Re: weird body lean?
 

Hi Dave,
Is that how your country measures the weight capacity of a half to
truck? Over here if we have to account for the fat occupants we measure
in Gross Vehicle Weight.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Oh, and just to rub it in how ---- TJs or Real Jeeps are for payload, the
> smaller wheelbased Land Rover 90 has a payload of 1660lb *excluding* the 2
> front occupants.
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:2Yzrb.450$ZA6.4309184@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : Jeez, neither your Real 1/4 ton Jeep nor my TJ could cope with two of you
> in
> : the back without going over the payload limit ...
> :
> : Doing a bit more research I discovered that the Suzuki Grand Vitara and
> : Toyota RAV4 has a payload of 75 lb more than the TJ, the Nissan XTerra has
> : 65 lb more, the Honda CRV has 150 lb more, the Chevy Tracker has 50lb
> more,
> : the Ford Explorer 160lb more. What does the TJ have ? 820lb (including
> : occupants) , the same as ... wait for it ... a HONDA PASSPORT.
> :
> : Deduct 130lb of offroad armour and that leaves 690lb, less 200lb for me
> and
> : 120 for girlfriend.. That means that I have 370lb left which isn't enough
> : for 2 of my mates in the back, let alone luggage.
> :
> : Consequently, I must have overloaded many times without realising it ...
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> :
> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> : news:3FA5EFEF.133E6D3C@cox.net...
> : : I think maybe Jimmy, doesn't weigh three hundred pounds like I:
> : : http://www.----------.com/thanks02.htm
> : : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> : : mailto:--------------------
> : :
> : : "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> : : >
> : : > The simple fix is to swap the rears springs side to side. Unless
> : something's
> : : > broken or bent it will most likely level it right out.
> : : >
> : : > Yours seems a bit odd, most leaf spring Jeeps tend to lean to the
> : driver's
> : : > side due to the drivers weight fatiguing the springs over time. The
> : rears
> : : > tend to sag more than the fronts due to weight transfer while driving.
> :
> :

Re: weird body lean?
 

Hi Dave,
Is that how your country measures the weight capacity of a half to
truck? Over here if we have to account for the fat occupants we measure
in Gross Vehicle Weight.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Oh, and just to rub it in how ---- TJs or Real Jeeps are for payload, the
> smaller wheelbased Land Rover 90 has a payload of 1660lb *excluding* the 2
> front occupants.
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:2Yzrb.450$ZA6.4309184@news-text.cableinet.net...
> : Jeez, neither your Real 1/4 ton Jeep nor my TJ could cope with two of you
> in
> : the back without going over the payload limit ...
> :
> : Doing a bit more research I discovered that the Suzuki Grand Vitara and
> : Toyota RAV4 has a payload of 75 lb more than the TJ, the Nissan XTerra has
> : 65 lb more, the Honda CRV has 150 lb more, the Chevy Tracker has 50lb
> more,
> : the Ford Explorer 160lb more. What does the TJ have ? 820lb (including
> : occupants) , the same as ... wait for it ... a HONDA PASSPORT.
> :
> : Deduct 130lb of offroad armour and that leaves 690lb, less 200lb for me
> and
> : 120 for girlfriend.. That means that I have 370lb left which isn't enough
> : for 2 of my mates in the back, let alone luggage.
> :
> : Consequently, I must have overloaded many times without realising it ...
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> :
> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> : news:3FA5EFEF.133E6D3C@cox.net...
> : : I think maybe Jimmy, doesn't weigh three hundred pounds like I:
> : : http://www.----------.com/thanks02.htm
> : : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> : : mailto:--------------------
> : :
> : : "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
> : : >
> : : > The simple fix is to swap the rears springs side to side. Unless
> : something's
> : : > broken or bent it will most likely level it right out.
> : : >
> : : > Yours seems a bit odd, most leaf spring Jeeps tend to lean to the
> : driver's
> : : > side due to the drivers weight fatiguing the springs over time. The
> : rears
> : : > tend to sag more than the fronts due to weight transfer while driving.
> :
> :

Re: weird body lean?
 

