Washington DC Auto Show
 

I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted the
representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue. I
asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner engine
and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall engine for
off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at 1200 rpm and the
v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off roading you need the
torque at the low end not the high end. He said it is all in the gearing of
the transmission and the front and rear differentials. I pointed out the
new specifications as far as gearing were almost identical on the 2007 as to
it's predecessors. A few others were also giving the guy a hard time too.
I am just glad I have my 2004 TJ only tome will tell if the hardcore off
roaders acept the new 2007.

Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.

Coasty

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
springs and car-like interior.

Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html

You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html


"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at 1200
>rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off roading
>you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it is all in
>the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear differentials. I
>pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing were almost identical
>on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others were also giving the guy
>a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004 TJ only tome will tell if
>the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>
> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>
> Coasty
>

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
springs and car-like interior.

Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html

You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html


"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at 1200
>rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off roading
>you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it is all in
>the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear differentials. I
>pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing were almost identical
>on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others were also giving the guy
>a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004 TJ only tome will tell if
>the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>
> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>
> Coasty
>

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
springs and car-like interior.

Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html

You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html


"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at 1200
>rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off roading
>you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it is all in
>the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear differentials. I
>pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing were almost identical
>on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others were also giving the guy
>a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004 TJ only tome will tell if
>the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>
> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>
> Coasty
>

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

Yes I know what the torque values they are 235 ft.lbs at 3250 rpms and 190
hp at 4600 rpms your link chartis incorrect for newer I-6 engines, my point
is that the guy who was supposed to be the expert did not. There were a
bunch of other Jeep people there that had far more knowledge than I did and
they were really busting the guys hump.
Coasty

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:tJSdnW5vKbdyikDeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
> styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
> springs and car-like interior.
>
> Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html
>
> You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at 1200
>>rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off roading
>>you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it is all in
>>the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear differentials. I
>>pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing were almost identical
>>on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others were also giving the
>>guy a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004 TJ only tome will tell
>>if the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>>
>> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
>> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>
>

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

Yes I know what the torque values they are 235 ft.lbs at 3250 rpms and 190
hp at 4600 rpms your link chartis incorrect for newer I-6 engines, my point
is that the guy who was supposed to be the expert did not. There were a
bunch of other Jeep people there that had far more knowledge than I did and
they were really busting the guys hump.
Coasty

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:tJSdnW5vKbdyikDeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
> styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
> springs and car-like interior.
>
> Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html
>
> You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at 1200
>>rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off roading
>>you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it is all in
>>the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear differentials. I
>>pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing were almost identical
>>on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others were also giving the
>>guy a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004 TJ only tome will tell
>>if the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>>
>> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
>> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>
>

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

Yes I know what the torque values they are 235 ft.lbs at 3250 rpms and 190
hp at 4600 rpms your link chartis incorrect for newer I-6 engines, my point
is that the guy who was supposed to be the expert did not. There were a
bunch of other Jeep people there that had far more knowledge than I did and
they were really busting the guys hump.
Coasty

"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:tJSdnW5vKbdyikDeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
> styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
> springs and car-like interior.
>
> Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html
>
> You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html
>
>
> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at 1200
>>rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off roading
>>you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it is all in
>>the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear differentials. I
>>pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing were almost identical
>>on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others were also giving the
>>guy a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004 TJ only tome will tell
>>if the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>>
>> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
>> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>>
>> Coasty
>>
>
>

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

Look at these then

http://www.lotpro.com/cars/2006/jeep...ler/techspecs/

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:Aq2dnR8-2pdewUDeRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> Yes I know what the torque values they are 235 ft.lbs at 3250 rpms and 190
> hp at 4600 rpms your link chartis incorrect for newer I-6 engines, my
> point is that the guy who was supposed to be the expert did not. There
> were a bunch of other Jeep people there that had far more knowledge than I
> did and they were really busting the guys hump.
> Coasty
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:tJSdnW5vKbdyikDeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>> At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
>> styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
>> springs and car-like interior.
>>
>> Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
>> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html
>>
>> You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
>> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html
>>
>>
>> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>> news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>>>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>>>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>>>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>>>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>>>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at
>>>1200 rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off
>>>roading you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it
>>>is all in the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear
>>>differentials. I pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing
>>>were almost identical on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others
>>>were also giving the guy a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004
>>>TJ only tome will tell if the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>>>
>>> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
>>> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>>>
>>> Coasty
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

Look at these then

http://www.lotpro.com/cars/2006/jeep...ler/techspecs/

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:Aq2dnR8-2pdewUDeRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> Yes I know what the torque values they are 235 ft.lbs at 3250 rpms and 190
> hp at 4600 rpms your link chartis incorrect for newer I-6 engines, my
> point is that the guy who was supposed to be the expert did not. There
> were a bunch of other Jeep people there that had far more knowledge than I
> did and they were really busting the guys hump.
> Coasty
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:tJSdnW5vKbdyikDeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>> At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
>> styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
>> springs and car-like interior.
>>
>> Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
>> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html
>>
>> You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
>> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html
>>
>>
>> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>> news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>>>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>>>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>>>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>>>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>>>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at
>>>1200 rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off
>>>roading you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it
>>>is all in the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear
>>>differentials. I pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing
>>>were almost identical on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others
>>>were also giving the guy a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004
>>>TJ only tome will tell if the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>>>
>>> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
>>> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>>>
>>> Coasty
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Washington DC Auto Show
 

Look at these then

http://www.lotpro.com/cars/2006/jeep...ler/techspecs/

"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
news:Aq2dnR8-2pdewUDeRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
> Yes I know what the torque values they are 235 ft.lbs at 3250 rpms and 190
> hp at 4600 rpms your link chartis incorrect for newer I-6 engines, my
> point is that the guy who was supposed to be the expert did not. There
> were a bunch of other Jeep people there that had far more knowledge than I
> did and they were really busting the guys hump.
> Coasty
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:tJSdnW5vKbdyikDeRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>> At their introductions, there similar complaints about the YJ as well,
>> styling, urbanizing the marque, etc, and theTJ with its tossing away leaf
>> springs and car-like interior.
>>
>> Won't be the first short wheelbase Jeep with a V-6...
>> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/en...ntless225.html
>>
>> You might also review the peak torque specs of the 4.0L:
>> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/engine/amc242.html
>>
>>
>> "Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>> news:ENOdnXS6-J2LNUHeRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>>I was at the Washington DC auto show this past week saw the new 2007
>>>Wrangler. I was impressed with the overall design but when I confronted
>>>the representative with some question about the V-6 he skirted the issue.
>>>I asked why the change to the V-6? Well he stated that it is a cleaner
>>>engine and provides better gas mileage with more HP and a better overall
>>>engine for off roading. I ask, ok but the I-6 develops max torque at
>>>1200 rpm and the v-6 at around 3200 rpm. So how is it better for off
>>>roading you need the torque at the low end not the high end. He said it
>>>is all in the gearing of the transmission and the front and rear
>>>differentials. I pointed out the new specifications as far as gearing
>>>were almost identical on the 2007 as to it's predecessors. A few others
>>>were also giving the guy a hard time too. I am just glad I have my 2004
>>>TJ only tome will tell if the hardcore off roaders acept the new 2007.
>>>
>>> Hey BIll, they had a 1944 Dodge WC-56 Command Car there it looks like it
>>> would be a fun toy, maybe DC should bring it back in the Jeep form.
>>>
>>> Coasty
>>>
>>
>>
>
>