Will Honea

You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
side of the rock, don't you? <g>.

How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
stuuf they were showing on TV?

On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:

> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
> >>
> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
> >>
> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>William Oliveri wrote:
> >>>
> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >>>
> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >>>
> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >>>
> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> >>> my CJ7.
> >>>
> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >>>
> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Bill
>


--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>

jbjeep

So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
away from the wind so that should help a little.

Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.




On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:

>>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
>>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
>>
>>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
>>stuuf they were showing on TV?
>>
>>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>>> >>
>>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
>>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
>>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>>> >>
>>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
>>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >>Mike
>>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> >>
>>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
>>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
>>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
>>> >>> my CJ7.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
>>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
>>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
>>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
>>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
>>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bill
>>>

jbjeep

So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
away from the wind so that should help a little.

Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.




On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:

>>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
>>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
>>
>>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
>>stuuf they were showing on TV?
>>
>>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>>> >>
>>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
>>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
>>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>>> >>
>>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
>>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >>Mike
>>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> >>
>>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
>>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
>>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
>>> >>> my CJ7.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
>>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
>>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
>>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
>>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
>>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bill
>>>

jbjeep

So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
away from the wind so that should help a little.

Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.




On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:

>>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
>>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
>>
>>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
>>stuuf they were showing on TV?
>>
>>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>>> >>
>>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
>>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
>>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>>> >>
>>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
>>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >>Mike
>>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> >>
>>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
>>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>>> >>>
>>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
>>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
>>> >>> my CJ7.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
>>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
>>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
>>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
>>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
>>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bill
>>>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Imagine now cold it would be without this global warming. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
> I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
> used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
> get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
> The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
> keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
> this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
> since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
> away from the wind so that should help a little.
>
> Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
> are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
> the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
> to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
> goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
> operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
> operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
> in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
> today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
> out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
> was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
> whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
> bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
> here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
> 74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.
>
> On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>
> >>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
> >>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
> >>
> >>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
> >>stuuf they were showing on TV?
> >>
> >>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> >>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> >>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
> >>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Mike
> >>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> >>
> >>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> >>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> >>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> >>> >>> my CJ7.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> >>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> >>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> >>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> >>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> >>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Thanks,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Bill
> >>>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Imagine now cold it would be without this global warming. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
> I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
> used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
> get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
> The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
> keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
> this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
> since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
> away from the wind so that should help a little.
>
> Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
> are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
> the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
> to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
> goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
> operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
> operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
> in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
> today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
> out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
> was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
> whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
> bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
> here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
> 74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.
>
> On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>
> >>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
> >>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
> >>
> >>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
> >>stuuf they were showing on TV?
> >>
> >>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> >>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> >>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
> >>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Mike
> >>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> >>
> >>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> >>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> >>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> >>> >>> my CJ7.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> >>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> >>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> >>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> >>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> >>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Thanks,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Bill
> >>>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Imagine now cold it would be without this global warming. ;-)
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jbjeep wrote:
>
> So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
> I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
> used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
> get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
> The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
> keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
> this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
> since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
> away from the wind so that should help a little.
>
> Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
> are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
> the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
> to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
> goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
> operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
> operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
> in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
> today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
> out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
> was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
> whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
> bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
> here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
> 74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.
>
> On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>
> >>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
> >>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
> >>
> >>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
> >>stuuf they were showing on TV?
> >>
> >>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> >>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> >>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
> >>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Mike
> >>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> >>
> >>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> >>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> >>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> >>> >>> my CJ7.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> >>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> >>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> >>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> >>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> >>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Thanks,
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Bill
> >>>

jbjeep

Actually, what worries me is if we get a "pineapple express" coming thru - they say
it will be worse than the floods of 1964...which made the 1996 floods look like
somebody just dropped a bucket.



