L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

It was sad, he died in a freak accident, coming to a complete stop
tying to avoid a drunk coming across to get him, according to his new
bride. I liked him, too. http://www.----------.com/ftheword.wav
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> A good comedian, but I prefered Sam Kinison -- nothing was sacrosanct, he
> believe in insulting *everyone*...
>
> "I don't worry about terrorism. I was married for two years."
>
> "You see this stuff here? This is sand. You know what it's going to be 100
> years from now? It's gonna be SAND!! Nothing grows in this ----! You live
> in a ------- desert."

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

It was sad, he died in a freak accident, coming to a complete stop
tying to avoid a drunk coming across to get him, according to his new
bride. I liked him, too. http://www.----------.com/ftheword.wav
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> A good comedian, but I prefered Sam Kinison -- nothing was sacrosanct, he
> believe in insulting *everyone*...
>
> "I don't worry about terrorism. I was married for two years."
>
> "You see this stuff here? This is sand. You know what it's going to be 100
> years from now? It's gonna be SAND!! Nothing grows in this ----! You live
> in a ------- desert."

SneakyP

"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in
news:KeL2g.4505$oW1.557@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

>
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote
>
>:
>: Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
>: scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and
>: he has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint.
>: It has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate
>: is the ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
>
> I'm not fesharing your opinion here JD.
> People can lose admiration and respect for someone, no matter what
> their knowledge base is, if they consistantly go out and bring trouble
> home with them. A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other
> sources easily enough without all of the hooey that is going along
> with it lately.
>
> In this case, Bill made some waves in another group, or groups and
> then rather than quash it, he encouraged it to escalate and now it has
> landed here because he is so hammerheaded he will not let it go.
>
> I say he needs to stop it.
> I don't admire him for this sort of thing.
>
> The folks in here giving him ego strokes for his actions are not
> helping much either. I think Bill ---- in his own mess kit.
>
>
>: I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist
>: on ------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's
>: example.
>
> They wouldn't have been angry if Bill would have stopped poking
> through the bars with a stick.
>

From the looks of reading into this thread some more, it appears my
assesment of the *poking* was instigated by this "Bill" individual?
I'm all for some well deserved prods but this is causing havoc across
many, many newsgroups. Once you tease a bear, or hoard of bears, don't
expect it/them to stop at your newsgroup door.



Off for some more "ahem" reading....




--
SneakyP
To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng.

Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it
down :0)

SneakyP

"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in
news:KeL2g.4505$oW1.557@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

>
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote
>
>:
>: Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
>: scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and
>: he has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint.
>: It has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate
>: is the ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
>
> I'm not fesharing your opinion here JD.
> People can lose admiration and respect for someone, no matter what
> their knowledge base is, if they consistantly go out and bring trouble
> home with them. A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other
> sources easily enough without all of the hooey that is going along
> with it lately.
>
> In this case, Bill made some waves in another group, or groups and
> then rather than quash it, he encouraged it to escalate and now it has
> landed here because he is so hammerheaded he will not let it go.
>
> I say he needs to stop it.
> I don't admire him for this sort of thing.
>
> The folks in here giving him ego strokes for his actions are not
> helping much either. I think Bill ---- in his own mess kit.
>
>
>: I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist
>: on ------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's
>: example.
>
> They wouldn't have been angry if Bill would have stopped poking
> through the bars with a stick.
>

From the looks of reading into this thread some more, it appears my
assesment of the *poking* was instigated by this "Bill" individual?
I'm all for some well deserved prods but this is causing havoc across
many, many newsgroups. Once you tease a bear, or hoard of bears, don't
expect it/them to stop at your newsgroup door.



Off for some more "ahem" reading....




--
SneakyP
To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng.

Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it
down :0)

SneakyP

"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in
news:KeL2g.4505$oW1.557@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

>
> "JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote
>
>:
>: Bill is admittedly controversial. But there is more admiration than
>: scorn; he has much knowledge that he is always willing to share, and
>: he has experience that few understand. And I admire his restraint.
>: It has been said that the greatest quality a leader can demonstrate
>: is the ability to ignore hatred. This is here for all to see.
>
> I'm not fesharing your opinion here JD.
> People can lose admiration and respect for someone, no matter what
> their knowledge base is, if they consistantly go out and bring trouble
> home with them. A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other
> sources easily enough without all of the hooey that is going along
> with it lately.
>
> In this case, Bill made some waves in another group, or groups and
> then rather than quash it, he encouraged it to escalate and now it has
> landed here because he is so hammerheaded he will not let it go.
>
> I say he needs to stop it.
> I don't admire him for this sort of thing.
>
> The folks in here giving him ego strokes for his actions are not
> helping much either. I think Bill ---- in his own mess kit.
>
>
>: I don't mind trolls being miserable by themself. But if they insist
>: on ------ing their anger publically, it is wise to follow Bill's
>: example.
>
> They wouldn't have been angry if Bill would have stopped poking
> through the bars with a stick.
>

From the looks of reading into this thread some more, it appears my
assesment of the *poking* was instigated by this "Bill" individual?
I'm all for some well deserved prods but this is causing havoc across
many, many newsgroups. Once you tease a bear, or hoard of bears, don't
expect it/them to stop at your newsgroup door.



Off for some more "ahem" reading....




--
SneakyP
To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng.

Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it
down :0)

Herb Leong

In article <ZRW3g.37575$0Z4.26184@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
Grumman-581 <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
#"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
#news:moomesa-CCF2FC.18382626042006@News-East.newsfeeds.com...
#> Austin, otherwise known as the "Third Coast"
#> Liberal Texas
#
#Yep, Austin is definitely the most liberal place in Texas, but it's still
#probably more conservative than *any* place in Kalifornia...

I would have to disagree. I think that the majority of the counties
in CA are not all that liberal. Note that I did not say the majority
of the population in CA, just the majority of the counties. I think
that Los Angeles county, the San Francisco Bay Area counties, and
Sacramento county pretty much dominate the rest of the state into
submission with their burgeoning populations which are very liberal
and very well organized.

People in the north counties openly want to split off into another
state (Jefferson). They have been pushing for this since before
WW2.

The not-so-liberal areas also have some of the better places open for
jeeping. It seems to me that the really liberal areas don't like off-
road driving and if they have any areas that would be suitable for
jeeping, they close them off or severly limit access. For example, in
the arguably liberal San Francisco Bay Area is Coe Park, which only
allows 4x4s in once a year, while the relatively more conservative
Ukiah area has the huge Cow Mountain OHV recreation area next to it
which is only closed when it's too muddy and for controled burns.

A interesting series of maps is here:
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
If you look at the area for Austin, TX, and the blue areas to the south,
they are a lot bluer than most of the counties in CA.
Keep in mind that this is only mapping the 2004 election and is not a
perfect indicator of conservative vs. liberal, but you can get a general
feeling of who lives where. A better example of a few counties pushing
the others around is Oregon: Portland alone pretty much sent the state
to Kerry.

/herb

Herb Leong

In article <ZRW3g.37575$0Z4.26184@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
Grumman-581 <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
#"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
#news:moomesa-CCF2FC.18382626042006@News-East.newsfeeds.com...
#> Austin, otherwise known as the "Third Coast"
#> Liberal Texas
#
#Yep, Austin is definitely the most liberal place in Texas, but it's still
#probably more conservative than *any* place in Kalifornia...

I would have to disagree. I think that the majority of the counties
in CA are not all that liberal. Note that I did not say the majority
of the population in CA, just the majority of the counties. I think
that Los Angeles county, the San Francisco Bay Area counties, and
Sacramento county pretty much dominate the rest of the state into
submission with their burgeoning populations which are very liberal
and very well organized.

People in the north counties openly want to split off into another
state (Jefferson). They have been pushing for this since before
WW2.

The not-so-liberal areas also have some of the better places open for
jeeping. It seems to me that the really liberal areas don't like off-
road driving and if they have any areas that would be suitable for
jeeping, they close them off or severly limit access. For example, in
the arguably liberal San Francisco Bay Area is Coe Park, which only
allows 4x4s in once a year, while the relatively more conservative
Ukiah area has the huge Cow Mountain OHV recreation area next to it
which is only closed when it's too muddy and for controled burns.

A interesting series of maps is here:
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
If you look at the area for Austin, TX, and the blue areas to the south,
they are a lot bluer than most of the counties in CA.
Keep in mind that this is only mapping the 2004 election and is not a
perfect indicator of conservative vs. liberal, but you can get a general
feeling of who lives where. A better example of a few counties pushing
the others around is Oregon: Portland alone pretty much sent the state
to Kerry.

/herb

Herb Leong

In article <ZRW3g.37575$0Z4.26184@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
Grumman-581 <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote:
#"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
#news:moomesa-CCF2FC.18382626042006@News-East.newsfeeds.com...
#> Austin, otherwise known as the "Third Coast"
#> Liberal Texas
#
#Yep, Austin is definitely the most liberal place in Texas, but it's still
#probably more conservative than *any* place in Kalifornia...

I would have to disagree. I think that the majority of the counties
in CA are not all that liberal. Note that I did not say the majority
of the population in CA, just the majority of the counties. I think
that Los Angeles county, the San Francisco Bay Area counties, and
Sacramento county pretty much dominate the rest of the state into
submission with their burgeoning populations which are very liberal
and very well organized.

People in the north counties openly want to split off into another
state (Jefferson). They have been pushing for this since before
WW2.

The not-so-liberal areas also have some of the better places open for
jeeping. It seems to me that the really liberal areas don't like off-
road driving and if they have any areas that would be suitable for
jeeping, they close them off or severly limit access. For example, in
the arguably liberal San Francisco Bay Area is Coe Park, which only
allows 4x4s in once a year, while the relatively more conservative
Ukiah area has the huge Cow Mountain OHV recreation area next to it
which is only closed when it's too muddy and for controled burns.

A interesting series of maps is here:
http://www.princeton.edu/~rvdb/JAVA/election2004/
If you look at the area for Austin, TX, and the blue areas to the south,
they are a lot bluer than most of the counties in CA.
Keep in mind that this is only mapping the 2004 election and is not a
perfect indicator of conservative vs. liberal, but you can get a general
feeling of who lives where. A better example of a few counties pushing
the others around is Oregon: Portland alone pretty much sent the state
to Kerry.

/herb

twaldron

"...we've got sand too.....but we don't EAT it!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Grumman-581 wrote:
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44504D00.1368EC64@***.net...
>
>> John Belushi?
>
>
> A good comedian, but I prefered Sam Kinison -- nothing was sacrosanct, he
> believe in insulting *everyone*...
>
> "I don't worry about terrorism. I was married for two years."
>
> "You see this stuff here? This is sand. You know what it's going to be 100
> years from now? It's gonna be SAND!! Nothing grows in this ----! You live
> in a ------- desert."
>
>

twaldron

"...we've got sand too.....but we don't EAT it!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Grumman-581 wrote:
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44504D00.1368EC64@***.net...
>
>> John Belushi?
>
>
> A good comedian, but I prefered Sam Kinison -- nothing was sacrosanct, he
> believe in insulting *everyone*...
>
> "I don't worry about terrorism. I was married for two years."
>
> "You see this stuff here? This is sand. You know what it's going to be 100
> years from now? It's gonna be SAND!! Nothing grows in this ----! You live
> in a ------- desert."
>
>