weld-on accessories
#74
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Re: weld-on accessories
that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
always straighten it out...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
: absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
: a bumperette can offer you some protection.
:
: I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
:
: Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
:
: Perry
:
: 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
:
:
:
: MikeG wrote:
: > Hi Nathan,
: > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
whole
: > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
proof,
: > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
cheaper
: > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > MikeG
: >
: >
: > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: >
: >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: >
: > working
: >
: >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
: >
: > that
: >
: >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
stronger
: >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
was
: >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
sliders
: >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: >>thanks,
: >>
: >>--
: >>
: >>Nathan W. Collier
: >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
: >
:
always straighten it out...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
: absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
: a bumperette can offer you some protection.
:
: I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
:
: Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
:
: Perry
:
: 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
:
:
:
: MikeG wrote:
: > Hi Nathan,
: > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
whole
: > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
proof,
: > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
cheaper
: > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > MikeG
: >
: >
: > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: >
: >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: >
: > working
: >
: >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
: >
: > that
: >
: >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
stronger
: >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
was
: >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
sliders
: >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: >>thanks,
: >>
: >>--
: >>
: >>Nathan W. Collier
: >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
: >
:
#75
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
always straighten it out...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
: absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
: a bumperette can offer you some protection.
:
: I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
:
: Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
:
: Perry
:
: 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
:
:
:
: MikeG wrote:
: > Hi Nathan,
: > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
whole
: > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
proof,
: > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
cheaper
: > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > MikeG
: >
: >
: > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: >
: >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: >
: > working
: >
: >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
: >
: > that
: >
: >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
stronger
: >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
was
: >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
sliders
: >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: >>thanks,
: >>
: >>--
: >>
: >>Nathan W. Collier
: >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
: >
:
always straighten it out...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
: absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
: a bumperette can offer you some protection.
:
: I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
:
: Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
:
: Perry
:
: 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
:
:
:
: MikeG wrote:
: > Hi Nathan,
: > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
whole
: > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
proof,
: > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
cheaper
: > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > MikeG
: >
: >
: > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: >
: >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: >
: > working
: >
: >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
: >
: > that
: >
: >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
stronger
: >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
was
: >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
sliders
: >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: >>thanks,
: >>
: >>--
: >>
: >>Nathan W. Collier
: >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
: >
:
#76
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
always straighten it out...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
: absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
: a bumperette can offer you some protection.
:
: I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
:
: Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
:
: Perry
:
: 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
:
:
:
: MikeG wrote:
: > Hi Nathan,
: > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
whole
: > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
proof,
: > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
cheaper
: > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > MikeG
: >
: >
: > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: >
: >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: >
: > working
: >
: >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
: >
: > that
: >
: >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
stronger
: >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
was
: >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
sliders
: >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: >>thanks,
: >>
: >>--
: >>
: >>Nathan W. Collier
: >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
: >
:
always straighten it out...
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
: absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
: a bumperette can offer you some protection.
:
: I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
:
: Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
:
: Perry
:
: 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
:
:
:
: MikeG wrote:
: > Hi Nathan,
: > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
whole
: > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
proof,
: > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
cheaper
: > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > MikeG
: >
: >
: > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: >
: >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: >
: > working
: >
: >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
: >
: > that
: >
: >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
stronger
: >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
was
: >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
sliders
: >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: >>thanks,
: >>
: >>--
: >>
: >>Nathan W. Collier
: >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: >>
: >>
: >
: >
: >
:
#77
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
that won't do that so easily again.
Cheers!
Perry
Dave Milne wrote:
> that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
> always straighten it out...
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
> : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
> : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> :
> : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
> : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
> : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> :
> : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
> : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
> :
> : Perry
> :
> : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> :
> :
> :
> : MikeG wrote:
> : > Hi Nathan,
> : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
> whole
> : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
> proof,
> : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
> cheaper
> : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > MikeG
> : >
> : >
> : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : >
> : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
> : >
> : > working
> : >
> : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
> : >
> : > that
> : >
> : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> stronger
> : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
> was
> : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> sliders
> : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : >>thanks,
> : >>
> : >>--
> : >>
> : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : >>
> : >>
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
that won't do that so easily again.
Cheers!
Perry
Dave Milne wrote:
> that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
> always straighten it out...
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
> : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
> : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> :
> : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
> : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
> : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> :
> : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
> : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
> :
> : Perry
> :
> : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> :
> :
> :
> : MikeG wrote:
> : > Hi Nathan,
> : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
> whole
> : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
> proof,
> : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
> cheaper
> : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > MikeG
> : >
> : >
> : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : >
> : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
> : >
> : > working
> : >
> : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
> : >
> : > that
> : >
> : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> stronger
> : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
> was
> : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> sliders
> : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : >>thanks,
> : >>
> : >>--
> : >>
> : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : >>
> : >>
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
#78
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
that won't do that so easily again.
Cheers!
Perry
Dave Milne wrote:
> that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
> always straighten it out...
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
> : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
> : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> :
> : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
> : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
> : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> :
> : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
> : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
> :
> : Perry
> :
> : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> :
> :
> :
> : MikeG wrote:
> : > Hi Nathan,
> : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
> whole
> : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
> proof,
> : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
> cheaper
> : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > MikeG
> : >
> : >
> : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : >
> : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
> : >
> : > working
> : >
> : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
> : >
> : > that
> : >
> : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> stronger
> : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
> was
> : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> sliders
> : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : >>thanks,
> : >>
> : >>--
> : >>
> : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : >>
> : >>
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
that won't do that so easily again.
Cheers!
Perry
Dave Milne wrote:
> that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
> always straighten it out...