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:44:18 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

>Hi Dave,
> Is that how your country measures the weight capacity of a half to
>truck? Over here if we have to account for the fat occupants we measure
>in Gross Vehicle Weight.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

And God knows we have to account for that. Just ask that leo lee girl
who posts out here all the time. The one I have killfiled. ;-)

>
>
>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and just to rub it in how ---- TJs or Real Jeeps are for payload, the
>> smaller wheelbased Land Rover 90 has a payload of 1660lb *excluding* the 2
>> front occupants.
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:2Yzrb.450$ZA6.4309184@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Jeez, neither your Real 1/4 ton Jeep nor my TJ could cope with two of you
>> in
>> : the back without going over the payload limit ...
>> :
>> : Doing a bit more research I discovered that the Suzuki Grand Vitara and
>> : Toyota RAV4 has a payload of 75 lb more than the TJ, the Nissan XTerra has
>> : 65 lb more, the Honda CRV has 150 lb more, the Chevy Tracker has 50lb
>> more,
>> : the Ford Explorer 160lb more. What does the TJ have ? 820lb (including
>> : occupants) , the same as ... wait for it ... a HONDA PASSPORT.
>> :
>> : Deduct 130lb of offroad armour and that leaves 690lb, less 200lb for me
>> and
>> : 120 for girlfriend.. That means that I have 370lb left which isn't enough
>> : for 2 of my mates in the back, let alone luggage.
>> :
>> : Consequently, I must have overloaded many times without realising it ...
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA5EFEF.133E6D3C@cox.net...
>> : : I think maybe Jimmy, doesn't weigh three hundred pounds like I:
>> : : http://www.----------.com/thanks02.htm
>> : : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> : : mailto:--------------------
>> : :
>> : : "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>> : : >
>> : : > The simple fix is to swap the rears springs side to side. Unless
>> : something's
>> : : > broken or bent it will most likely level it right out.
>> : : >
>> : : > Yours seems a bit odd, most leaf spring Jeeps tend to lean to the
>> : driver's
>> : : > side due to the drivers weight fatiguing the springs over time. The
>> : rears
>> : : > tend to sag more than the fronts due to weight transfer while driving.
>> :
>> :


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: weird body lean?
 

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:44:18 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

>Hi Dave,
> Is that how your country measures the weight capacity of a half to
>truck? Over here if we have to account for the fat occupants we measure
>in Gross Vehicle Weight.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

And God knows we have to account for that. Just ask that leo lee girl
who posts out here all the time. The one I have killfiled. ;-)

>
>
>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and just to rub it in how ---- TJs or Real Jeeps are for payload, the
>> smaller wheelbased Land Rover 90 has a payload of 1660lb *excluding* the 2
>> front occupants.
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:2Yzrb.450$ZA6.4309184@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Jeez, neither your Real 1/4 ton Jeep nor my TJ could cope with two of you
>> in
>> : the back without going over the payload limit ...
>> :
>> : Doing a bit more research I discovered that the Suzuki Grand Vitara and
>> : Toyota RAV4 has a payload of 75 lb more than the TJ, the Nissan XTerra has
>> : 65 lb more, the Honda CRV has 150 lb more, the Chevy Tracker has 50lb
>> more,
>> : the Ford Explorer 160lb more. What does the TJ have ? 820lb (including
>> : occupants) , the same as ... wait for it ... a HONDA PASSPORT.
>> :
>> : Deduct 130lb of offroad armour and that leaves 690lb, less 200lb for me
>> and
>> : 120 for girlfriend.. That means that I have 370lb left which isn't enough
>> : for 2 of my mates in the back, let alone luggage.
>> :
>> : Consequently, I must have overloaded many times without realising it ...
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA5EFEF.133E6D3C@cox.net...
>> : : I think maybe Jimmy, doesn't weigh three hundred pounds like I:
>> : : http://www.----------.com/thanks02.htm
>> : : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> : : mailto:--------------------
>> : :
>> : : "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>> : : >
>> : : > The simple fix is to swap the rears springs side to side. Unless
>> : something's
>> : : > broken or bent it will most likely level it right out.
>> : : >
>> : : > Yours seems a bit odd, most leaf spring Jeeps tend to lean to the
>> : driver's
>> : : > side due to the drivers weight fatiguing the springs over time. The
>> : rears
>> : : > tend to sag more than the fronts due to weight transfer while driving.
>> :
>> :


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: weird body lean?
 

