slave_cylinder.pdf

Question: Can I remove this slave and be able to put it back now that the
side straps have been cut???

Eric

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>




Eric 05-27-2005 10:39 PM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
Just found this online... guess I need a new slave.. @#$@#$%%@#$
http://www.quadratec.com/pdf/slave_cylinder.pdf

Question: Can I remove this slave and be able to put it back now that the
side straps have been cut???

Eric

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>




Eric 05-27-2005 10:39 PM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
Just found this online... guess I need a new slave.. @#$@#$%%@#$
http://www.quadratec.com/pdf/slave_cylinder.pdf

Question: Can I remove this slave and be able to put it back now that the
side straps have been cut???

Eric

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>




Eric 05-27-2005 10:55 PM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
So can I remove the slave and get it back in WITHOUT the straps that kept
the shaft pulled back????

Eric
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>




Eric 05-27-2005 10:55 PM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
So can I remove the slave and get it back in WITHOUT the straps that kept
the shaft pulled back????

Eric
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>




Eric 05-27-2005 10:55 PM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
So can I remove the slave and get it back in WITHOUT the straps that kept
the shaft pulled back????

Eric
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>




Eric 05-27-2005 10:55 PM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again)
 
So can I remove the slave and get it back in WITHOUT the straps that kept
the shaft pulled back????

Eric
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>




Eric 05-28-2005 12:22 AM

Re: What now?? (Clutch slave again) UPDATE
 
Took the slave out and followed the directions. Although getting the shaft
lined back up with the fork on the clutch took some finesse, it's back in
and smoother. If I'd only done that the first time...

The mechanical sound is there, but different. Guess the first sound was
actually two sounds together. Now the click, clunk, grind, whatever, seems
to be coming from inside the tranny itself. Seems to be related to the
clutch or release fork. It's not the slave making the noise (unless the
shaft is binding against something, but I can't imagine what).

Is my clutch about to go? Thoughts? Thanks!

Eric

"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:mOQle.6050$PR6.5303@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Ok, got the clutch slave in and installed it. Something just wasn't
> right -- I couldn't get the fluid to flow from the master cyl through the
> line and come out of the bleeder on the slave. Kept pushing the clutch in
> and out until I had worked my way through 1.5 master cyl's worth of fluid.
> STILL, nothing coming out of the slave. However, now the slave was
> engaging the clutch. I could have it in gear, push in the clutch, and
> roll. Hmmm...
>
> Worked it some more, and the clutch felt like new. Better than it ever
> has in the past two years. So, I ensured the proper amount of fluid was
> in the master, put the grommet in, put the bleeder screw back into the
> slave (though having it out did nothing) and off I went. I stopped every
> few miles, and nothing would change. Clutch was good, and fluid was good.
> Got onto the highway and 5 minutes later I didn't have a clutch. SCARY!
> I pumped it a LOT and it came back.
>
> So, in town, I had a perfectly normal clutch (stop and go driving). When
> it wasn't used, it wouldn't work. So I got it to the point of almost not
> working (clutch pedal would go almost to the floor before working) and
> pulled over to look in the master cyl. Nothing wrong. No bubbles, no
> change in fluid level, nothing. Pumped the clutch once or twice, and it
> was back to normal. Get home, in the garage, and notice a mechanical feel
> to the pedal. Shut off the TJ, and sure enough, I can hear the slave
> working. It... grinds.. when the pedal is almost to the floor.
>
> What the heck?? Did I get a bad part?!? I thought it was odd it wouldn't
> bleed... HELP!!!
>
> Eric
>





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