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
> : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
> : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> :
> : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
> : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
> : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> :
> : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
> : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
> :
> : Perry
> :
> : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> :
> :
> :
> : MikeG wrote:
> : > Hi Nathan,
> : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
> whole
> : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
> proof,
> : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
> cheaper
> : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > MikeG
> : >
> : >
> : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : >
> : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
> : >
> : > working
> : >
> : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
> : >
> : > that
> : >
> : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> stronger
> : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
> was
> : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> sliders
> : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : >>thanks,
> : >>
> : >>--
> : >>
> : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : >>
> : >>
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
#79
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: weld-on accessories
Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
that won't do that so easily again.
Cheers!
Perry
Dave Milne wrote:
> that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
> always straighten it out...
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
> : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
> : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> :
> : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
> : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
> : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> :
> : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
> : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
> :
> : Perry
> :
> : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> :
> :
> :
> : MikeG wrote:
> : > Hi Nathan,
> : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
> whole
> : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
> proof,
> : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
> cheaper
> : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > MikeG
> : >
> : >
> : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : >
> : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
> : >
> : > working
> : >
> : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
> : >
> : > that
> : >
> : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> stronger
> : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
> was
> : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> sliders
> : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : >>thanks,
> : >>
> : >>--
> : >>
> : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : >>
> : >>
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
that won't do that so easily again.
Cheers!
Perry
Dave Milne wrote:
> that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
> always straighten it out...
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
> news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
> : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
> : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15 MPH
> : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you think
> : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
> :
> : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
> : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
> : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
> :
> : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
> : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can see.
> :
> : Perry
> :
> : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
> :
> :
> :
> : MikeG wrote:
> : > Hi Nathan,
> : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
> whole
> : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is bullet
> proof,
> : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
> cheaper
> : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
> : > MikeG
> : >
> : >
> : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
> : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
> : >
> : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
> : >
> : > working
> : >
> : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in bumpers
> : >
> : > that
> : >
> : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
> stronger
> : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the design
> was
> : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
> sliders
> : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
> : >>thanks,
> : >>
> : >>--
> : >>
> : >>Nathan W. Collier
> : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
> : >>
> : >>
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
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Re: weld-on accessories
:-)
winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
: Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
: times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
: ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
: already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
: that won't do that so easily again.
:
: Cheers!
: Perry
:
:
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
: > always straighten it out...
: >
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
: > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
MPH
: > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
think
: > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
: > :
: > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
: > :
: > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
see.
: > :
: > : Perry
: > :
: > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : MikeG wrote:
: > : > Hi Nathan,
: > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
: > whole
: > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
bullet
: > proof,
: > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
: > cheaper
: > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > : > MikeG
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: > : >
: > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: > : >
: > : > working
: > : >
: > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
bumpers
: > : >
: > : > that
: > : >
: > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
: > stronger
: > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
design
: > was
: > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
: > sliders
: > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: > : >>thanks,
: > : >>
: > : >>--
: > : >>
: > : >>Nathan W. Collier
: > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
winches are pretty handy at straightening bumpers too.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
news:3F8F9172.8000902@nospam.perryshome.com...
: Fair enough! I had to straighten my 1966 IH Scout's front bumper a few
: times by strapping it to a tree and getting a running start backwards!
: ;-) I had to do it once with my stock bumper on my YJ but the damage was
: already done to the right front corner panel so I fabb'ed up a bumper
: that won't do that so easily again.
:
: Cheers!
: Perry
:
:
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: > that's why I'm keeping my stock bumper. If it gets too badly bent, I can
: > always straighten it out...
: >
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Perry Gagnon" <perry@nospam.perryshome.com> wrote in message
: > news:3F8CDF46.30600@nospam.perryshome.com...
: > : I'm not too sure about the latest TJ's but the Wrangler bumpers are
: > : pretty rigid extruded steel by design. They are not one of those 15
MPH
: > : absorption bumpers in the average safety conscious car. Unless you
think
: > : a bumperette can offer you some protection.
: > :
: > : I built a rigid bumper for my jeep to allow me to deflect up and over
: > : rather than through the offending obstacle. Though I haven't climbed a
: > : tree yet, knock on wood! (chuckle, chuckle)
: > :
: > : Most top of the line after market off road bumpers are far more rigid
: > : than the stock bumpers and offer no absorption benefits that I can
see.
: > :
: > : Perry
: > :
: > : 87YJ 36x12.5 MT Baja's
: > :
: > :
: > :
: > : MikeG wrote:
: > : > Hi Nathan,
: > : > I don't think it is a good idea to make the bumper to 'strong'. The
: > whole
: > : > idea behind a bumper is to absorb an impact. If the bumper is
bullet
: > proof,
: > : > all the impact will be transferred to the frame and jeep. It's alot
: > cheaper
: > : > to replace a bumper than deal with a tweaked frame.
: > : > MikeG
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Nathan Collier" <JeepMail@7SlotGrille.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:htKib.1580$En4.1384@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
: > : >
: > : >>i wanna sample the market a little bit to help with some designs im
: > : >
: > : > working
: > : >
: > : >>on. im really curious if you as jeepers would be interested in
bumpers
: > : >
: > : > that
: > : >
: > : >>weld to the frame instead of bolting? what if such a bumper was
: > stronger
: > : >>than what is currently avialable yet much cheaper? assume the
design
: > was
: > : >>such that you couldnt destroy the bumper if you tried. how about
: > sliders
: > : >>that also weld on instead of bolt?
: > : >>thanks,
: > : >>
: > : >>--
: > : >>
: > : >>Nathan W. Collier
: > : >>http://7SlotGrille.com
: > : >>
: > : >>
: > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
: