What are my likely sources of error?
#11
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
Ahh, that actually makes sense now. One of the guys along the trail asked if
I had any WD40 so he could try something. Unfortunately I never thought to
bring any. Lesson learned. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again guys.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:417D00B4.8FBA0B03@sympatico.ca...
> I will second that.
>
> Condensation is an issue when the hot cap hits cold water. My CJ7 will
> die like that. All it takes is a shot of WD40 under the cap to 'dry' it
> out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Water inside the distributor cap.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
I had any WD40 so he could try something. Unfortunately I never thought to
bring any. Lesson learned. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again guys.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:417D00B4.8FBA0B03@sympatico.ca...
> I will second that.
>
> Condensation is an issue when the hot cap hits cold water. My CJ7 will
> die like that. All it takes is a shot of WD40 under the cap to 'dry' it
> out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Water inside the distributor cap.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
#12
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
Ahh, that actually makes sense now. One of the guys along the trail asked if
I had any WD40 so he could try something. Unfortunately I never thought to
bring any. Lesson learned. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again guys.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:417D00B4.8FBA0B03@sympatico.ca...
> I will second that.
>
> Condensation is an issue when the hot cap hits cold water. My CJ7 will
> die like that. All it takes is a shot of WD40 under the cap to 'dry' it
> out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Water inside the distributor cap.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
I had any WD40 so he could try something. Unfortunately I never thought to
bring any. Lesson learned. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again guys.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:417D00B4.8FBA0B03@sympatico.ca...
> I will second that.
>
> Condensation is an issue when the hot cap hits cold water. My CJ7 will
> die like that. All it takes is a shot of WD40 under the cap to 'dry' it
> out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Water inside the distributor cap.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
#13
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
Ahh, that actually makes sense now. One of the guys along the trail asked if
I had any WD40 so he could try something. Unfortunately I never thought to
bring any. Lesson learned. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again guys.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:417D00B4.8FBA0B03@sympatico.ca...
> I will second that.
>
> Condensation is an issue when the hot cap hits cold water. My CJ7 will
> die like that. All it takes is a shot of WD40 under the cap to 'dry' it
> out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Water inside the distributor cap.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
I had any WD40 so he could try something. Unfortunately I never thought to
bring any. Lesson learned. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks again guys.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:417D00B4.8FBA0B03@sympatico.ca...
> I will second that.
>
> Condensation is an issue when the hot cap hits cold water. My CJ7 will
> die like that. All it takes is a shot of WD40 under the cap to 'dry' it
> out.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Water inside the distributor cap.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
#14
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
The distributor is wet. Spray the inside with WD40, then wipe it with a
paper towel.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
paper towel.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
#15
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
The distributor is wet. Spray the inside with WD40, then wipe it with a
paper towel.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
paper towel.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
#16
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
The distributor is wet. Spray the inside with WD40, then wipe it with a
paper towel.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
paper towel.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
#17
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
OK, now I'm getting worried. I cleaned the dist cap/rotor ...nuttin. So
today I replaced the cap & rotor, the plug wires, and the plugs (NGK's).
Same thing. The orientation and firing order is correct. It's getting fuel
....well ...I can sure as hell smell the fuel, so I assume it is. It will
sorta start and then sputter a bit and either backfire or die. The ONLY
thing that I have left to try is this: I took the intake cover off to check
it again and the big black wire that goes into the top of the engine was out
(I'm guessing air intake to engine?) ...now it was either out the whole time
....or I pulled it out (which is likely, because it doesn't sit in there
*too* well. However, my shitty battery is toast again so it's on the charger
tonite and I can't test it again until tomorrow. But ...I'm getting a little
worried now. I'm kinda outta ideas as to what could be wrong. Also, the plug
on cylinder #2 was wet (the threads). Am I looking at an engine job here?
Anything else I can test/eliminate/replace?
Please save me! Thanks!
griffin
'85 CJ-7 ...RIP.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
today I replaced the cap & rotor, the plug wires, and the plugs (NGK's).