On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:50:02 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:

>> Imagine now cold it would be without this global warming. ;-)
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
>>> I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
>>> used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
>>> get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
>>> The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
>>> keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
>>> this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
>>> since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
>>> away from the wind so that should help a little.
>>>
>>> Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
>>> are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
>>> the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
>>> to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
>>> goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
>>> operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
>>> operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
>>> in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
>>> today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
>>> out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
>>> was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
>>> whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
>>> bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
>>> here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
>>> 74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.
>>>
>>> On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
>>> >>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
>>> >>
>>> >>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
>>> >>stuuf they were showing on TV?
>>> >>
>>> >>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
>>> >>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
>>> >>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
>>> >>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Mike
>>> >>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> >>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
>>> >>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
>>> >>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
>>> >>> >>> my CJ7.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
>>> >>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
>>> >>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
>>> >>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
>>> >>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
>>> >>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Bill
>>> >>>

jbjeep

Actually, what worries me is if we get a "pineapple express" coming thru - they say
it will be worse than the floods of 1964...which made the 1996 floods look like
somebody just dropped a bucket.



On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:50:02 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:

>> Imagine now cold it would be without this global warming. ;-)
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
>>> I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
>>> used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
>>> get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
>>> The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
>>> keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
>>> this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
>>> since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
>>> away from the wind so that should help a little.
>>>
>>> Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
>>> are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
>>> the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
>>> to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
>>> goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
>>> operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
>>> operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
>>> in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
>>> today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
>>> out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
>>> was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
>>> whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
>>> bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
>>> here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
>>> 74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.
>>>
>>> On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
>>> >>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
>>> >>
>>> >>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
>>> >>stuuf they were showing on TV?
>>> >>
>>> >>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
>>> >>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
>>> >>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
>>> >>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Mike
>>> >>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> >>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
>>> >>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
>>> >>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
>>> >>> >>> my CJ7.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
>>> >>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
>>> >>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
>>> >>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
>>> >>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
>>> >>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Bill
>>> >>>

jbjeep

Actually, what worries me is if we get a "pineapple express" coming thru - they say
it will be worse than the floods of 1964...which made the 1996 floods look like
somebody just dropped a bucket.



On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:50:02 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:

>> Imagine now cold it would be without this global warming. ;-)
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> So far so good on the Jeep. Turns out the winch is dead. They think its electrical.
>>> I suspect either my battery is dead and or the isolator isnt doing its job. Hadnt
>>> used it in a month or two prior to New Years. Once this weather is gone and I can
>>> get into the metro area I have a couple of people willing to troubleshoot it for me.
>>> The drivers door is giving me pains...it just doesnt fit quite right. The door seal
>>> keeps peeling off on the bottom. I am no longer sure how to go about fixing
>>> this...we have adjusted the bottom of the hinge (several times). Its a real pain,
>>> since snow blows into the Jeep and piles on the drivers seat. I parked that side
>>> away from the wind so that should help a little.
>>>
>>> Yep, we are in the mess. Couple of feet of snow, ice on top of it. Freeway and Hwy
>>> are both shut down (thats all we got here, one hwy on the WA side, and one freeway on
>>> the OR side). Work has been closed for 2 and a half days. Yea!!! Now I dont have
>>> to worry about that until Monday...unless of course they call me out of something
>>> goes down, but I sort of doubt that. We only have a handful of people there,
>>> operators who run 24-7, and some garage crew folks to plow the road for the
>>> operators. I could get there with no problem, but there is no reason for me to go
>>> in. I should go outside and get some of the ice off the Jeep and run it up to temp
>>> today, but...I think I may be lazy and wait for tomorrow instead. Yesterday I went
>>> out and visited some neighbors - checking up on them - and walked around a bit. It
>>> was nasty out. We are up to the highest temp we have seen since before New Years...a
>>> whooping 22 degrees today (which beats the hell out of 7 any day). The cold isnt so
>>> bad, its the wet that goes with it. We are not use to seeing single digit temps
>>> here. Oh yea...the wind is just our buddy right now...gusts have been measured up to
>>> 74 mph just down river from here. Sustained winds of 35 mph are common too.
>>>
>>> On 8 Jan 2004 23:21:34 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@codenet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
>>> >>side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
>>> >>
>>> >>How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
>>> >>stuuf they were showing on TV?
>>> >>
>>> >>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
>>> >>> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
>>> >>> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
>>> >>> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>Mike
>>> >>> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> >>> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>William Oliveri wrote:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
>>> >>> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
>>> >>> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
>>> >>> >>> my CJ7.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
>>> >>> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
>>> >>> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
>>> >>> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
>>> >>> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
>>> >>> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> Bill
>>> >>>