What happens on a Roll over
01-08-2004, 01:18 PM
#21
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Re: What happens on a Roll over
My roll cage is essentialy the same as this one. I would like to draw you
attention to the hand holds in the upper corners. I think these hand holds
are potentially dangerous where they are because the hands are exposed to
passing rocks and otheer stuff that will be on the ground if the roof is
ever on the ground too. I would like to see those hand holds come from the
forward bar to the member that connects the forward and the rear bars. The
hand hold that is there is OK for comfort and ease of grabbing for any kind
of normal ride, but if the ride gets wild, the passenger should have another
alternative to hang on to.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:btirnc$7p6v1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Also, what do you think about the support weld (4th picture down)?
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:btirgt$737se$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> > (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >
> > http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >
> > It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was
over
> > the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >
> > Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >
> > I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab
> on
> > my CJ7.
> >
> > Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep.
It
> > seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better
> view
> > of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces
> in
> > the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given
> time
> > (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the
cage
> in
> > the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >
> > Any feedback on this idea?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>
attention to the hand holds in the upper corners. I think these hand holds
are potentially dangerous where they are because the hands are exposed to
passing rocks and otheer stuff that will be on the ground if the roof is
ever on the ground too. I would like to see those hand holds come from the
forward bar to the member that connects the forward and the rear bars. The
hand hold that is there is OK for comfort and ease of grabbing for any kind
of normal ride, but if the ride gets wild, the passenger should have another
alternative to hang on to.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:btirnc$7p6v1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Also, what do you think about the support weld (4th picture down)?
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:btirgt$737se$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> > (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >
> > http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >
> > It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was
over
> > the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >
> > Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >
> > I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab
> on
> > my CJ7.
> >
> > Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep.
It
> > seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better
> view
> > of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces
> in
> > the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given
> time
> > (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the
cage
> in
> > the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >
> > Any feedback on this idea?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>
01-08-2004, 01:18 PM
#22
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Re: What happens on a Roll over
My roll cage is essentialy the same as this one. I would like to draw you
attention to the hand holds in the upper corners. I think these hand holds
are potentially dangerous where they are because the hands are exposed to
passing rocks and otheer stuff that will be on the ground if the roof is
ever on the ground too. I would like to see those hand holds come from the
forward bar to the member that connects the forward and the rear bars. The
hand hold that is there is OK for comfort and ease of grabbing for any kind
of normal ride, but if the ride gets wild, the passenger should have another
alternative to hang on to.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:btirnc$7p6v1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Also, what do you think about the support weld (4th picture down)?
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:btirgt$737se$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> > (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >
> > http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >
> > It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was
over
> > the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >
> > Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >
> > I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab
> on
> > my CJ7.
> >
> > Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep.
It
> > seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better
> view
> > of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces
> in
> > the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given
> time
> > (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the
cage
> in
> > the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >
> > Any feedback on this idea?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>
attention to the hand holds in the upper corners. I think these hand holds
are potentially dangerous where they are because the hands are exposed to
passing rocks and otheer stuff that will be on the ground if the roof is
ever on the ground too. I would like to see those hand holds come from the
forward bar to the member that connects the forward and the rear bars. The
hand hold that is there is OK for comfort and ease of grabbing for any kind
of normal ride, but if the ride gets wild, the passenger should have another
alternative to hang on to.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:btirnc$7p6v1$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Also, what do you think about the support weld (4th picture down)?
>
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:btirgt$737se$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> > (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >
> > http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >
> > It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was
over
> > the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >
> > Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >
> > I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab
> on
> > my CJ7.
> >
> > Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep.
It
> > seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better
> view
> > of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces
> in
> > the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given
> time
> > (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the
cage
> in
> > the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >
> > Any feedback on this idea?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>
01-08-2004, 01:21 PM
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Re: What happens on a Roll over
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FFD9886.E9F716C7@sympatico.ca...
> I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>
> I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> 1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>
> Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
Hey! I resemble that remark. If my friggin' brakes worked, I wouldn't have
nearly as many problems as I have. ;-)
01-08-2004, 01:21 PM
#24
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Re: What happens on a Roll over
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FFD9886.E9F716C7@sympatico.ca...
