Welder dilemma... opinions?
#21
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and I
want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because of
it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass. The
(possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control of
the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
breaker though.
-Brian
"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a 135
: for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
:
:
: "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
future
: > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation, building
: > bumpers etc.
: >
: > I've narrowed the search down to:
: >
: > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: >
: > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
almost
: > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual etc.
: >
: > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to deliver
to
: > Canada please include that info.
: >
: > Thanks,
: > -Brian
: >
: >
:
:
:
want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because of
it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass. The
(possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control of
the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
breaker though.
-Brian
"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a 135
: for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
:
:
: "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
future
: > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation, building
: > bumpers etc.
: >
: > I've narrowed the search down to:
: >
: > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: >
: > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
almost
: > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual etc.
: >
: > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to deliver
to
: > Canada please include that info.
: >
: > Thanks,
: > -Brian
: >
: >
:
:
:
#22
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Thanks Rusted, I tend to agree but the 175 is out of my price range and I
want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because of
it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass. The
(possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control of
the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
breaker though.
-Brian
"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a 135
: for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
:
:
: "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
future
: > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation, building
: > bumpers etc.
: >
: > I've narrowed the search down to:
: >
: > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: >
: > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
almost
: > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual etc.
: >
: > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to deliver
to
: > Canada please include that info.
: >
: > Thanks,
: > -Brian
: >
: >
:
:
:
want to stick to a 110V machine. I included the Hobart machine because of
it's higher rating (140) and it claims to weld 1/4" in a single pass. The
(possible) downside is the 4 preset voltage outputs vs. infinite control of
the SP-135 and Millermatic 135. I don't know if this should be a deal
breaker though.
-Brian
"Rusted" <noEmail@please.com> wrote in message
news:Qeg8d.16661$CL6.3217@fe59.usenetserver.com...
: Look at the specs of the Lincoln SP-175 as well. I have been using a 135
: for auto body work and it is perfect for that, but I would think that
: building bumpers or rock-sliders with the 135 may be at it's limit.
:
:
: "Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
: news:JIadnfFBl7LDvPzcRVn-vA@rogers.com...
: >I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
future
: > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation, building
: > bumpers etc.
: >
: > I've narrowed the search down to:
: >
: > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
: > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
: > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
: > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
: >
: > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
almost
: > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
: > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
: > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual etc.
: >
: > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to deliver
to
: > Canada please include that info.
: >
: > Thanks,
: > -Brian
: >
: >
:
:
:
#23
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
I was just jealous, all I have is a Tombstone and Oxy-Acetylene,
I've watched people weld the auto chrome trim holes shut, and follow it
with a damp rag, without any wrap. I worked for weeks working the wrap
out of the nose and deck of my high school custom:
http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I don't need a real welder because I don't have a real Jeep with a real
> crack through it's real frame.
> But seriously, I want a machine for relatively light duty use that I can use
> at home or haul around to the cottage etc. I have a sneaky feeling that I
> will be doing some dock repairs next year with it and the boathouse only has
> 110V. I don't think a 300' 220V extension cord is a great idea.
> If I had your money, I'd get both!
> -Brian
I've watched people weld the auto chrome trim holes shut, and follow it
with a damp rag, without any wrap. I worked for weeks working the wrap
out of the nose and deck of my high school custom:
http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I don't need a real welder because I don't have a real Jeep with a real
> crack through it's real frame.
> But seriously, I want a machine for relatively light duty use that I can use
> at home or haul around to the cottage etc. I have a sneaky feeling that I
> will be doing some dock repairs next year with it and the boathouse only has
> 110V. I don't think a 300' 220V extension cord is a great idea.
> If I had your money, I'd get both!
> -Brian
#24
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
I was just jealous, all I have is a Tombstone and Oxy-Acetylene,
I've watched people weld the auto chrome trim holes shut, and follow it
with a damp rag, without any wrap. I worked for weeks working the wrap
out of the nose and deck of my high school custom:
http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I don't need a real welder because I don't have a real Jeep with a real
> crack through it's real frame.
