Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

jerryg wrote:

> I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it.
> They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back

Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first?
Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain
when they do a typical pump-n-dump.

True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change
the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they
consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse.
You'd do well to avoid them altogether.

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

jerryg wrote:

> I watched them take it apart, clean it and put the proper oil in it.
> They did use valvoline oil both times. I wont be going back

Oh, they actually popped the cover and cleaned everything up first?
Good deal. I doubt they do this unless you're watching AND complain
when they do a typical pump-n-dump.

True story: my late Father-in-law watched a Skippy Lube outfit change
the oil filter then add one quart of oil to top off. THAT is what they
consider an "Oil Change" around here. I've seen worse. Much worse.
You'd do well to avoid them altogether.

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:06:25 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote:

>Heh, I am thinking that there is a chance they put engine oil in there by
>mistake. I think you want to calmly explain to the lube shop service
>manager what you told us, and that it started when you had them service the
>vehicle. Then maybe he can figure something out.

All he has to do is smell it. Engine oil and gear oil smell
differently. And good gear oil has a strong odor.

Dan
>
>Earle
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com...
>> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>
>> Greg
>> jerryg wrote:
>> > It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>> >
>> > Thanks guys,
>> >
>> > Greg
>> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> > > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>the
>> > > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>there.
>> > > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>what
>> > > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>quick
>> > > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> > >
>> > > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>thing
>> > > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> > > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> > > >
>> > > > jerryg wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>vent
>> > > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>housing
>> > > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>heat?
>> > > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Greg
>>
>

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:06:25 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote:

>Heh, I am thinking that there is a chance they put engine oil in there by
>mistake. I think you want to calmly explain to the lube shop service
>manager what you told us, and that it started when you had them service the
>vehicle. Then maybe he can figure something out.

All he has to do is smell it. Engine oil and gear oil smell
differently. And good gear oil has a strong odor.

Dan
>
>Earle
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com...
>> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>
>> Greg
>> jerryg wrote:
>> > It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>> >
>> > Thanks guys,
>> >
>> > Greg
>> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> > > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>the
>> > > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>there.
>> > > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>what
>> > > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>quick
>> > > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> > >
>> > > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>thing
>> > > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> > > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> > > >
>> > > > jerryg wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>vent
>> > > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>housing
>> > > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>heat?
>> > > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Greg
>>
>

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:06:25 -0700, "Earle Horton"
<anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote:

>Heh, I am thinking that there is a chance they put engine oil in there by
>mistake. I think you want to calmly explain to the lube shop service
>manager what you told us, and that it started when you had them service the
>vehicle. Then maybe he can figure something out.

All he has to do is smell it. Engine oil and gear oil smell
differently. And good gear oil has a strong odor.

Dan
>
>Earle
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com...
>> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>
>> Greg
>> jerryg wrote:
>> > It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>> >
>> > Thanks guys,
>> >
>> > Greg
>> > Earle Horton wrote:
>> > > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>the
>> > > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>there.
>> > > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>what
>> > > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>quick
>> > > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> > >
>> > > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>thing
>> > > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> > > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> > > >
>> > > > jerryg wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>vent
>> > > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>housing
>> > > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>heat?
>> > > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Greg
>>
>

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
>from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
>lube and do it correctly yourself.
>
>In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
>you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
>through the fill hole.
>
>All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>
>If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....

There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in
barrels, and pump it in through a tube.

Dan
>
>
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com...
>> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>
>> Greg
>> jerryg wrote:
>>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>>
>>> Thanks guys,
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>>> > the
>>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>>> > there.
>>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>>> > what
>>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>>> > quick
>>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>>> >
>>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
>>> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>>> >
>>> > Earle
>>> >
>>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> > >
>>> > > jerryg wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>>> > > > vent
>>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>>> > > > housing
>>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>>> > > > heat?
>>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Greg
>>
>

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
>from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
>lube and do it correctly yourself.
>
>In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
>you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
>through the fill hole.
>
>All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>
>If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....

There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in
barrels, and pump it in through a tube.

Dan
>
>
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com...
>> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>
>> Greg
>> jerryg wrote:
>>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>>
>>> Thanks guys,
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>>> > the
>>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>>> > there.
>>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>>> > what
>>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>>> > quick
>>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>>> >
>>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
>>> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>>> >
>>> > Earle
>>> >
>>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> > >
>>> > > jerryg wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>>> > > > vent
>>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>>> > > > housing
>>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>>> > > > heat?
>>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Greg
>>
>

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
<billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:

>I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
>from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
>lube and do it correctly yourself.
>
>In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
>you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
>through the fill hole.
>
>All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>
>If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....

There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in
barrels, and pump it in through a tube.

Dan
>
>
>
>"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegr oups.com...
>> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>>
>> Greg
>> jerryg wrote:
>>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>>
>>> Thanks guys,
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>>> > the
>>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>>> > there.
>>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>>> > what
>>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>>> > quick
>>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>>> >
>>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
>>> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>>> >
>>> > Earle
>>> >
>>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>> > >
>>> > > jerryg wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>>> > > > vent
>>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>>> > > > housing
>>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>>> > > > heat?
>>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Greg
>>
>

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7fnjo2h85oi5jvamgjddrtil4hdg0q618f@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
> <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
....
> >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and
> >watch as the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and
> >film everything he does and get close-ups of the labels on all the
> >containers they use....
>
> There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in
> barrels, and pump it in through a tube.
>
This is true even if they use the good stuff.

Earle

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 

"Hootowl" <ELN/zooo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:7fnjo2h85oi5jvamgjddrtil4hdg0q618f@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:07:32 -0500, "billy ray"
> <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
....
> >If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and
> >watch as the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and
> >film everything he does and get close-ups of the labels on all the
> >containers they use....
>
> There probably isn't one he could see-they probably buy it in bulk, in
> barrels, and pump it in through a tube.
>
This is true even if they use the good stuff.

Earle