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Earle Horton 12-20-2006 12:06 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Heh, I am thinking that there is a chance they put engine oil in there by
mistake. I think you want to calmly explain to the lube shop service
manager what you told us, and that it started when you had them service the
vehicle. Then maybe he can figure something out.

Earle

"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>
> Greg
> jerryg wrote:
> > It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
> >
> > Thanks guys,
> >
> > Greg
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean

the
> > > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in

there.
> > > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on

what
> > > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local

quick
> > > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
> > >
> > > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of

thing
> > > hardly ever happens when you do.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
> > > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > jerryg wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the

vent
> > > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff

housing
> > > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?

heat?
> > > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg

>




Earle Horton 12-20-2006 12:06 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Heh, I am thinking that there is a chance they put engine oil in there by
mistake. I think you want to calmly explain to the lube shop service
manager what you told us, and that it started when you had them service the
vehicle. Then maybe he can figure something out.

Earle

"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>
> Greg
> jerryg wrote:
> > It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
> >
> > Thanks guys,
> >
> > Greg
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean

the
> > > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in

there.
> > > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on

what
> > > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local

quick
> > > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
> > >
> > > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of

thing
> > > hardly ever happens when you do.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
> > > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > jerryg wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the

vent
> > > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff

housing
> > > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?

heat?
> > > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg

>




billy ray 12-20-2006 12:07 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
lube and do it correctly yourself.

In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
through the fill hole.

All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.

If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....



"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>
> Greg
> jerryg wrote:
>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>
>> Thanks guys,
>>
>> Greg
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>> > the
>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>> > there.
>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>> > what
>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>> > quick
>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> >
>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
>> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> > >
>> > > jerryg wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>> > > > vent
>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>> > > > housing
>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>> > > > heat?
>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> > > >
>> > > > Greg

>




billy ray 12-20-2006 12:07 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
lube and do it correctly yourself.

In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
through the fill hole.

All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.

If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....



"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>
> Greg
> jerryg wrote:
>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>
>> Thanks guys,
>>
>> Greg
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>> > the
>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>> > there.
>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>> > what
>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>> > quick
>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> >
>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
>> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> > >
>> > > jerryg wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>> > > > vent
>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>> > > > housing
>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>> > > > heat?
>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> > > >
>> > > > Greg

>




billy ray 12-20-2006 12:07 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
lube and do it correctly yourself.

In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
through the fill hole.

All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.

If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....



"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
> don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>
> Greg
> jerryg wrote:
>> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>>
>> Thanks guys,
>>
>> Greg
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>> > the
>> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>> > there.
>> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
>> > what
>> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
>> > quick
>> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> >
>> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
>> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> > >
>> > > jerryg wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
>> > > > vent
>> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>> > > > housing
>> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
>> > > > heat?
>> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> > > >
>> > > > Greg

>




jerryg 12-20-2006 12:09 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Wow thats good news!
billy ray wrote:
> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>
> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
> through the fill hole.
>
> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>
> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>
>
>
> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
> >
> > Greg
> > jerryg wrote:
> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
> >>
> >> Thanks guys,
> >>
> >> Greg
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
> >> > the
> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
> >> > there.
> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
> >> > what
> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
> >> > quick
> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
> >> >
> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> > >
> >> > > jerryg wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
> >> > > > vent
> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
> >> > > > housing
> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
> >> > > > heat?
> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Greg

> >



jerryg 12-20-2006 12:09 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Wow thats good news!
billy ray wrote:
> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>
> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
> through the fill hole.
>
> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>
> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>
>
>
> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
> >
> > Greg
> > jerryg wrote:
> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
> >>
> >> Thanks guys,
> >>
> >> Greg
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
> >> > the
> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
> >> > there.
> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
> >> > what
> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
> >> > quick
> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
> >> >
> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> > >
> >> > > jerryg wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
> >> > > > vent
> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
> >> > > > housing
> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
> >> > > > heat?
> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Greg

> >



jerryg 12-20-2006 12:09 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
Wow thats good news!
billy ray wrote:
> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't derived
> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made gear
> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>
> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do that
> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and refill
> through the fill hole.
>
> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>
> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>
>
>
> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
> >
> > Greg
> > jerryg wrote:
> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
> >>
> >> Thanks guys,
> >>
> >> Greg
> >> Earle Horton wrote:
> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
> >> > the
> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
> >> > there.
> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending on
> >> > what
> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the local
> >> > quick
> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
> >> >
> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of thing
> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >> > >
> >> > > jerryg wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up the
> >> > > > vent
> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
> >> > > > housing
> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end? pressure?
> >> > > > heat?
> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Greg

> >



billy ray 12-20-2006 12:28 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is
not the exception, it is the norm.....

http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html

I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find
yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it...

