Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
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Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
If you really want to disable the airbag why not just install a toggle or
key-switch yourself?
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
key-switch yourself?
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#102
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Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
If you really want to disable the airbag why not just install a toggle or
key-switch yourself?
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
key-switch yourself?
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#103
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
If you really want to disable the airbag why not just install a toggle or
key-switch yourself?
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
key-switch yourself?
--
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#104
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
Nobody is talking about taking the belts off.
If you take the back seat out for cargo, AND want to carry a child in the
front seat at the same time, then logic says that you need to bypass the
passenger airbags. The factory put the bypass circuit in '98 and later TJs,
ONLY the '97 TJ hasn't got this capability. You can add the capability by
having a factory sanctioned bypass switch installed. The factory sanctioned
bypass is certified.
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
If you take the back seat out for cargo, AND want to carry a child in the
front seat at the same time, then logic says that you need to bypass the
passenger airbags. The factory put the bypass circuit in '98 and later TJs,
ONLY the '97 TJ hasn't got this capability. You can add the capability by
having a factory sanctioned bypass switch installed. The factory sanctioned
bypass is certified.
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#105
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
Nobody is talking about taking the belts off.
If you take the back seat out for cargo, AND want to carry a child in the
front seat at the same time, then logic says that you need to bypass the
passenger airbags. The factory put the bypass circuit in '98 and later TJs,
ONLY the '97 TJ hasn't got this capability. You can add the capability by
having a factory sanctioned bypass switch installed. The factory sanctioned
bypass is certified.
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
If you take the back seat out for cargo, AND want to carry a child in the
front seat at the same time, then logic says that you need to bypass the
passenger airbags. The factory put the bypass circuit in '98 and later TJs,
ONLY the '97 TJ hasn't got this capability. You can add the capability by
having a factory sanctioned bypass switch installed. The factory sanctioned
bypass is certified.
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#106
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
Nobody is talking about taking the belts off.
If you take the back seat out for cargo, AND want to carry a child in the
front seat at the same time, then logic says that you need to bypass the
passenger airbags. The factory put the bypass circuit in '98 and later TJs,
ONLY the '97 TJ hasn't got this capability. You can add the capability by
having a factory sanctioned bypass switch installed. The factory sanctioned
bypass is certified.
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
If you take the back seat out for cargo, AND want to carry a child in the
front seat at the same time, then logic says that you need to bypass the
passenger airbags. The factory put the bypass circuit in '98 and later TJs,
ONLY the '97 TJ hasn't got this capability. You can add the capability by
having a factory sanctioned bypass switch installed. The factory sanctioned
bypass is certified.
"TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
news:dks51i$v1r$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>I know I can take the seat out, but the belts must still be capable of
>working in the back. If I take the belts off, then at re-install I will
>have to have them re-tested/certified for being compliant with local laws.
>Its strange, but that the price you have to pay for living in NZ. As for
>the disable switch, it was never introduced here. I tried getting it, but
>couldn't do it because of local regulations not allowing me to do so. Oh
>well, I'll save all my mods and have it certified in one go, once the TJ
>reaches toy stage.
>
> TW
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
>> Well, just because the back seat comes in the truck, there's no reason
>> you can't take it out. The Owner's Manual gives detailed directions on
>> how to do this.
>>
>> With the back seat, you gain lots of cargo space at the expense of
>> seating area. The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the
>> '97s didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but
>> requires the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form
>> that keeps the owner from going after the dealership for installing a
>> requested option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#107
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires the
> owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps the
> owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested option.
>
>
>
>
> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All come
>> in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or hard-top (or
>> both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local dealer that they
>> will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option starting from Jan
>> '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>
>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>
>> TW
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature
>>> to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>
>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>> you can as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
>>>> adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>> vehicle....
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children
>>>>> in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the
>>>>> front seat ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires the
> owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps the
> owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested option.
>
>
>
>
> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All come
>> in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or hard-top (or
>> both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local dealer that they
>> will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option starting from Jan
>> '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>
>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>
>> TW
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature
>>> to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>
>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>> you can as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
>>>> adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>> vehicle....
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children
>>>>> in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the
>>>>> front seat ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#108
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires the
> owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps the
> owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested option.
>
>
>
>
> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All come
>> in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or hard-top (or
>> both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local dealer that they
>> will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option starting from Jan
>> '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>
>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>
>> TW
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature
>>> to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>
>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>> you can as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
>>>> adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>> vehicle....
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children
>>>>> in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the
>>>>> front seat ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires the
> owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps the
> owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested option.