Same thing. The orientation and firing order is correct. It's getting fuel
....well ...I can sure as hell smell the fuel, so I assume it is. It will
sorta start and then sputter a bit and either backfire or die. The ONLY
thing that I have left to try is this: I took the intake cover off to check
it again and the big black wire that goes into the top of the engine was out
(I'm guessing air intake to engine?) ...now it was either out the whole time
....or I pulled it out (which is likely, because it doesn't sit in there
*too* well. However, my shitty battery is toast again so it's on the charger
tonite and I can't test it again until tomorrow. But ...I'm getting a little
worried now. I'm kinda outta ideas as to what could be wrong. Also, the plug
on cylinder #2 was wet (the threads). Am I looking at an engine job here?
Anything else I can test/eliminate/replace?
Please save me! Thanks!
griffin
'85 CJ-7 ...RIP.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
#18
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
OK, now I'm getting worried. I cleaned the dist cap/rotor ...nuttin. So
today I replaced the cap & rotor, the plug wires, and the plugs (NGK's).
Same thing. The orientation and firing order is correct. It's getting fuel
....well ...I can sure as hell smell the fuel, so I assume it is. It will
sorta start and then sputter a bit and either backfire or die. The ONLY
thing that I have left to try is this: I took the intake cover off to check
it again and the big black wire that goes into the top of the engine was out
(I'm guessing air intake to engine?) ...now it was either out the whole time
....or I pulled it out (which is likely, because it doesn't sit in there
*too* well. However, my shitty battery is toast again so it's on the charger
tonite and I can't test it again until tomorrow. But ...I'm getting a little
worried now. I'm kinda outta ideas as to what could be wrong. Also, the plug
on cylinder #2 was wet (the threads). Am I looking at an engine job here?
Anything else I can test/eliminate/replace?
Please save me! Thanks!
griffin
'85 CJ-7 ...RIP.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
today I replaced the cap & rotor, the plug wires, and the plugs (NGK's).
Same thing. The orientation and firing order is correct. It's getting fuel
....well ...I can sure as hell smell the fuel, so I assume it is. It will
sorta start and then sputter a bit and either backfire or die. The ONLY
thing that I have left to try is this: I took the intake cover off to check
it again and the big black wire that goes into the top of the engine was out
(I'm guessing air intake to engine?) ...now it was either out the whole time
....or I pulled it out (which is likely, because it doesn't sit in there
*too* well. However, my shitty battery is toast again so it's on the charger
tonite and I can't test it again until tomorrow. But ...I'm getting a little
worried now. I'm kinda outta ideas as to what could be wrong. Also, the plug
on cylinder #2 was wet (the threads). Am I looking at an engine job here?
Anything else I can test/eliminate/replace?
Please save me! Thanks!
griffin
'85 CJ-7 ...RIP.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
#19
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
OK, now I'm getting worried. I cleaned the dist cap/rotor ...nuttin. So
today I replaced the cap & rotor, the plug wires, and the plugs (NGK's).
Same thing. The orientation and firing order is correct. It's getting fuel
....well ...I can sure as hell smell the fuel, so I assume it is. It will
sorta start and then sputter a bit and either backfire or die. The ONLY
thing that I have left to try is this: I took the intake cover off to check
it again and the big black wire that goes into the top of the engine was out
(I'm guessing air intake to engine?) ...now it was either out the whole time
....or I pulled it out (which is likely, because it doesn't sit in there
*too* well. However, my shitty battery is toast again so it's on the charger
tonite and I can't test it again until tomorrow. But ...I'm getting a little
worried now. I'm kinda outta ideas as to what could be wrong. Also, the plug
on cylinder #2 was wet (the threads). Am I looking at an engine job here?
Anything else I can test/eliminate/replace?
Please save me! Thanks!
griffin
'85 CJ-7 ...RIP.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
today I replaced the cap & rotor, the plug wires, and the plugs (NGK's).
Same thing. The orientation and firing order is correct. It's getting fuel
....well ...I can sure as hell smell the fuel, so I assume it is. It will
sorta start and then sputter a bit and either backfire or die. The ONLY
thing that I have left to try is this: I took the intake cover off to check
it again and the big black wire that goes into the top of the engine was out
(I'm guessing air intake to engine?) ...now it was either out the whole time
....or I pulled it out (which is likely, because it doesn't sit in there
*too* well. However, my shitty battery is toast again so it's on the charger
tonite and I can't test it again until tomorrow. But ...I'm getting a little
worried now. I'm kinda outta ideas as to what could be wrong. Also, the plug
on cylinder #2 was wet (the threads). Am I looking at an engine job here?