"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> Wow thats good news!
> billy ray wrote:
>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't
>> derived
>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made
>> gear
>> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>>
>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do
>> that
>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and
>> refill
>> through the fill hole.
>>
>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>>
>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>>
>>
>>
>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>> >
>> > Greg
>> > jerryg wrote:
>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>> >>
>> >> Thanks guys,
>> >>
>> >> Greg
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>> >> > the
>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>> >> > there.
>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending
>> >> > on
>> >> > what
>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the
>> >> > local
>> >> > quick
>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> >> >
>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>> >> > thing
>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> > >
>> >> > > jerryg wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > vent
>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>> >> > > > housing
>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end?
>> >> > > > pressure?
>> >> > > > heat?
>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Greg
>> >

>




billy ray 12-20-2006 12:28 AM

Re: Weeping gear oil (rear diff)
 
This is how the Quickie Lubes do business. Unfortunately this behavior is
not the exception, it is the norm.....

http://www.nbc4.tv/mechanicinvestiga...04/detail.html

I understand you may not want to do some maintenance work yourself. Find
yourself an honest mechanic in your neighborhood and have him do it...

"jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1166591391.592653.278300@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
> Wow thats good news!
> billy ray wrote:
>> I think what everyone is trying to tell you is either take it back to
>> quickie lube and have them do it correctly with gear lube that isn't
>> derived
>> from Red Chinese recycled waste tractor oil or buy some American made
>> gear
>> lube and do it correctly yourself.
>>
>> In either case you need to actually have the differential open. To do
>> that
>> you have to remove the 10 bolts that hold the cover on so you can look
>> inside and see what is going on. You do not want to just drain and
>> refill
>> through the fill hole.
>>
>> All you need is a wrench and a tube of RTV.
>>
>> If you do go to quickie lube take your lawn chair open it up and watch as
>> the tech works.... better yet take a video camera and film everything he
>> does and get close-ups of the labels on all the containers they use....
>>
>>
>>
>> "jerryg" <Gregginn7@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166590154.153606.319970@73g2000cwn.googlegro ups.com...
>> > As well, in the last three weeks, we have had no precipitation, and I
>> > don't drive it through any water. I don't get it!!
>> >
>> > Greg
>> > jerryg wrote:
>> >> It was just changed three weeks ago, could it be that bad??
>> >>
>> >> Thanks guys,
>> >>
>> >> Greg
>> >> Earle Horton wrote:
>> >> > That's what I'm thinking too. The fix is to remove the cover, clean
>> >> > the
>> >> > contaminated fluid out, and put fresh fluid of the correct type in
>> >> > there.
>> >> > Removing all of the contaminated fluid can be a problem, depending
>> >> > on
>> >> > what
>> >> > is actually in it. I think the real question is, "What did the
>> >> > local
>> >> > quick
>> >> > lube place do to this poor fellow's vehicle?"
>> >> >
>> >> > It's messy to change your own fluids, but then again this sort of
>> >> > thing
>> >> > hardly ever happens when you do.
>> >> >
>> >> > Earle
>> >> >
>> >> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:4588BC31.1D8E3ADC@cox.net...
>> >> > > It is contaminated, usually from water.
>> >> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> >> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >> > >
>> >> > > jerryg wrote:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Still no answer to the question of why does gear oil travel up
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > vent
>> >> > > > tube, and leak all over the garage floor. The level in the diff
>> >> > > > housing
>> >> > > > is quarter inch below fill hole. Bad oil? bad rear end?
>> >> > > > pressure?
>> >> > > > heat?
>> >> > > > abscense of gravity in that region?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Greg
>> >

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