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billy ray 12-20-2006 12:28 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is
not the exception, it is the norm.....

http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html

I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find
yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it...

"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> Wow thats good news!
> billy ray wrote:
>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't
>> derived
>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made
>> gear
>> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>>
>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do
>> that
>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and
>> refill
>> through the fill hole.
>>
>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>>
>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>>
>>
>>
>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>> >
>> > Greg
>> > jerryg wrote:
>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>> >>
>> >> Thanks guys,
>> >>
>> >> Greg
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>> >> > the
>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>> >> > there.
>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending
>> >> > on
>> >> > what
>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the
>> >> > local
>> >> > quick
>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> >> >
>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>> >> > thing
>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> > >
>> >> > > jerryg wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > vent
>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>> >> > > > housing
>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end?
>> >> > > > pressure?
>> >> > > > heat?
>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Greg
>> >

>




jerryg 12-20-2006 08:02 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Yes I am going to do it myself. I can do it , just lazy. I am though
going to ask them to see what they put in there. They put in additive
as well based on what I don't know. I will not be letting them do
anymore work for me, that's for sure. Anyway am going out today and
adding a second jeep to the litter. A Grand Cherokee for the wife!
Thanks for all the advice fellas. I really do appreciate it. Have a
great holiday!!!

Greg
Hootowl wrote:
> On 19 Dec 2006 20:22:41 -0800, "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> >tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> >is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> >abscense of gravity in that region?

>
> Either their oil was contaminated with water, or they used a gear oil
> that does not have anti-foam ingredients (ie, really cheap). They may
> have also installed an incompatible additive. Give up on them, eat
> the loss, and either take it somewhere else (that you've checked out
> with your local BBB first), or change it yourself. Another option, if
> you trust them to even touch your Jeep again, is to buy your own
> lubricant and make them install it free. Personally, I wouldn't let
> them touch it again if it were mine (the loss isn't that great). I've
> used 85w140 in everything I've ever owned (mild winters with frequent
> cold waves and killing frosts, hot summers, frequent moderately heavy
> towing).
>
> Dan.
> >
> >Greg



jerryg 12-20-2006 08:02 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Yes I am going to do it myself. I can do it , just lazy. I am though
going to ask them to see what they put in there. They put in additive
as well based on what I don't know. I will not be letting them do
anymore work for me, that's for sure. Anyway am going out today and
adding a second jeep to the litter. A Grand Cherokee for the wife!
Thanks for all the advice fellas. I really do appreciate it. Have a
great holiday!!!

Greg
Hootowl wrote:
> On 19 Dec 2006 20:22:41 -0800, "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> >tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> >is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> >abscense of gravity in that region?

>
> Either their oil was contaminated with water, or they used a gear oil
> that does not have anti-foam ingredients (ie, really cheap). They may
> have also installed an incompatible additive. Give up on them, eat
> the loss, and either take it somewhere else (that you've checked out
> with your local BBB first), or change it yourself. Another option, if
> you trust them to even touch your Jeep again, is to buy your own
> lubricant and make them install it free. Personally, I wouldn't let
> them touch it again if it were mine (the loss isn't that great). I've
> used 85w140 in everything I've ever owned (mild winters with frequent
> cold waves and killing frosts, hot summers, frequent moderately heavy
> towing).
>
> Dan.
> >
> >Greg



jerryg 12-20-2006 08:02 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Yes I am going to do it myself. I can do it , just lazy. I am though
going to ask them to see what they put in there. They put in additive
as well based on what I don't know. I will not be letting them do
anymore work for me, that's for sure. Anyway am going out today and
adding a second jeep to the litter. A Grand Cherokee for the wife!
Thanks for all the advice fellas. I really do appreciate it. Have a
great holiday!!!

Greg
Hootowl wrote:
> On 19 Dec 2006 20:22:41 -0800, "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> >tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> >is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> >abscense of gravity in that region?

>
> Either their oil was contaminated with water, or they used a gear oil
> that does not have anti-foam ingredients (ie, really cheap). They may
> have also installed an incompatible additive. Give up on them, eat
> the loss, and either take it somewhere else (that you've checked out
> with your local BBB first), or change it yourself. Another option, if
> you trust them to even touch your Jeep again, is to buy your own
> lubricant and make them install it free. Personally, I wouldn't let
> them touch it again if it were mine (the loss isn't that great). I've
> used 85w140 in everything I've ever owned (mild winters with frequent
> cold waves and killing frosts, hot summers, frequent moderately heavy
> towing).
>
> Dan.
> >
> >Greg



Mike Romain 12-20-2006 10:36 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Wrong stuff leaking?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jerryg wrote:
>
> Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> abscense of gravity in that region?
>
> Greg


Mike Romain 12-20-2006 10:36 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Wrong stuff leaking?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jerryg wrote:
>
> Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> abscense of gravity in that region?
>
> Greg


Mike Romain 12-20-2006 10:36 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Wrong stuff leaking?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

jerryg wrote:
>
> Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> abscense of gravity in that region?
>
> Greg


jerryg 12-20-2006 01:59 PM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to
replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing.
Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I
hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again!
Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this
afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!!

Greg
Mike Romain wrote:
> Wrong stuff leaking?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> jerryg wrote:
> >
> > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> > abscense of gravity in that region?
> >
> > Greg



jerryg 12-20-2006 01:59 PM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to
replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing.
Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I
hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again!
Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this
afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!!

Greg
Mike Romain wrote:
> Wrong stuff leaking?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> jerryg wrote:
> >
> > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> > abscense of gravity in that region?
> >
> > Greg



jerryg 12-20-2006 01:59 PM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Well took it back to the lube place. They do not remove the cover to
replace the oil. So they put new expensive oil in a filthy housing.
Nice huh? Well its cleaned up now and has 80w90 gear oil in it now. I
hope this takes care of it!! Anyway no more trips to that place again!
Thanks guys for all the input. As well I am going to pick up this
afternoon a 2006 Grand Cherokee. Thanks again to all!!

Greg
Mike Romain wrote:
> Wrong stuff leaking?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> jerryg wrote:
> >
> > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the vent
> > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff housing
> > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure? heat?
> > abscense of gravity in that region?
> >
> > Greg




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