what exactly happened here?
#331
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Re: what exactly happened here?
Oh man, me too!
I was always so relieved to finally ease myself onto the seat without third
degree burns that I would completely forget the branding iron there waiting
for me to flop it across my lap.
Painful memory.
"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:alB3g.63915$F_3.777@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
: I'd forgotten about the seat buckle...OMG! Also, I had a HURST T-handle
: shifter that was metal.....I used to put a red shop rag over it as a
: cover and used the rag to shift for the first 10 mins or so until it
: cooled.
:
: tw
: __________________________________________________ ___________________
: 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
:
: "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
:
: Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
:
: Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
: A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
: capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
: __________________________________________________ ___________________
:
:
: DougW wrote:
: > twaldron did pass the time by typing:
: >
: >>Sitting on vinyl in the Texas summer is like using a jet fueled rocket
: >>for a bun warmer. I go for the cloth!!
: >
: >
: > My old C-10 Chevy had vinal seats. They wern't the problem.
: > It was that nice shiny seat belt buckle! I still have scorch marks. :O
: >
I was always so relieved to finally ease myself onto the seat without third
degree burns that I would completely forget the branding iron there waiting
for me to flop it across my lap.
Painful memory.
"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:alB3g.63915$F_3.777@newssvr29.news.prodigy.ne t...
: I'd forgotten about the seat buckle...OMG! Also, I had a HURST T-handle
: shifter that was metal.....I used to put a red shop rag over it as a
: cover and used the rag to shift for the first 10 mins or so until it
: cooled.
:
: tw
: __________________________________________________ ___________________
: 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
:
: "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
:
: Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
:
: Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
: A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
: capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
: __________________________________________________ ___________________
:
:
: DougW wrote:
: > twaldron did pass the time by typing:
: >
: >>Sitting on vinyl in the Texas summer is like using a jet fueled rocket
: >>for a bun warmer. I go for the cloth!!
: >
: >
: > My old C-10 Chevy had vinal seats. They wern't the problem.
: > It was that nice shiny seat belt buckle! I still have scorch marks. :O
: >
#332
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
This is true, but Google Groups requires one to provide an identity, or at
least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty for abuse
is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges. Now
Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does take some
effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caught abusing
privileges on Google Groups.
On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymous
remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software and figure
out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently post with
impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, then changes in
the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is one possible
result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, for example,
then it is dead for this purpose.
I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place. It is
so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselves
publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that free
speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whatever
socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged to
provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage that they
propagate.
Earle
"admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in message
news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x...
>
> There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet.
> anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, or
> use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc.
>
> This is just the way Usenet works.
> It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness.
>
>
> Jeff DeWitt Wrote:
> > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out posts from
> > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to come
> > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoying
> > their
> > customers.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As
> > far as
> > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
> > with
> > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
> > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
> > have
> > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
> > >
> > > Any clue what to do about them?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net...
> > >
> > >>Hi Josh,
> > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find in
> > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls that would
> > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS -
> > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml
> > >>USENET COMPLAINTS -
> > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html
> > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>
> > >>Josh Piela wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understand
> > that
> > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? Is there
> > any
> > >
> > > way
> > >
> > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this board
> > >
> > > daily
> > >
> > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I miss
> > >
> > > allot
> > >
> > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps. Now
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > vulgarity.
> > >
> > > I
> > >
> > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the deal
> > is
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> admin
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
>
least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty for abuse
is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges. Now
Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does take some
effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caught abusing
privileges on Google Groups.
On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymous
remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software and figure
out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently post with
impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, then changes in
the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is one possible
result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, for example,
then it is dead for this purpose.
I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place. It is
so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselves
publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that free
speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whatever
socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged to
provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage that they
propagate.
Earle
"admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in message
news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x...
>
> There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet.
> anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, or
> use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc.
>
> This is just the way Usenet works.
> It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness.
>
>
> Jeff DeWitt Wrote:
> > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out posts from
> > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to come
> > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoying
> > their
> > customers.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As
> > far as
> > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
> > with
> > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
> > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
> > have
> > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
> > >
> > > Any clue what to do about them?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net...
