Welder dilemma... opinions?
#41
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Good information!
From your advice I conclude:
Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
of experience.
For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
ratings or material thickness claims.
Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
welds.
These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
-Brian
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
: Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
: smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
: an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
:
: Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
: Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
: in any 10 minute period.
:
: All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
: order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
: amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
: derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
:
: Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
: Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
: multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
: claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
: most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
: cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
:
: Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
: positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
: can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
: bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
:
: Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
: flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
: (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
:
: Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
:
:
:
: Cherokee-LTD wrote:
:
: > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
I
: > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
of
: > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
The
: > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
of
: > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
: > breaker though.
: > -Brian
: >
: > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
: > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
135
: > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
: > :
: > :
: > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
: > future
: > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
building
: > : > bumpers etc.
: > : >
: > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
: > : >
: > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: > : >
: > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
: > almost
: > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
etc.
: > : >
: > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
deliver
: > to
: > : > Canada please include that info.
: > : >
: > : > Thanks,
: > : > -Brian
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
From your advice I conclude:
Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
of experience.
For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
ratings or material thickness claims.
Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
welds.
These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
-Brian
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
: Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
: smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
: an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
:
: Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
: Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
: in any 10 minute period.
:
: All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
: order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
: amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
: derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
:
: Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
: Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
: multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
: claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
: most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
: cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
:
: Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
: positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
: can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
: bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
:
: Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
: flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
: (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
:
: Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
:
:
:
: Cherokee-LTD wrote:
:
: > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
I
: > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
of
: > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
The
: > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
of
: > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
: > breaker though.
: > -Brian
: >
: > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
: > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
135
: > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
: > :
: > :
: > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
: > future
: > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
building
: > : > bumpers etc.
: > : >
: > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
: > : >
: > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: > : >
: > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
: > almost
: > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
etc.
: > : >
: > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
deliver
: > to
: > : > Canada please include that info.
: > : >
: > : > Thanks,
: > : > -Brian
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Good information!
From your advice I conclude:
Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
of experience.
For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
ratings or material thickness claims.
Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
welds.
These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
-Brian
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
: Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
: smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
: an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
:
: Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
: Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
: in any 10 minute period.
:
: All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
: order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
: amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
: derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
:
: Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
: Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
: multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
: claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
: most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
: cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
:
: Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
: positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
: can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
: bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
:
: Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
: flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
: (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
:
: Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
:
:
:
: Cherokee-LTD wrote:
:
: > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
I
: > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
of
: > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
The
: > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
of
: > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
: > breaker though.
: > -Brian
: >
: > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
: > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
135
: > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
: > :
: > :
: > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
: > future
: > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
building
: > : > bumpers etc.
: > : >
: > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
: > : >
: > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: > : >
: > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
: > almost
: > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
etc.
: > : >
: > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
deliver
: > to
: > : > Canada please include that info.
: > : >
: > : > Thanks,
: > : > -Brian
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
From your advice I conclude:
Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
of experience.
For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
ratings or material thickness claims.
Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
welds.
These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
-Brian
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
: Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
: smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
: an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
:
: Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
: Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
: in any 10 minute period.
:
: All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
: order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
: amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
: derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
:
: Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
: Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
: multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
: claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
: most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
: cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
:
: Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
: positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
: can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
: bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
:
: Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
: flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
: (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
:
: Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
:
:
:
: Cherokee-LTD wrote:
:
: > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
I
: > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
of
: > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
The
: > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
of
: > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
: > breaker though.
: > -Brian
: >
: > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
: > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
135
: > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
: > :
: > :
: > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
: > future
: > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
building
: > : > bumpers etc.
: > : >
: > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
: > : >
: > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: > : >
: > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
: > almost
: > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
etc.
: > : >
: > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
deliver
: > to
: > : > Canada please include that info.
: > : >
: > : > Thanks,
: > : > -Brian
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Good information!
From your advice I conclude:
Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
of experience.
For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
ratings or material thickness claims.
Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
welds.
These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
-Brian
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
: Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
: smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
: an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
:
: Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
: Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
: in any 10 minute period.
:
: All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
: order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
: amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
: derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
:
: Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
: Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
: multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
: claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
: most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
: cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
:
: Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
: positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
: can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
: bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
:
: Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
: flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
: (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
:
: Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
:
:
:
: Cherokee-LTD wrote:
:
: > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
I
: > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
of
: > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
The
: > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
of
: > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
: > breaker though.
: > -Brian
: >
: > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
: > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
135
: > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
: > :
: > :
: > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
: > future
: > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
building
: > : > bumpers etc.
: > : >
: > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
: > : >
: > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: > : >
: > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
: > almost
: > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
etc.
: > : >
: > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
deliver
: > to
: > : > Canada please include that info.
: > : >
: > : > Thanks,
: > : > -Brian
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
From your advice I conclude:
Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
of experience.
For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
ratings or material thickness claims.
Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
welds.
These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
-Brian
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
: Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
: smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
: an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
:
: Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
: Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
: in any 10 minute period.
