Snow

> Not enough. It used to be 50% of the labor, but that is very rare now. The
> costs of compliance with epa, osha, bar , very high insurance and workers
> comp rates, defective parts, etc., adds up and most techs get less than
they
> used to, but are still expected to have 20-50K tied up in tools and
> specailty tools that become obsolete with every design change.
> A certified Master Auto Tech with 25 years experience still makes less
than
> a San Francisco Garbageman.

Which is still more then a certified aircraft technician and the car mech.
can write off all those tools he/she has to buy, an aircraft mech. gets to
write ---- off as we as a whole are not classed as "skilled" (at least here
in canada) were only recognized as "semi-skilled" go figure ..

Snow ...

Snow

> Not enough. It used to be 50% of the labor, but that is very rare now. The
> costs of compliance with epa, osha, bar , very high insurance and workers
> comp rates, defective parts, etc., adds up and most techs get less than
they
> used to, but are still expected to have 20-50K tied up in tools and
> specailty tools that become obsolete with every design change.
> A certified Master Auto Tech with 25 years experience still makes less
than
> a San Francisco Garbageman.

Which is still more then a certified aircraft technician and the car mech.
can write off all those tools he/she has to buy, an aircraft mech. gets to
write ---- off as we as a whole are not classed as "skilled" (at least here
in canada) were only recognized as "semi-skilled" go figure ..

Snow ...

Snow

> Not enough. It used to be 50% of the labor, but that is very rare now. The
> costs of compliance with epa, osha, bar , very high insurance and workers
> comp rates, defective parts, etc., adds up and most techs get less than
they
> used to, but are still expected to have 20-50K tied up in tools and
> specailty tools that become obsolete with every design change.
> A certified Master Auto Tech with 25 years experience still makes less
than
> a San Francisco Garbageman.

Which is still more then a certified aircraft technician and the car mech.
can write off all those tools he/she has to buy, an aircraft mech. gets to
write ---- off as we as a whole are not classed as "skilled" (at least here
in canada) were only recognized as "semi-skilled" go figure ..

Snow ...

COLLIDE13@webtv.net

What's a San Francisco Sanit Worker make?
What's the age limit for hire?

COLLIDE13@webtv.net

What's a San Francisco Sanit Worker make?
What's the age limit for hire?

COLLIDE13@webtv.net

What's a San Francisco Sanit Worker make?
What's the age limit for hire?

Nathan Collier

"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
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> They don't "do it because they can", Nathan.

ive seen far to many examples of dealership abuse to buy any dealership sob
stories about overhead and expenses. a large portion of the expense may be
justified, but a lot of it goes to pay for dealership inefficiency and
ineptness.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Nathan Collier

"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4004a4f7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> They don't "do it because they can", Nathan.

ive seen far to many examples of dealership abuse to buy any dealership sob
stories about overhead and expenses. a large portion of the expense may be
justified, but a lot of it goes to pay for dealership inefficiency and
ineptness.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Nathan Collier

"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:4004a4f7_1@newspeer2.tds.net...
> They don't "do it because they can", Nathan.

ive seen far to many examples of dealership abuse to buy any dealership sob
stories about overhead and expenses. a large portion of the expense may be
justified, but a lot of it goes to pay for dealership inefficiency and
ineptness.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

Dave Milne

that came into effect here in the last year I believe.

Dave Milne, Scotland

"Ed J." <ej_000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hn8900laj87aj1dsf4c363cesgk62ensm1@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 Jeepster wrote:
> I just heard a story on the radio this week that some organization
> representing independent shops is lobbying congress to require auto
> makers to provide diagnostic information, schematics, etc to
> independent shops. That would be a good thing, so it'll probably never
> happen.