Want another gauge?
#21
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Re: Want another gauge?
Gauges cannot take the place of periodic (i.e. every day) inspection of the
ground under the vehicle, the under-hood area, etc. I don't need a gauge,
to tell me that the coolant reservoir is empty. I am interested in this
low-temperature, high-pressure, "funny noises" scenario. That would imply
that the engine is getting hot, but away from the temperature sensor area,
which is the cylinder head. That just doesn't make sense.
Earle
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> If you have ever had a coolant loss you didn't smell or see you would
> know that in such a case the temp gauge may stay in the green until
> funny noises start happening. If the pressure and temp are NOT in sync
> you have a problem!
>
> If the temp is high and pressure is normal you have a slow leak very
> probably.
>
> If the temp is high and you have NO pressure you have had a
> catastrophic loss of coolant.
>
ground under the vehicle, the under-hood area, etc. I don't need a gauge,
to tell me that the coolant reservoir is empty. I am interested in this
low-temperature, high-pressure, "funny noises" scenario. That would imply
that the engine is getting hot, but away from the temperature sensor area,
which is the cylinder head. That just doesn't make sense.
Earle
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125031399.500277.76600@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> If you have ever had a coolant loss you didn't smell or see you would
> know that in such a case the temp gauge may stay in the green until
> funny noises start happening. If the pressure and temp are NOT in sync
> you have a problem!
>
> If the temp is high and pressure is normal you have a slow leak very
> probably.
>
> If the temp is high and you have NO pressure you have had a
> catastrophic loss of coolant.
>
#22
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Re: Want another gauge?
Earle Horton wrote:
> Gauges cannot take the place of periodic (i.e. every day) inspection of the
> ground under the vehicle, the under-hood area, etc. I don't need a gauge,
> to tell me that the coolant reservoir is empty. I am interested in this
> low-temperature, high-pressure, "funny noises" scenario. That would imply
> that the engine is getting hot, but away from the temperature sensor area,
> which is the cylinder head. That just doesn't make sense.
>
I lost a Slant 6 in an old surplus telco truck when the old radiator
developed a pinhole leak on the highway. The hoses were harder than
prom night and the engine started making loud noises and burnt steel
smell all of a sudden. Temp gauge stayed over normal but not in the
red the whole time. When the level got low enough the hole was covered
by steam pressure dropped dramatically and fast-but by then the damage
was done.
I wound up getting another slant 6 for fifty bucks and it is still
running AFAIK....kid pulled it from his van, then found out how hard it
is to convert Mopars from one engine to another.
The temp of the liquid was high as hell...but not the sensor. Go
figure.
#23
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Re: Want another gauge?
Earle Horton wrote:
> Gauges cannot take the place of periodic (i.e. every day) inspection of the
> ground under the vehicle, the under-hood area, etc. I don't need a gauge,
> to tell me that the coolant reservoir is empty. I am interested in this
> low-temperature, high-pressure, "funny noises" scenario. That would imply
> that the engine is getting hot, but away from the temperature sensor area,
> which is the cylinder head. That just doesn't make sense.
>
I lost a Slant 6 in an old surplus telco truck when the old radiator
developed a pinhole leak on the highway. The hoses were harder than
prom night and the engine started making loud noises and burnt steel
smell all of a sudden. Temp gauge stayed over normal but not in the
red the whole time. When the level got low enough the hole was covered
by steam pressure dropped dramatically and fast-but by then the damage
was done.
I wound up getting another slant 6 for fifty bucks and it is still
running AFAIK....kid pulled it from his van, then found out how hard it
is to convert Mopars from one engine to another.
The temp of the liquid was high as hell...but not the sensor. Go
figure.
#24
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Re: Want another gauge?
Earle Horton wrote:
> Gauges cannot take the place of periodic (i.e. every day) inspection of the
> ground under the vehicle, the under-hood area, etc. I don't need a gauge,
> to tell me that the coolant reservoir is empty. I am interested in this
> low-temperature, high-pressure, "funny noises" scenario. That would imply
> that the engine is getting hot, but away from the temperature sensor area,
> which is the cylinder head. That just doesn't make sense.
>
I lost a Slant 6 in an old surplus telco truck when the old radiator
developed a pinhole leak on the highway. The hoses were harder than
prom night and the engine started making loud noises and burnt steel
smell all of a sudden. Temp gauge stayed over normal but not in the
red the whole time. When the level got low enough the hole was covered
by steam pressure dropped dramatically and fast-but by then the damage
was done.