> But seriously, I want a machine for relatively light duty use that I can use
> at home or haul around to the cottage etc. I have a sneaky feeling that I
> will be doing some dock repairs next year with it and the boathouse only has
> 110V. I don't think a 300' 220V extension cord is a great idea.
> If I had your money, I'd get both!
> -Brian
I've watched people weld the auto chrome trim holes shut, and follow it
with a damp rag, without any wrap. I worked for weeks working the wrap
out of the nose and deck of my high school custom:
http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I don't need a real welder because I don't have a real Jeep with a real
> crack through it's real frame.
> But seriously, I want a machine for relatively light duty use that I can use
> at home or haul around to the cottage etc. I have a sneaky feeling that I
> will be doing some dock repairs next year with it and the boathouse only has
> 110V. I don't think a 300' 220V extension cord is a great idea.
> If I had your money, I'd get both!
> -Brian
#25
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
I was just jealous, all I have is a Tombstone and Oxy-Acetylene,
I've watched people weld the auto chrome trim holes shut, and follow it
with a damp rag, without any wrap. I worked for weeks working the wrap
out of the nose and deck of my high school custom:
http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I don't need a real welder because I don't have a real Jeep with a real
> crack through it's real frame.
> But seriously, I want a machine for relatively light duty use that I can use
> at home or haul around to the cottage etc. I have a sneaky feeling that I
> will be doing some dock repairs next year with it and the boathouse only has
> 110V. I don't think a 300' 220V extension cord is a great idea.
> If I had your money, I'd get both!
> -Brian
I've watched people weld the auto chrome trim holes shut, and follow it
with a damp rag, without any wrap. I worked for weeks working the wrap
out of the nose and deck of my high school custom:
http://www.----------.com/53olds.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
>
> I don't need a real welder because I don't have a real Jeep with a real
> crack through it's real frame.
> But seriously, I want a machine for relatively light duty use that I can use
> at home or haul around to the cottage etc. I have a sneaky feeling that I
> will be doing some dock repairs next year with it and the boathouse only has
> 110V. I don't think a 300' 220V extension cord is a great idea.
> If I had your money, I'd get both!
> -Brian
#29
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Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Won't do flux core?? If you can reverse the polarity you can run any gas
MIG unit with flux core.
You won't like the 15% duty cycle. That works out to 90 seconds of weld
time every 10 minutes.
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Hey Steve,
> I was at Princess Auto to do a demo on the Deca and they couldn't because
> they weren't set up for it. I was not impressed by the Deca, it felt really
> cheap... thin gauge case etc. Also, it won't do flux core.
> -Brian
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:FCe8d.142887$Np3.6066217@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> : Hi Brian,
> :
> : Princess Auto has the Italian made Deca on sale for CA$329:
> :
> : http://princessauto.com/_osn.cfm?CTRY=CAN&output=OSN
> :
> : "115V, 20 amp, AC input. 70 amps@ 15% duty cycle. Automatic thermal
> : shutdown protection. 4 heat settings, variable wire speed; live wire
> : trigger. Gas operation only"
> :
> : Steve
> : http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> : > I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> future
> : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation, building
> : > bumpers etc.
> : >
> : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : >
> : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : >
> : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> almost
> : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual etc.
> : >
> : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to deliver
> to
> : > Canada please include that info.
> : >
> : > Thanks,
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
>
>
MIG unit with flux core.
You won't like the 15% duty cycle. That works out to 90 seconds of weld
time every 10 minutes.
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Hey Steve,
> I was at Princess Auto to do a demo on the Deca and they couldn't because
> they weren't set up for it. I was not impressed by the Deca, it felt really
> cheap... thin gauge case etc. Also, it won't do flux core.