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:44:18 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> shared the following:

>Hi Dave,
> Is that how your country measures the weight capacity of a half to
>truck? Over here if we have to account for the fat occupants we measure
>in Gross Vehicle Weight.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

And God knows we have to account for that. Just ask that leo lee girl
who posts out here all the time. The one I have killfiled. ;-)

>
>
>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> Oh, and just to rub it in how ---- TJs or Real Jeeps are for payload, the
>> smaller wheelbased Land Rover 90 has a payload of 1660lb *excluding* the 2
>> front occupants.
>> --
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>>
>> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>> news:2Yzrb.450$ZA6.4309184@news-text.cableinet.net...
>> : Jeez, neither your Real 1/4 ton Jeep nor my TJ could cope with two of you
>> in
>> : the back without going over the payload limit ...
>> :
>> : Doing a bit more research I discovered that the Suzuki Grand Vitara and
>> : Toyota RAV4 has a payload of 75 lb more than the TJ, the Nissan XTerra has
>> : 65 lb more, the Honda CRV has 150 lb more, the Chevy Tracker has 50lb
>> more,
>> : the Ford Explorer 160lb more. What does the TJ have ? 820lb (including
>> : occupants) , the same as ... wait for it ... a HONDA PASSPORT.
>> :
>> : Deduct 130lb of offroad armour and that leaves 690lb, less 200lb for me
>> and
>> : 120 for girlfriend.. That means that I have 370lb left which isn't enough
>> : for 2 of my mates in the back, let alone luggage.
>> :
>> : Consequently, I must have overloaded many times without realising it ...
>> :
>> : Dave Milne, Scotland
>> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> :
>> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> : news:3FA5EFEF.133E6D3C@cox.net...
>> : : I think maybe Jimmy, doesn't weigh three hundred pounds like I:
>> : : http://www.----------.com/thanks02.htm
>> : : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>> : : mailto:--------------------
>> : :
>> : : "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
>> : : >
>> : : > The simple fix is to swap the rears springs side to side. Unless
>> : something's
>> : : > broken or bent it will most likely level it right out.
>> : : >
>> : : > Yours seems a bit odd, most leaf spring Jeeps tend to lean to the
>> : driver's
>> : : > side due to the drivers weight fatiguing the springs over time. The
>> : rears
>> : : > tend to sag more than the fronts due to weight transfer while driving.
>> :
>> :


--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

Re: weird body lean?
 

In article <moktqv8soeodir2ot5n9d2f2aqadtprsrg@4ax.com>, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> writes:

>
>And God knows we have to account for that. Just ask that leo lee girl
>who posts out here all the time. The one I have killfiled. ;-)

I have this urge to put on my sweats and go to Wal Mart... :-)

Leo's Yahoo account has been suspended, we'll see how soon it is before he gets
a new Web TV account...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: weird body lean?
 

In article <moktqv8soeodir2ot5n9d2f2aqadtprsrg@4ax.com>, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> writes:

>
>And God knows we have to account for that. Just ask that leo lee girl
>who posts out here all the time. The one I have killfiled. ;-)

I have this urge to put on my sweats and go to Wal Mart... :-)

Leo's Yahoo account has been suspended, we'll see how soon it is before he gets
a new Web TV account...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: weird body lean?
 

In article <moktqv8soeodir2ot5n9d2f2aqadtprsrg@4ax.com>, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> writes:

>
>And God knows we have to account for that. Just ask that leo lee girl
>who posts out here all the time. The one I have killfiled. ;-)

I have this urge to put on my sweats and go to Wal Mart... :-)

Leo's Yahoo account has been suspended, we'll see how soon it is before he gets
a new Web TV account...
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html

Re: weird body lean?
 

Well, I double checked for you, and I was only partially correct :-)

From LR website:

Kerb weight = Unladen weight + full tank & 75kg driver.
Payload = GVW - Kerb weight.