> > >
> > >>Hi Josh,
> > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find in
> > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls that would
> > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS -
> > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml
> > >>USENET COMPLAINTS -
> > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html
> > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>
> > >>Josh Piela wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understand
> > that
> > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? Is there
> > any
> > >
> > > way
> > >
> > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this board
> > >
> > > daily
> > >
> > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I miss
> > >
> > > allot
> > >
> > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps. Now
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > vulgarity.
> > >
> > > I
> > >
> > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the deal
> > is
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> admin
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
>
#333
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
This is true, but Google Groups requires one to provide an identity, or at
least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty for abuse
is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges. Now
Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does take some
effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caught abusing
privileges on Google Groups.
On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymous
remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software and figure
out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently post with
impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, then changes in
the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is one possible
result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, for example,
then it is dead for this purpose.
I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place. It is
so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselves
publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that free
speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whatever
socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged to
provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage that they
propagate.
Earle
"admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in message
news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x...
>
> There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet.
> anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, or
> use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc.
>
> This is just the way Usenet works.
> It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness.
>
>
> Jeff DeWitt Wrote:
> > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out posts from
> > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to come
> > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoying
> > their
> > customers.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As
> > far as
> > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
> > with
> > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
> > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
> > have
> > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
> > >
> > > Any clue what to do about them?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net...
> > >
> > >>Hi Josh,
> > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find in
> > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls that would
> > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS -
> > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml
> > >>USENET COMPLAINTS -
> > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html
> > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>
> > >>Josh Piela wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understand
> > that
> > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? Is there
> > any
> > >
> > > way
> > >
> > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this board
> > >
> > > daily
> > >
> > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I miss
> > >
> > > allot
> > >
> > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps. Now
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > vulgarity.
> > >
> > > I
> > >
> > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the deal
> > is
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> admin
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
>
least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty for abuse
is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges. Now
Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does take some
effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caught abusing
privileges on Google Groups.
On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymous
remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software and figure
out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently post with
impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, then changes in
the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is one possible
result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, for example,
then it is dead for this purpose.
I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place. It is
so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselves
publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that free
speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whatever
socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged to
provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage that they
propagate.
Earle
"admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in message
news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x...
>
> There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet.
> anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, or
> use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc.
>
> This is just the way Usenet works.
> It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness.
>
>
> Jeff DeWitt Wrote:
> > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out posts from
> > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to come
> > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoying
> > their
> > customers.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As
> > far as
> > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
> > with
> > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
> > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
> > have
> > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
> > >
> > > Any clue what to do about them?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net...
> > >
> > >>Hi Josh,
> > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find in
> > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls that would
> > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS -
> > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml
> > >>USENET COMPLAINTS -
> > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html
> > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>
> > >>Josh Piela wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understand
> > that
> > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? Is there
> > any
> > >
> > > way
> > >
> > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this board
> > >
> > > daily
> > >
> > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I miss
> > >
> > > allot
> > >
> > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps. Now
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > vulgarity.
> > >
> > > I
> > >
> > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the deal
> > is
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> admin
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
>
#334
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
This is true, but Google Groups requires one to provide an identity, or at
least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty for abuse
is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges. Now
Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does take some
effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caught abusing
privileges on Google Groups.
On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymous
remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software and figure
out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently post with
impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, then changes in
the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is one possible
result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, for example,
then it is dead for this purpose.
I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place. It is
so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselves
publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that free
speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whatever
socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged to
provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage that they
propagate.
Earle
"admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in message
news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x...
>
> There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet.
> anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, or
> use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc.
>
> This is just the way Usenet works.
> It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness.
>
>
> Jeff DeWitt Wrote:
> > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out posts from
> > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to come
> > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoying
> > their
> > customers.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As
> > far as
> > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
> > with
> > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
> > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
> > have
> > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
> > >
> > > Any clue what to do about them?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net...
> > >
> > >>Hi Josh,
> > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find in
> > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls that would
> > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS -
> > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml
> > >>USENET COMPLAINTS -
> > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html
> > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>
> > >>Josh Piela wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understand
> > that
> > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? Is there
> > any
> > >
> > > way
> > >
> > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this board
> > >
> > > daily
> > >
> > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I miss
> > >
> > > allot
> > >
> > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps. Now
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > vulgarity.