>
>
>
>
> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All come
>> in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or hard-top (or
>> both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local dealer that they
>> will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option starting from Jan
>> '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>
>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>
>> TW
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature
>>> to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>
>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>> you can as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
>>>> adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>> vehicle....
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children
>>>>> in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the
>>>>> front seat ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#109
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires the
> owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps the
> owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested option.
>
>
>
>
> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All come
>> in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or hard-top (or
>> both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local dealer that they
>> will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option starting from Jan
>> '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>
>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>
>> TW
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature
>>> to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>
>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>> you can as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
>>>> adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>> vehicle....
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children
>>>>> in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the
>>>>> front seat ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires the
> owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps the
> owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested option.
>
>
>
>
> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All come
>> in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or hard-top (or
>> both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local dealer that they
>> will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option starting from Jan
>> '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>
>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>
>> TW
>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable feature
>>> to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>
>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>> you can as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>
>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and an
>>>> adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>> vehicle....
>>>>
>>>> TW
>>>>
>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep children
>>>>> in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected riding in the
>>>>> front seat ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one of
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
#110
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Way to disable passenger airbay in '97 TJ?
I think it was limited by market as well. Disable switch has never been an
option in New Zealand.
TW
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
option in New Zealand.
TW
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:kaGdnWcoW8fUYOrenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> It might have come with a particular option package, I know I did not ask
> for it when I ordered my '00 TJ.
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:x_ednZ1cBrMoyezeRVn-rg@ez2.net...
> The '98 and later models have a Airbag Bypass that ONLY the '97s
>> didn't get. There is a bypass that came from the factory, but requires
>> the owner specifically ask for it, and sign some mind of form that keeps
>> the owner from going after the dealership for installing a requested
>> option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>> news:dkn3j3$r6l$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>> As Jason said, we don't have 4-bangers here. Only an inline 6. All
>>> come in two trims (Sport or Renegade), with the option of soft or
>>> hard-top (or both). No Rubi here yet. I have been told by the local
>>> dealer that they will be bringing in Unlimiteds with four door option
>>> starting from Jan '07. No decision yet on Rubi.
>>>
>>> Keep in mind, our steering wheel is on the right side of the rig.....
>>> Not much market for Wranglers when competing against Jap imports.
>>>
>>> TW
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:UNOdnWKp6KSzpfPenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@ez2.net...
>>>> Are they ALWAYS sold with a back seat? The base model 4 banger hasn't
>>>> got a back seat in the States. And, the back seat is a removable
>>>> feature to give a truck-like cargo area.
>>>>
>>>> All I'm suggesting is that one ask the question before blindly taking
>>>> "no" for an answer. The later years of production have a bypass switch
>>>> that the '97s don't have. We can get the bypass switch added, perhaps
>>>> you can as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>> news:dkhj6o$phs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>
>>>>> I realise that. Unfortunately, in New Zealand all Wranglers are sold
>>>>> with rear seats and classed as four seat passenger vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can change the specs and make it what I want, then I have to get it
>>>>> certified as a "low volume vehicle" i.e. a lot of inspection fee and
>>>>> an adjustment to my insurance premium for it being a special purpose
>>>>> vehicle....
>>>>>
>>>>> TW
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:veadnSOMZvTdhPHeRVn-rQ@ez2.net...
>>>>>> Actually, in the States we found that people put kids in the front
>>>>>> seat of trucks, and the Jeep Wrangler is listed as a truck. We have a
>>>>>> means of adding a passenger side airbag bypass switch to keep
>>>>>> children in the front seat safe. Well, as safe as can be expected
>>>>>> riding in the front seat ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "TW" <attw@wave.co.nz (delete this)> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:dkf8o2$4hs$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>>>>> It is illegal in New Zealand as well. If a car/truck came with an
>>>>>>> airbag from factory, it cannot be removed or disabled as that would
>>>>>>> void the "warrant of fitness". If you have an accident like that,
>>>>>>> you will be walking up the proverbial creek.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TW
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jason Backshall" <jbackshall@staff.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:436af7e9$0$1687$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "RobM" <motobusa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1131081389.600157.258410@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>>>>>I know how to do it in my CJ. :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand the late '98 and '99's have a cust-off switch, but I
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> to be able to temporarily disable it in my '97.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I searched the net and faq and didn't see anything so hoping one
>>>>>>>>> of you
>>>>>>>>> can shed some light.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please beware that in certain states (such as Western Australia,
>>>>>>>> Victoria and Queensland here in Australia), this may be illegal. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> J.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>