Anything else I can test/eliminate/replace?
Please save me! Thanks!
griffin
'85 CJ-7 ...RIP.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:540fd.16060$nl.4536@pd7tw3no...
> So I went out in the perfect weather for offroading today (pure rainstorm)
> and hit one mud hole and then go to climb a small gradient and my Jeep
> sputters and then dies. I've recently replaced the battery because my old
> one was toast and this new one is just a temporary cheapy that doesn't
crank
> too many amps. I figure it must be the battery, but it seemed to be fine,
> and after putting jumpers onto another Jeep, it still wouldn't start. It
was
> turning over but wouldn't catch. We checked the air filter and the carb
was
> getting fuel. The plugs were dry. All wiring seemed to be hooked up. The
> accessories all worked.
>
> Next idea was to test the plugs. We pulled one and it sparked. Then we
> checked the distributor ends but there was nothing there. No spark at all.
> One of the guys I was with suggested it might be the electrical solenoid.
Is
> this correct? I'd rather have some idea what to replace/fix cuz after
> checking the stuff I mentioned above, I was all outta ideas. When I was
> getting towed home, we decided to try and jumpstart it by dropping the
> clutch from 2nd while moving. The Jeep turned over and sputtered a bunch
of
> times and then backfired.
>
> What are your guys thoughts?
> It's a 1985 Jeep CJ7 2.5L 4cyl carb.
>
> Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 Jeep CJ7
>
>
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Re: What are my likely sources of error?
It'll almost starts, sort of sounds like your timing chain jumped a
tooth. If you turn the distributor a little counter-clockwise, retarding
the spark and it starts, confirms it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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griffin wrote:
>
> OK, now I'm getting worried. I cleaned the dist cap/rotor ...nuttin. So
> today I replaced the cap & rotor, the plug wires, and the plugs (NGK's).
> Same thing. The orientation and firing order is correct. It's getting fuel
> ...well ...I can sure as hell smell the fuel, so I assume it is. It will
> sorta start and then sputter a bit and either backfire or die. The ONLY
> thing that I have left to try is this: I took the intake cover off to check
> it again and the big black wire that goes into the top of the engine was out
> (I'm guessing air intake to engine?) ...now it was either out the whole time
> ...or I pulled it out (which is likely, because it doesn't sit in there
> *too* well. However, my shitty battery is toast again so it's on the charger
> tonite and I can't test it again until tomorrow. But ...I'm getting a little
> worried now. I'm kinda outta ideas as to what could be wrong. Also, the plug
> on cylinder #2 was wet (the threads). Am I looking at an engine job here?
> Anything else I can test/eliminate/replace?
>
> Please save me! Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 CJ-7 ...RIP.
tooth. If you turn the distributor a little counter-clockwise, retarding
the spark and it starts, confirms it.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> OK, now I'm getting worried. I cleaned the dist cap/rotor ...nuttin. So
> today I replaced the cap & rotor, the plug wires, and the plugs (NGK's).
> Same thing. The orientation and firing order is correct. It's getting fuel
> ...well ...I can sure as hell smell the fuel, so I assume it is. It will
> sorta start and then sputter a bit and either backfire or die. The ONLY
> thing that I have left to try is this: I took the intake cover off to check
> it again and the big black wire that goes into the top of the engine was out
> (I'm guessing air intake to engine?) ...now it was either out the whole time
> ...or I pulled it out (which is likely, because it doesn't sit in there
> *too* well. However, my shitty battery is toast again so it's on the charger
> tonite and I can't test it again until tomorrow. But ...I'm getting a little
> worried now. I'm kinda outta ideas as to what could be wrong. Also, the plug
> on cylinder #2 was wet (the threads). Am I looking at an engine job here?
> Anything else I can test/eliminate/replace?
>
> Please save me! Thanks!
>
> griffin
> '85 CJ-7 ...RIP.