:
: All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
: order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
: amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
: derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
:
: Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
: Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
: multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
: claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
: most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
: cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
:
: Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
: positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
: can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
: bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
:
: Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
: flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
: (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
:
: Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
:
:
:
: Cherokee-LTD wrote:
:
: > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
I
: > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
of
: > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
The
: > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
of
: > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
: > breaker though.
: > -Brian
: >
: > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
: > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
135
: > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
: > :
: > :
: > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
: > future
: > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
building
: > : > bumpers etc.
: > : >
: > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
: > : >
: > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: > : >
: > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
: > almost
: > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
etc.
: > : >
: > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
deliver
: > to
: > : > Canada please include that info.
: > : >
: > : > Thanks,
: > : > -Brian
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Yes on all counts. Change the 'impractable on aluminum' to 'not possible'
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Good information!
> From your advice I conclude:
> Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
> of experience.
> For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
> ratings or material thickness claims.
> Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
> welds.
> These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> : Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
> : smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
> : an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
> :
> : Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
> : Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
> : in any 10 minute period.
> :
> : All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
> : order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
> : amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
> : derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
> :
> : Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
> : Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
> : multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
> : claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
> : most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
> : cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
> :
> : Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
> : positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
> : can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
> : bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
> :
> : Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
> : flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
> : (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
> :
> : Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
> :
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> :
> : > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
> I
> : > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
> of
> : > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
> The
> : > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
> of
> : > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
> : > breaker though.
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> : > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
> : > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
> 135
> : > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
> : > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
> : > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> : > future
> : > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
> building
> : > : > bumpers etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : > : >
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : > : >
> : > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> : > almost
> : > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
> etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
> deliver
> : > to
> : > : > Canada please include that info.
> : > : >
> : > : > Thanks,
> : > : > -Brian
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
>
>
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Good information!
> From your advice I conclude:
> Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
> of experience.
> For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
> ratings or material thickness claims.
> Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
> welds.
> These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> : Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
> : smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
> : an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
> :
> : Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
> : Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
> : in any 10 minute period.
> :
> : All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
> : order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
> : amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
> : derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
> :
> : Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
> : Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
> : multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
> : claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
> : most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
> : cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
> :
> : Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
> : positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
> : can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
> : bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
> :
> : Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
> : flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
> : (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
> :
> : Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
> :
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> :
> : > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
> I
> : > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
> of
> : > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
> The
> : > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
> of
> : > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
> : > breaker though.
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> : > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
> : > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
> 135
> : > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
> : > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
> : > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> : > future
> : > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
> building
> : > : > bumpers etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : > : >
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : > : >
> : > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> : > almost
> : > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
> etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
> deliver
> : > to
> : > : > Canada please include that info.
> : > : >
> : > : > Thanks,
> : > : > -Brian
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
>
>
#45
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Yes on all counts. Change the 'impractable on aluminum' to 'not possible'
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Good information!
> From your advice I conclude:
> Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
> of experience.
> For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
> ratings or material thickness claims.
> Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
> welds.
> These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> : Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
> : smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
> : an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
> :
> : Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
> : Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
> : in any 10 minute period.
> :
> : All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
> : order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
> : amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
> : derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
> :
> : Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
> : Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
> : multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
> : claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
> : most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
> : cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
> :
> : Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
> : positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
> : can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
> : bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
> :
> : Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
> : flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
> : (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
> :
> : Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
> :
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> :
> : > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
> I
> : > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
> of
> : > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
> The
> : > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
> of
> : > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
> : > breaker though.
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> : > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
> : > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
> 135
> : > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
> : > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
> : > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> : > future
> : > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
> building
> : > : > bumpers etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : > : >
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : > : >
> : > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> : > almost
> : > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
> etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
> deliver
> : > to
> : > : > Canada please include that info.
> : > : >
> : > : > Thanks,
> : > : > -Brian
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
>
>
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Good information!
> From your advice I conclude:
> Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
> of experience.
> For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
> ratings or material thickness claims.
> Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
> welds.
> These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> : Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
> : smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
> : an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
> :
> : Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
> : Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
> : in any 10 minute period.
> :
> : All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
> : order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
> : amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
> : derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
> :
> : Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
> : Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
> : multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
> : claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
> : most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
> : cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
> :
> : Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
> : positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
> : can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
> : bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
> :
> : Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
> : flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
> : (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
> :
> : Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
> :
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> :
> : > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
> I
> : > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
> of
> : > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
> The
> : > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
> of
> : > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
> : > breaker though.
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> : > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
> : > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
> 135
> : > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
> : > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
> : > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> : > future
> : > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
> building
> : > : > bumpers etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : > : >
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : > : >
> : > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> : > almost
> : > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
> etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
> deliver
> : > to
> : > : > Canada please include that info.
> : > : >
> : > : > Thanks,
> : > : > -Brian
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
>
>
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Yes on all counts. Change the 'impractable on aluminum' to 'not possible'
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Good information!
> From your advice I conclude:
> Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
> of experience.
> For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
> ratings or material thickness claims.
> Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
> welds.
> These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> : Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
> : smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
> : an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
> :
> : Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
> : Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
> : in any 10 minute period.
> :
> : All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
> : order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
> : amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
> : derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
> :
> : Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
> : Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
> : multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
> : claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
> : most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
> : cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
> :
> : Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
> : positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
> : can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
> : bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
> :
> : Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
> : flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
> : (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
> :
> : Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
> :
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> :
> : > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
> I
> : > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
> of
> : > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
> The
> : > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
> of
> : > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
> : > breaker though.
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> : > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
> : > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
> 135
> : > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
> : > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
> : > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> : > future
> : > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
> building
> : > : > bumpers etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : > : >
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : > : >
> : > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> : > almost
> : > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
> etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
> deliver
> : > to
> : > : > Canada please include that info.
> : > : >
> : > : > Thanks,
> : > : > -Brian
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > :
> : > :
> : > :
> : >
> : >
>
>
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Good information!
> From your advice I conclude:
> Don't let infinite control be the deal breaker for my intended use / level
> of experience.
> For comparison pay close attention to duty cycle, less attention to amp
> ratings or material thickness claims.
> Reserve flux core for thicker materials, gas for thin gauge and visible
> welds.
> These machines will be impractical for an aluminium roll bar ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
> news:E5j8d.2723$M05.1814@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> : Infinite control is nice, 4 step control is quite acceptable with these
> : smaller units. If $$$ is an issue, go with the step control. (Or pick up
> : an infinite control unit on sale if possible)
> :
> : Look for the duty cycle, it is a good measure of the unit quality.
> : Higher duty cycle= heavier duty transformer. Duty cycle is the weld time
> : in any 10 minute period.
> :
> : All of the these units will get derated to about the same amperage: In
> : order to get up to the higher ratings, you need to plug them into a 30
> : amp 120volt circuit. Plugging them into a standard 20 amp circuit
> : derates all of them to about 90 amps or so.
> :
> : Forget about the rated thickness on any of these 120 volt welders.
> : Anything over 1/8" or so that works well on a 20 amp circuit requires
> : multiple passes. One of the regulars over on sci.engr.joining.welding
> : claims to have done 1" material using one of these welders. Took him
> : most of the day to lay on the multiple passes and wait for the welder to
> : cool off. Doable but completely impractical!
> :
> : Using flux core requires changing the polarity so the electrode is
> : positive. Look inside to see if the two heavy leads from the transformer
> : can be reversed. You will typically see two heavy leads going to two
> : bolts somewhere near the wire drive assembly.
> :
> : Using these units with gas gives nicer looking welds. Using these with
> : flux core gives better penetration, works better in windy conditins
> : (outside), and works better on rusty or dirty steel.
> :
> : Don't even think about aluminum, not enough power.
> :
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> :
> : > Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and
> I
> : > want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because
> of
> : > it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass.
> The
> : > (possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control
> of
> : > the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
> : > breaker though.
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : > "Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
> : > news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
> : > : Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a
> 135
> : > : for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
> : > : building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
> : > :
> : > :
> : > : "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
> : > : news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
> : > : >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> : > future
> : > : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation,
> building
> : > : > bumpers etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : > : >
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : > : >
> : > : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> : > almost
> : > : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual
> etc.
> : > : >
> : > : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to
> deliver
> : > to
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#47
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
> 90 seconds / 10 minutes is about my speed... 10 seconds welding, 3 minutes
> swearing, repeat as necessary.
LMAO that sounds like me playing around with your old unit. I even go to
the 10" welding rod = 7" of flashes and stuck electrodes and 3" of welding..
Ohh the joys of re-learning highschool metal shop.. lol
Snow...
#48
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
> 90 seconds / 10 minutes is about my speed... 10 seconds welding, 3 minutes
> swearing, repeat as necessary.
LMAO that sounds like me playing around with your old unit. I even go to
the 10" welding rod = 7" of flashes and stuck electrodes and 3" of welding..
Ohh the joys of re-learning highschool metal shop.. lol
Snow...
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
> 90 seconds / 10 minutes is about my speed... 10 seconds welding, 3 minutes
> swearing, repeat as necessary.
LMAO that sounds like me playing around with your old unit. I even go to
the 10" welding rod = 7" of flashes and stuck electrodes and 3" of welding..
Ohh the joys of re-learning highschool metal shop.. lol
Snow...
#50
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
You should read Richard Finch's book and especially his comments on
wire feed in general. Personally I think everyone should start with
oxyacetylene. But that doesn't sell $500 alternators.
A friend of mine built his own alterwelder from a book by Lindsay
Publications. It worked as well as he cared for it to since he just
wanted to do some temporary tack weld work.
wire feed in general. Personally I think everyone should start with
oxyacetylene. But that doesn't sell $500 alternators.
A friend of mine built his own alterwelder from a book by Lindsay
Publications. It worked as well as he cared for it to since he just
wanted to do some temporary tack weld work.