I wound up getting another slant 6 for fifty bucks and it is still
running AFAIK....kid pulled it from his van, then found out how hard it
is to convert Mopars from one engine to another.
The temp of the liquid was high as hell...but not the sensor. Go
figure.
#25
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Re: Want another gauge?
Earle Horton wrote:
> Gauges cannot take the place of periodic (i.e. every day) inspection of the
> ground under the vehicle, the under-hood area, etc. I don't need a gauge,
> to tell me that the coolant reservoir is empty. I am interested in this
> low-temperature, high-pressure, "funny noises" scenario. That would imply
> that the engine is getting hot, but away from the temperature sensor area,
> which is the cylinder head. That just doesn't make sense.
>
I lost a Slant 6 in an old surplus telco truck when the old radiator
developed a pinhole leak on the highway. The hoses were harder than
prom night and the engine started making loud noises and burnt steel
smell all of a sudden. Temp gauge stayed over normal but not in the
red the whole time. When the level got low enough the hole was covered
by steam pressure dropped dramatically and fast-but by then the damage
was done.
I wound up getting another slant 6 for fifty bucks and it is still
running AFAIK....kid pulled it from his van, then found out how hard it
is to convert Mopars from one engine to another.
The temp of the liquid was high as hell...but not the sensor. Go
figure.
#26
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Re: Want another gauge?
On my 98 TJ, I was 4-wheeling in some big icy mud puddles before I knew
any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
symptoms.
I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
Admitting my own stupidity
-Jimmy
any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
symptoms.
I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
Admitting my own stupidity
-Jimmy
#27
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Re: Want another gauge?
On my 98 TJ, I was 4-wheeling in some big icy mud puddles before I knew
any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
symptoms.
I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
Admitting my own stupidity
-Jimmy
any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
symptoms.
I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
Admitting my own stupidity
-Jimmy
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: Want another gauge?
On my 98 TJ, I was 4-wheeling in some big icy mud puddles before I knew
any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
symptoms.
I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
Admitting my own stupidity
-Jimmy
any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
symptoms.
I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
Admitting my own stupidity
-Jimmy
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: Want another gauge?
On my 98 TJ, I was 4-wheeling in some big icy mud puddles before I knew
any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
symptoms.
I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
Admitting my own stupidity
-Jimmy
any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
symptoms.
I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
Admitting my own stupidity
-Jimmy
#30
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Re: Want another gauge?
I see why you say this, but it is fixing the wrong problem. What you
needed, was a dependable termperature gauge. In my experience, the
temperature gauges that I have had worked for me. Defective gauge? Loose
connection? Operator not looking at it? All of these can affect a pressure
gauge, too.
Earle
"Mood" <JimMood@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On my 98 TJ, I was 4-wheeling in some big icy mud puddles before I knew
> any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
> of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
> was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
> submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
> symptoms.
>
> I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
> noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
> stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
> even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
> tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
> At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
> and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
>
> A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
>
> Admitting my own stupidity
>
> -Jimmy
>
needed, was a dependable termperature gauge. In my experience, the
temperature gauges that I have had worked for me. Defective gauge? Loose
connection? Operator not looking at it? All of these can affect a pressure
gauge, too.
Earle
"Mood" <JimMood@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1125416537.279536.315640@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
> On my 98 TJ, I was 4-wheeling in some big icy mud puddles before I knew
> any better. The ice (I assume) broke off the collector off the bottom
> of my radiator and lost ALL the coolant in a big puddle. The problem
> was I had no idea, the coolant must have dumped while the radiator was
> submerged in the puddle because there was no steam or any other
> symptoms.
>
> I got out of the woods alright, but as I was driving down the road, I
> noticed a loss of power. Then it started pinging, then it started
> stalling. The temperature gauge was actually a little on the LOW side,
> even though the engine was seizing. I should have stopped and got a
> tow after the pinging but I really didn't know any better at the time.
> At least I learn quick but the Jeep ended up needing a new short-block
> and re-machine on the sealing surfaces of the head.
>
> A coolant pressure gauge would have been mighty handy at that time.
>
> Admitting my own stupidity
>
> -Jimmy
>