> > >
> > > I
> > >
> > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the deal
> > is
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> admin
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
>
least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty for abuse
is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges. Now
Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does take some
effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caught abusing
privileges on Google Groups.
On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymous
remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software and figure
out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently post with
impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, then changes in
the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is one possible
result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, for example,
then it is dead for this purpose.
I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place. It is
so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselves
publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that free
speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whatever
socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged to
provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage that they
propagate.
Earle
"admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in message
news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x...
>
> There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet.
> anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, or
> use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc.
>
> This is just the way Usenet works.
> It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness.
>
>
> Jeff DeWitt Wrote:
> > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out posts from
> > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to come
> > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoying
> > their
> > customers.
> >
> > Jeff DeWitt
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers. As
> > far as
> > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abuse Usenet
> > with
> > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom from political
> > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, but all I
> > have
> > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse.
> > >
> > > Any clue what to do about them?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net...
> > >
> > >>Hi Josh,
> > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find in
> > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls that would
> > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS -
> > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtml
> > >>USENET COMPLAINTS -
> > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html
> > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/9
> > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>
> > >>Josh Piela wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understand
> > that
> > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? Is there
> > any
> > >
> > > way
> > >
> > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this board
> > >
> > > daily
> > >
> > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I miss
> > >
> > > allot
> > >
> > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps. Now
> > >
> > > it's
> > >
> > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > vulgarity.
> > >
> > > I
> > >
> > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the deal
> > is
> > >
> > > with
> > >
> > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> --
> admin
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
>
#335
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
I AM using a killfile :
doesn't mean the messages didn't make it to the usenet forum
Joeseph P. Blow Wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 04:05:02 GMT, admi
> <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote
>
>
> >There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet
>
> YOU can use a killfile. So could Jeff DeWittless. Billygoat can't
> He doesn't have the *****
>
> >anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, o
> >use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc
>
> >This is just the way Usenet works
> >It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness
>
>
> >Jeff DeWitt Wrote
> >> I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out post
> fro
> >> these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to com
> >> through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoyin
> >> thei
> >> customers
> >
> >> Jeff DeWit
> >
> >> Earle Horton wrote
> >> > Bill
> >>
> >> > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers
> A
> >> far a
> >> > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abus
> Usene
> >> wit
> >> > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom fro
> politica
> >> > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, bu
> all
> >> hav
> >> > **seen** coming from them, is abuse
> >>
> >> > Any clue what to do about them
> >>
> >> > Earl
> >>
> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in messag
> >> > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net..
> >>
> >> >>Hi Josh
> >> >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find i
> >> >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls tha
> woul
> >> >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS
> >> >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtm
> >> >>USENET COMPLAINTS
> >> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.htm
> >> >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/
> >> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||
> >> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com
> >> >
> >> >>Josh Piela wrote
> >> >
> >> >>>Hi everyone
> >> >>
> >> >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understan
> >> tha
> >> >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? I
> ther
> >> an
> >>
> >> > wa
> >>
> >> >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting thi
> boar
> >>
> >> > dail
> >>
> >> >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world
> mis
> >>
> >> > allo
> >>
> >> >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps
> No
> >>
> >> > it'
> >>
> >> >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessar
> >> vulgarity
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what th
> dea
> >> i
> >>
> >> > wit
> >>
> >> >>>all the crap that is being posted
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> -
> Just your average Joe
--
admi
----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.co
#336
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
I AM using a killfile :
doesn't mean the messages didn't make it to the usenet forum
Joeseph P. Blow Wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 04:05:02 GMT, admi
> <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote
>
>
> >There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet
>
> YOU can use a killfile. So could Jeff DeWittless. Billygoat can't
> He doesn't have the *****
>
> >anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, o
> >use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc
>
> >This is just the way Usenet works
> >It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness
>
>
> >Jeff DeWitt Wrote
> >> I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out post
> fro
> >> these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to com
> >> through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoyin
> >> thei
> >> customers
> >
> >> Jeff DeWit
> >
> >> Earle Horton wrote
> >> > Bill
> >>
> >> > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers
> A
> >> far a
> >> > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abus
> Usene
> >> wit
> >> > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom fro
> politica
> >> > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, bu
> all
> >> hav
> >> > **seen** coming from them, is abuse
> >>
> >> > Any clue what to do about them
> >>
> >> > Earl
> >>
> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in messag
> >> > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net..
> >>
> >> >>Hi Josh
> >> >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find i
> >> >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls tha
> woul
> >> >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS
> >> >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtm
> >> >>USENET COMPLAINTS
> >> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.htm
> >> >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/
> >> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||
> >> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com
> >> >
> >> >>Josh Piela wrote
> >> >
> >> >>>Hi everyone
> >> >>
> >> >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understan
> >> tha
> >> >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? I
> ther
> >> an
> >>
> >> > wa
> >>
> >> >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting thi
> boar
> >>
> >> > dail
> >>
> >> >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world
> mis
> >>
> >> > allo
> >>
> >> >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps
> No
> >>
> >> > it'
> >>
> >> >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessar
> >> vulgarity
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what th
> dea
> >> i
> >>
> >> > wit
> >>
> >> >>>all the crap that is being posted
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> -
> Just your average Joe
--
admi
----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.co
#337
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
I AM using a killfile :
doesn't mean the messages didn't make it to the usenet forum
Joeseph P. Blow Wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 04:05:02 GMT, admi
> <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote
>
>
> >There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet
>
> YOU can use a killfile. So could Jeff DeWittless. Billygoat can't
> He doesn't have the *****
>
> >anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups, o
> >use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc. etc
>
> >This is just the way Usenet works
> >It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness
>
>
> >Jeff DeWitt Wrote
> >> I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out post
> fro
> >> these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to com
> >> through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoyin
> >> thei
> >> customers
> >
> >> Jeff DeWit
> >
> >> Earle Horton wrote
> >> > Bill
> >>
> >> > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers
> A
> >> far a
> >> > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abus
> Usene
> >> wit
> >> > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom fro
> politica
> >> > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, bu
> all
> >> hav
> >> > **seen** coming from them, is abuse
> >>
> >> > Any clue what to do about them
> >>
> >> > Earl
> >>
> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in messag
> >> > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net..
> >>
> >> >>Hi Josh
> >> >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find i
> >> >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls tha
> woul
> >> >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS
> >> >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtm
> >> >>USENET COMPLAINTS
> >> http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.htm
> >> >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/
> >> >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||
> >> >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com
> >> >
> >> >>Josh Piela wrote
> >> >
> >> >>>Hi everyone
> >> >>
> >> >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting to understan
> >> tha
> >> >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? I
> ther
> >> an
> >>
> >> > wa
> >>
> >> >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting thi
> boar
> >>
> >> > dail
> >>
> >> >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world
> mis
> >>
> >> > allo
> >>
> >> >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps
> No
> >>
> >> > it'
> >>
> >> >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessar
> >> vulgarity
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what th
> dea
> >> i
> >>
> >> > wit
> >>
> >> >>>all the crap that is being posted
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> -
> Just your average Joe
--
admi
----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.co
#338
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
spam on usenet is not a new problem, may be new to this group - but al
the unmoderated groups get it at some level. Need I mention th
alt.binaries with all the piracy going on there - I haven't heard muc
effort from the film & music industry trying to stop that - they onl
go after the p2p software. It's virtually impossible to stop someon
from posting something on usenet. Sure you could create some deterent
- but where there's a will - there's a way
Earle Horton Wrote:
> This is true, but Google Groups requires one to provide an identity, o
> a
> least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty fo
> abus
> is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges
> No
> Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does tak
> som
> effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caugh
> abusin
> privileges on Google Groups
>
> On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymou
> remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software an
> figur
> out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently pos
> wit
> impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, the
> changes i
> the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is on
> possibl
> result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, fo
> example
> then it is dead for this purpose
>
> I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place
> It i
> so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselve
> publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that fre
> speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whateve
> socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged t
> provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage tha
> the
> propagate
>
> Earl
>
> "admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in messag
> news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x..