The SWB Defender pickup has a payload of 1878lb.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:moktqv8soeodir2ot5n9d2f2aqadtprsrg@4ax.com...
: On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:44:18 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
: <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
:
: >Hi Dave,
: > Is that how your country measures the weight capacity of a half to
: >truck? Over here if we have to account for the fat occupants we measure
: >in Gross Vehicle Weight.
: > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: And God knows we have to account for that. Just ask that leo lee girl
: who posts out here all the time. The one I have killfiled. ;-)
:
: >
: >
: >Dave Milne wrote:
: >>
: >> Oh, and just to rub it in how ---- TJs or Real Jeeps are for payload,
the
: >> smaller wheelbased Land Rover 90 has a payload of 1660lb *excluding*
the 2
: >> front occupants.
: >> --
: >> Dave Milne, Scotland
: >> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >>
: >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >> news:2Yzrb.450$ZA6.4309184@news-text.cableinet.net...
: >> : Jeez, neither your Real 1/4 ton Jeep nor my TJ could cope with two of
you
: >> in
: >> : the back without going over the payload limit ...
: >> :
: >> : Doing a bit more research I discovered that the Suzuki Grand Vitara
and
: >> : Toyota RAV4 has a payload of 75 lb more than the TJ, the Nissan
XTerra has
: >> : 65 lb more, the Honda CRV has 150 lb more, the Chevy Tracker has
50lb
: >> more,
: >> : the Ford Explorer 160lb more. What does the TJ have ? 820lb
(including
: >> : occupants) , the same as ... wait for it ... a HONDA PASSPORT.
: >> :
: >> : Deduct 130lb of offroad armour and that leaves 690lb, less 200lb for
me
: >> and
: >> : 120 for girlfriend.. That means that I have 370lb left which isn't
enough
: >> : for 2 of my mates in the back, let alone luggage.
: >> :
: >> : Consequently, I must have overloaded many times without realising it
....
: >> :
: >> : Dave Milne, Scotland
: >> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >> :
: >> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
: >> : news:3FA5EFEF.133E6D3C@cox.net...
: >> : : I think maybe Jimmy, doesn't weigh three hundred pounds like
I:
: >> : : http://www.----------.com/thanks02.htm
: >> : : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: >> : : mailto:--------------------
: >> : :
: >> : : "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
: >> : : >
: >> : : > The simple fix is to swap the rears springs side to side. Unless
: >> : something's
: >> : : > broken or bent it will most likely level it right out.
: >> : : >
: >> : : > Yours seems a bit odd, most leaf spring Jeeps tend to lean to the
: >> : driver's
: >> : : > side due to the drivers weight fatiguing the springs over time.
The
: >> : rears
: >> : : > tend to sag more than the fronts due to weight transfer while
driving.
: >> :
: >> :
:
:
: --
: Travis
: http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
: The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
: :wq!

Re: weird body lean?
 

Well, I double checked for you, and I was only partially correct :-)

From LR website:

Kerb weight = Unladen weight + full tank & 75kg driver.
Payload = GVW - Kerb weight.

The SWB Defender pickup has a payload of 1878lb.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:moktqv8soeodir2ot5n9d2f2aqadtprsrg@4ax.com...
: On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:44:18 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
: <----------@cox.net> shared the following:
:
: >Hi Dave,
: > Is that how your country measures the weight capacity of a half to
: >truck? Over here if we have to account for the fat occupants we measure
: >in Gross Vehicle Weight.
: > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:
: And God knows we have to account for that. Just ask that leo lee girl
: who posts out here all the time. The one I have killfiled. ;-)
:
: >
: >
: >Dave Milne wrote:
: >>
: >> Oh, and just to rub it in how ---- TJs or Real Jeeps are for payload,
the
: >> smaller wheelbased Land Rover 90 has a payload of 1660lb *excluding*
the 2
: >> front occupants.
: >> --
: >> Dave Milne, Scotland
: >> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >>
: >> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
: >> news:2Yzrb.450$ZA6.4309184@news-text.cableinet.net...
: >> : Jeez, neither your Real 1/4 ton Jeep nor my TJ could cope with two of
you
: >> in
: >> : the back without going over the payload limit ...
: >> :
: >> : Doing a bit more research I discovered that the Suzuki Grand Vitara
and
: >> : Toyota RAV4 has a payload of 75 lb more than the TJ, the Nissan
XTerra has
: >> : 65 lb more, the Honda CRV has 150 lb more, the Chevy Tracker has
50lb
: >> more,
: >> : the Ford Explorer 160lb more. What does the TJ have ? 820lb
(including
: >> : occupants) , the same as ... wait for it ... a HONDA PASSPORT.
: >> :
: >> : Deduct 130lb of offroad armour and that leaves 690lb, less 200lb for
me
: >> and
: >> : 120 for girlfriend.. That means that I have 370lb left which isn't
enough
: >> : for 2 of my mates in the back, let alone luggage.
: >> :
: >> : Consequently, I must have overloaded many times without realising it
....
: >> :
: >> : Dave Milne, Scotland
: >> : '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >> :
: >> : "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
: >> : news:3FA5EFEF.133E6D3C@cox.net...
: >> : : I think maybe Jimmy, doesn't weigh three hundred pounds like
I:
: >> : : http://www.----------.com/thanks02.htm
: >> : : God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
: >> : : mailto:--------------------
: >> : :
: >> : : "Gerald G. McGeorge" wrote:
: >> : : >
: >> : : > The simple fix is to swap the rears springs side to side. Unless
: >> : something's
: >> : : > broken or bent it will most likely level it right out.
: >> : : >
: >> : : > Yours seems a bit odd, most leaf spring Jeeps tend to lean to the
: >> : driver's
: >> : : > side due to the drivers weight fatiguing the springs over time.
The
: >> : rears
: >> : : > tend to sag more than the fronts due to weight transfer while
driving.
: >> :
: >> :
:
:
: --
: Travis
: http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
: The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
: :wq!