what exactly happened here?
04-23-2006, 02:33 PM
#121
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in
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> On another note, it's in the 70's outside and my Jeep is calling
> to me. Can you hear it?
> "Katieeeeeee... come put the top down.... lets go for a drive!"
I'd like to, how do I put the top down on a Grand Cherokee? Oh, wait,
never mind, the top's already down on the Miata and you're right, it's
time for a drive!
news:W_N2g.26463$Kh5.1353@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
> On another note, it's in the 70's outside and my Jeep is calling
> to me. Can you hear it?
> "Katieeeeeee... come put the top down.... lets go for a drive!"
I'd like to, how do I put the top down on a Grand Cherokee? Oh, wait,
never mind, the top's already down on the Miata and you're right, it's
time for a drive!
04-23-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
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> A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
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> A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
--
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04-23-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
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> A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
--
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http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
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news:KeL2g.4505$oW1.557@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
04-23-2006, 04:25 PM
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
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> A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
news:KeL2g.4505$oW1.557@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
> enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
04-23-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: news:KeL2g.4505$oW1.557@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
: > A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
: > enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
:
: youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
:
Nope but he's not like a Jeep God or anything.
Most of the information he has provided since I have been here has been
links to other people's sites.
Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
"That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
that's for DAMN sure.
I think that Tom said it well enough:
"IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
04-23-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: news:KeL2g.4505$oW1.557@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
: > A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
: > enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
:
: youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
:
Nope but he's not like a Jeep God or anything.
Most of the information he has provided since I have been here has been
links to other people's sites.
Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
"That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
that's for DAMN sure.
I think that Tom said it well enough:
"IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
04-23-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Nathan W. Collier" <Nathan@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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: "Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
: news:KeL2g.4505$oW1.557@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
: > A lot of Bill's knowledge can be gained from other sources easily
: > enough without all of the hooey that is going along with it lately.
:
: youre not _really_ trying to dismiss bills value to this group are you?
:
Nope but he's not like a Jeep God or anything.
Most of the information he has provided since I have been here has been
links to other people's sites.
Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
"That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
that's for DAMN sure.
I think that Tom said it well enough:
"IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
04-23-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
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> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
better ways than by trying to step on bill.
> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
founders.
> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
> that's for DAMN sure.
i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
> I think that Tom said it well enough:
> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
reached only makes sense.
> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
news:6JR2g.15163$Kn4.2596@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
better ways than by trying to step on bill.
> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
founders.
> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
> that's for DAMN sure.
i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
> I think that Tom said it well enough:
> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
reached only makes sense.
> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
04-23-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:6JR2g.15163$Kn4.2596@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
better ways than by trying to step on bill.
> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
founders.
> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
> that's for DAMN sure.
i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
> I think that Tom said it well enough:
> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
reached only makes sense.
> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
news:6JR2g.15163$Kn4.2596@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
better ways than by trying to step on bill.
> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
founders.
> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
> that's for DAMN sure.
i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
> I think that Tom said it well enough:
> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
reached only makes sense.
> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
04-23-2006, 05:15 PM
#130
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Re: what exactly happened here?
"Kate" <Kate@dub.dub.dub.com (please ask)> wrote in message
news:6JR2g.15163$Kn4.2596@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
better ways than by trying to step on bill.
> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
founders.
> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
> that's for DAMN sure.
i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
> I think that Tom said it well enough:
> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
reached only makes sense.
> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com
news:6JR2g.15163$Kn4.2596@bignews2.bellsouth.net.. .
> Most of the information he has provided since I have been here
exactly. youve only been here a few months and youre jumping on bills back
like a rabid dog. if youre trying to make a name for yourself, there are
better ways than by trying to step on bill.
> Furthermore, if he doesn't know about a particular vehicle, he just says
> "That's not a real Jeep" and dismisses it.
heh......thats your newbie coming out. when i first came into this
newsgroup i announced my shiny new 2000 tj sahara and bill told me that it
wasnt a "real" jeep. at first i was taken back....maybe offended a
little.....but i later grew to appreciate bills conviction to jeeping.
bottom line......right or wrong if it werent for the old school jeep purists
like bill, i dont think your rubicon would even exist. folks just like bill
(including bill!) built the jeep legacy that we all enjoy today. todays
jeepers (er, the offroading ones anyway) continue the legacy that the
old-schoolers built. you dont maintain a legacy by shitting on the
founders.
> He's certainly not to Jeeps what Bill S. is to Mustangs and big blocks
> that's for DAMN sure.
i dont think youve the knowledge or experience with jeeping yet to make that
determination. if you stick with jeeping, sooner or later youll run into a
problem that bill will be the one to solve for you.
> I think that Tom said it well enough:
> "IMO the bulk of his "knowledge" comes from an admittedly impressive
> ability to dig up information, but knowing where the book is in the
> library (and how to read it out loud), does not an expert make."
knowing enough about a subject to know from memory where to go to find it
and most importantly, THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO SO IN ORDER TO
HELP OTHERS is what makes bill a true asset to this newsgroup. besides,
linking to a page already scripted that reaches the same conclusion he
reached only makes sense.
> So you just put him up on any pedistal you want to Nate, but I'm not gonna
> do it just so I can be a part of the "Good ol' Boys Club"
heh......i dont have bill on a pedestal kate.....but in the 7 years ive been
reading this newsgroup ive grown to respect him. there is no club here.
you have givers, takers, lurkers, and entertainers. bill is both a giver
and an entertainer. even when i have no interest in a topic i always click
on his messages because one of two things will happen when i do.....ill
either learn something new or ill laugh at his comments. i am not
threatened by his experience, i recognize/respect it and i try to learn from
it.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com