>
> > There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet
> > anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups
> o
> > use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc
> etc
>
> > This is just the way Usenet works
> > It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness
>
>
> > Jeff DeWitt Wrote
> > > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out post
> fro
> > > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to com
> > > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoyin
> > > thei
> > > customers
> >
> > > Jeff DeWit
> >
> > > Earle Horton wrote
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers
> A
> > > far a
> > > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abus
> Usene
> > > wit
> > > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom fro
> politica
> > > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, bu
> all
> > > hav
> > > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse
> > >
> > > > Any clue what to do about them
> > >
> > > > Earl
> > >
> > > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in messag
> > > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net..
> > >
> > > >>Hi Josh
> > > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find i
> > > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls tha
> woul
> > > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS
> > > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtm
> > > >>USENET COMPLAINTS
> > > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.htm
> > > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/
> > > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||
> > > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com
> > > >
> > > >>Josh Piela wrote
> > > >
> > > >>>Hi everyone
> > > >>
> > > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting t
> understan
> > > tha
> > > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? I
> ther
> > > an
> > >
> > > > way
> > > >
> > > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this
> board
> > > >
> > > > daily
> > > >
> > > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I
> miss
> > > >
> > > > allot
> > > >
> > > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps.
> Now
> > > >
> > > > it's
> > > >
> > > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > > vulgarity.
> > > >
> > > > I
> > > >
> > > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the
> deal
> > > is
> > > >
> > > > with
> > > >
> > > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > admin
> > ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
> >
--
admin
----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
#339
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
spam on usenet is not a new problem, may be new to this group - but al
the unmoderated groups get it at some level. Need I mention th
alt.binaries with all the piracy going on there - I haven't heard muc
effort from the film & music industry trying to stop that - they onl
go after the p2p software. It's virtually impossible to stop someon
from posting something on usenet. Sure you could create some deterent
- but where there's a will - there's a way
Earle Horton Wrote:
> This is true, but Google Groups requires one to provide an identity, o
> a
> least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty fo
> abus
> is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges
> No
> Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does tak
> som
> effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caugh
> abusin
> privileges on Google Groups
>
> On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymou
> remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software an
> figur
> out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently pos
> wit
> impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, the
> changes i
> the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is on
> possibl
> result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, fo
> example
> then it is dead for this purpose
>
> I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place
> It i
> so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselve
> publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that fre
> speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whateve
> socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged t
> provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage tha
> the
> propagate
>
> Earl
>
> "admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in messag
> news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x..
>
> > There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet
> > anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups
> o
> > use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc
> etc
>
> > This is just the way Usenet works
> > It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness
>
>
> > Jeff DeWitt Wrote
> > > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out post
> fro
> > > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to com
> > > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoyin
> > > thei
> > > customers
> >
> > > Jeff DeWit
> >
> > > Earle Horton wrote
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers
> A
> > > far a
> > > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abus
> Usene
> > > wit
> > > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom fro
> politica
> > > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, bu
> all
> > > hav
> > > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse
> > >
> > > > Any clue what to do about them
> > >
> > > > Earl
> > >
> > > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in messag
> > > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net..
> > >
> > > >>Hi Josh
> > > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find i
> > > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls tha
> woul
> > > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS
> > > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtm
> > > >>USENET COMPLAINTS
> > > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.htm
> > > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/
> > > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||
> > > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com
> > > >
> > > >>Josh Piela wrote
> > > >
> > > >>>Hi everyone
> > > >>
> > > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting t
> understan
> > > tha
> > > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? I
> ther
> > > an
> > >
> > > > way
> > > >
> > > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this
> board
> > > >
> > > > daily
> > > >
> > > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I
> miss
> > > >
> > > > allot
> > > >
> > > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps.
> Now
> > > >
> > > > it's
> > > >
> > > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > > vulgarity.
> > > >
> > > > I
> > > >
> > > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the
> deal
> > > is
> > > >
> > > > with
> > > >
> > > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > admin
> > ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
> >
--
admin
----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com
#340
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: what exactly happened here?
spam on usenet is not a new problem, may be new to this group - but al
the unmoderated groups get it at some level. Need I mention th
alt.binaries with all the piracy going on there - I haven't heard muc
effort from the film & music industry trying to stop that - they onl
go after the p2p software. It's virtually impossible to stop someon
from posting something on usenet. Sure you could create some deterent
- but where there's a will - there's a way
Earle Horton Wrote:
> This is true, but Google Groups requires one to provide an identity, o
> a
> least a valid email address, before posting. The possible penalty fo
> abus
> is loss of posting privileges on Google and loss of mailing privileges
> No
> Hotmail accounts are free, as are Google privileges, but it does tak
> som
> effort to set them up. So you can lose something, if you are caugh
> abusin
> privileges on Google Groups
>
> On the other hand, there is no at-risk investment with using anonymou
> remailers. It does take time to set up the encryption software an
> figur
> out the remailer routes, but once that is done, one can apparently pos
> wit
> impunity. Now if the abuse continues, at the present level, the
> changes i
> the structure of Usenet, to disallow anonymous remailers, is on
> possibl
> result. If all the servers block postings through dizum.com, fo
> example
> then it is dead for this purpose
>
> I can see why anonymous remailers came into being in the first place
> It i
> so people, with something to hide, can continue to express themselve
> publicly. Now I am all for free speech, but I am not so sure that fre
> speech rights include being able to hide one's true identity. Whateve
> socially redeeming function these anonymous remailers are alleged t
> provide, it appears to be swamped by the sheer amount of garbage tha
> the
> propagate
>
> Earl
>
> "admin" <admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x> wrote in messag
> news:admin.26usec@no-mx-wranglergear.com.x..
>
> > There is no way to block someone from posting on Usenet
> > anyone could just walk into a public library and use Google Groups
> o
> > use their Internet connection at work, or even a cell phone, etc
> etc
>
> > This is just the way Usenet works
> > It's greatest strength is also it's greatest weakness
>
>
> > Jeff DeWitt Wrote
> > > I wonder if it would be possible for the ISP's to filter out post
> fro
> > > these anonymous remailers? After all all of this stuff has to com
> > > through their servers and it's wasting good bandwidth and annoyin
> > > thei
> > > customers
> >
> > > Jeff DeWit
> >
> > > Earle Horton wrote
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > > The most abusive postings seem to come from anonymous remailers
> A
> > > far a
> > > > I can figure out, these exist, solely to allow people to abus
> Usene
> > > wit
> > > > impunity. I have heard "freedom of speech", "freedom fro
> politica
> > > > persecution", etc. argued for the existence of these pests, bu
> all
> > > hav
> > > > **seen** coming from them, is abuse
> > >
> > > > Any clue what to do about them
> > >
> > > > Earl
> > >
> > > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in messag
> > > > news:444AEDAE.98785F4F@***.net..
> > >
> > > >>Hi Josh
> > > >> You may help by reporting the abuse to the addresses you find i
> > > >>their header. That's the only way we may remove the trolls tha
> woul
> > > >>spam our groups. Learn how to via: SPAM COMPLAINTS
> > > >>http://spam.abuse.net/userhelp/howtocomplain.shtm
> > > >>USENET COMPLAINTS
> > > http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.htm
> > > >>PROBE ATTEMPTS - http://online.securityfocus.com/news/
> > > >> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||
> > > >>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com
> > > >
> > > >>Josh Piela wrote
> > > >
> > > >>>Hi everyone
> > > >>
> > > >>> What has happened to this newsgroup? I am starting t
> understan
> > > tha
> > > >>>Bill has pissed the wrong person off this time. Correct?? I
> ther
> > > an
> > >
> > > > way
> > > >
> > > >>>that we can fix this group? I looked forward to visiting this
> board
> > > >
> > > > daily
> > > >
> > > >>>and reading about the wonderful world of jeeps. It's a world I
> miss
> > > >
> > > > allot
> > > >
> > > >>>and I really enjoy reading everyone's moments with their jeeps.
> Now
> > > >
> > > > it's
> > > >
> > > >>>getting to be a bit much, with all this terribly unnecessary
> > > vulgarity.
> > > >
> > > > I
> > > >
> > > >>>am not looking to **** anyone off here, just wondering what the
> deal
> > > is
> > > >
> > > > with
> > > >
> > > >>>all the crap that is being posted.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
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