> -Brian
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:FCe8d.142887$Np3.6066217@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> : Hi Brian,
> :
> : Princess Auto has the Italian made Deca on sale for CA$329:
> :
> : http://princessauto.com/_osn.cfm?CTRY=CAN&output=OSN
> :
> : "115V, 20 amp, AC input. 70 amps@ 15% duty cycle. Automatic thermal
> : shutdown protection. 4 heat settings, variable wire speed; live wire
> : trigger. Gas operation only"
> :
> : Steve
> : http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> : > I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> future
> : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation, building
> : > bumpers etc.
> : >
> : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : >
> : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : >
> : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> almost
> : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual etc.
> : >
> : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to deliver
> to
> : > Canada please include that info.
> : >
> : > Thanks,
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
>
>
#30
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Posts: n/a
Re: Welder dilemma... opinions?
Won't do flux core?? If you can reverse the polarity you can run any gas
MIG unit with flux core.
You won't like the 15% duty cycle. That works out to 90 seconds of weld
time every 10 minutes.
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Hey Steve,
> I was at Princess Auto to do a demo on the Deca and they couldn't because
> they weren't set up for it. I was not impressed by the Deca, it felt really
> cheap... thin gauge case etc. Also, it won't do flux core.
> -Brian
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:FCe8d.142887$Np3.6066217@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> : Hi Brian,
> :
> : Princess Auto has the Italian made Deca on sale for CA$329:
> :
> : http://princessauto.com/_osn.cfm?CTRY=CAN&output=OSN
> :
> : "115V, 20 amp, AC input. 70 amps@ 15% duty cycle. Automatic thermal
> : shutdown protection. 4 heat settings, variable wire speed; live wire
> : trigger. Gas operation only"
> :
> : Steve
> : http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> : > I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> future
> : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation, building
> : > bumpers etc.
> : >
> : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : >
> : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : >
> : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> almost
> : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual etc.
> : >
> : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to deliver
> to
> : > Canada please include that info.
> : >
> : > Thanks,
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
>
>
MIG unit with flux core.
You won't like the 15% duty cycle. That works out to 90 seconds of weld
time every 10 minutes.
Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> Hey Steve,
> I was at Princess Auto to do a demo on the Deca and they couldn't because
> they weren't set up for it. I was not impressed by the Deca, it felt really
> cheap... thin gauge case etc. Also, it won't do flux core.
> -Brian
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:FCe8d.142887$Np3.6066217@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> : Hi Brian,
> :
> : Princess Auto has the Italian made Deca on sale for CA$329:
> :
> : http://princessauto.com/_osn.cfm?CTRY=CAN&output=OSN
> :
> : "115V, 20 amp, AC input. 70 amps@ 15% duty cycle. Automatic thermal
> : shutdown protection. 4 heat settings, variable wire speed; live wire
> : trigger. Gas operation only"
> :
> : Steve
> : http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> :
> :
> : Cherokee-LTD wrote:
> : > I need a mig welder for the XJ. I want to finish my floors and some
> future
> : > odd jobs might include frame sliders, shock mount relocation, building
> : > bumpers etc.
> : >
> : > I've narrowed the search down to:
> : >
> : > Lincoln SP-135+ http://tinyurl.com/4p3cg
> : > Lincoln SP-135T http://tinyurl.com/45yd5
> : > Millermatic 135 http://tinyurl.com/4gtzp
> : > Hobart Handler 140 http://tinyurl.com/6gzyj
> : >
> : > I've been using the Lincoln 135+ and it's a great machine.... it's
> almost
> : > me-proof. (re: foolproof).
> : > Looking for pro's and con's, not biased opinions! Example infinite
> : > adjustment vs. pre-sets, automatic wire feed adjustment vs. manual etc.
> : >
> : > If anyone has a good source for any or all of these machines to deliver
> to
> : > Canada please include that info.
> : >
> : > Thanks,
> : > -Brian
> : >
> : >
>
>