> I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>
> I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> 1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>
> Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
Hey! I resemble that remark. If my friggin' brakes worked, I wouldn't have
nearly as many problems as I have. ;-)
01-08-2004, 01:21 PM
#25
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Re: What happens on a Roll over
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FFD9886.E9F716C7@sympatico.ca...
> I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
>
> I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> 1/2" sideways on the mounts.
>
> Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
Hey! I resemble that remark. If my friggin' brakes worked, I wouldn't have
nearly as many problems as I have. ;-)
01-08-2004, 01:40 PM
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Re: What happens on a Roll over
http://www.stu-offroad.com/rollcage/roll-4.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>
> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>
> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>
> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>
> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> my CJ7.
>
> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>
> Any feedback on this idea?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>
> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>
> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>
> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>
> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> my CJ7.
>
> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>
> Any feedback on this idea?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-08-2004, 01:40 PM
#27
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Re: What happens on a Roll over
http://www.stu-offroad.com/rollcage/roll-4.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>
> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>
> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>
> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>
> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> my CJ7.
>
> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>
> Any feedback on this idea?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>
> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>
> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>
> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>
> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> my CJ7.
>
> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>
> Any feedback on this idea?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-08-2004, 01:40 PM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: What happens on a Roll over
http://www.stu-offroad.com/rollcage/roll-4.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>
> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>
> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>
> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>
> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> my CJ7.
>
> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>
> Any feedback on this idea?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
William Oliveri wrote:
>
> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
>
> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
>
> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
>
> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
>
> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> my CJ7.
>
> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
>
> Any feedback on this idea?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
01-08-2004, 06:21 PM
#29
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Re: What happens on a Roll over
You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
stuuf they were showing on TV?
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
> >>
> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
> >>
> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>William Oliveri wrote:
> >>>
> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >>>
> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >>>
> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >>>
> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> >>> my CJ7.
> >>>
> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >>>
> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Bill
>
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
stuuf they were showing on TV?
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
> >>
> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
> >>
> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>William Oliveri wrote:
> >>>
> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >>>
> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >>>
> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >>>
> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> >>> my CJ7.
> >>>
> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >>>
> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Bill
>
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
01-08-2004, 06:21 PM
#30
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Posts: n/a
Re: What happens on a Roll over
You know he wasn't refering to people who dribble the Jeep down the
side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
stuuf they were showing on TV?
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
> >>
> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
> >>
> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>William Oliveri wrote:
> >>>
> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >>>
> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >>>
> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >>>
> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> >>> my CJ7.
> >>>
> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >>>
> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Bill
>
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
side of the rock, don't you? <g>.
How is the rebuild holding out, BTW? Are you in that nasty slick
stuuf they were showing on TV?
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004 18:09:14 UTC jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
> Gee, thanks Mike. ;-)
>
>
>
> On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 12:51:02 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >>I like the one for the CJ5 at the bottom of the page better.
> >>
> >>I have had my CJ7 over on it's side twice and only cracked the seam
> >>where the firewall meets the floor on my 'glass body and knock the body
> >>1/2" sideways on the mounts.
> >>
> >>Then again I don't do radical rock climbs like those western USA fools,
> >>we just slide off the trails on ice or snow up here... ;-)
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >>William Oliveri wrote:
> >>>
> >>> While looking at cage options I was thinking about what a cage protects
> >>> (besides your life). As I was looking at this page:
> >>>
> >>> http://rokfrog.rockcrawler.com/photo2.html
> >>>
> >>> It looks to me the windshield would be busted up if the roll over was over
> >>> the front. Yes? Has anyone had this happen to them?
> >>>
> >>> Also, in that first pic, would the back roll bar really be needed?
> >>>
> >>> I'm thinking about this kind of option as I want to put the CJ8 half cab on
> >>> my CJ7.
> >>>
> >>> Another thing. Back in the "days" we used to go hunting in the jeep. It
> >>> seems we always liked to stand up in the passenger seat to get a better view
> >>> of what we were going over. Therefore I would think I would like spaces in
> >>> the roll cage to allow for driver or passenger to stand up at any given time
> >>> (not necessarily during rock crawling but at other times). With the cage in
> >>> the pic it would be difficult to stand up.
> >>>
> >>> Any feedback on this idea?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Bill
>
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
