Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
#101
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
on the site.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
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> Studebaker & Packard were mfr'd in South Bend IN near my hometown. Not
sure
> if AMC ever produced anything there after they bought them out in the
early
> 60's. Ironically for Jeep lovers, AM General (mfr of the the military
> HumVee) is still based in South Bend and I'm told still uses some of the
> original Studebaker buildings. Not sure if the civillian Hummer is still
> built there or not. A former boss of mine became their Service GM in the
mid
> 90's but didn't make it long.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:414A0887.DA55099C@***.net...
> > Nash and Hudson merged to form American Motors Corp. and they
> > bought out Studibaker and Packard.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jack Carter wrote:
> >>
> >> By the way Bill, AMC didn't make the Avanti!!! Studebaker did. (You're
> >> forgiven.)
>
>
condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
on the site.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cidkas01deh@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Studebaker & Packard were mfr'd in South Bend IN near my hometown. Not
sure
> if AMC ever produced anything there after they bought them out in the
early
> 60's. Ironically for Jeep lovers, AM General (mfr of the the military
> HumVee) is still based in South Bend and I'm told still uses some of the
> original Studebaker buildings. Not sure if the civillian Hummer is still
> built there or not. A former boss of mine became their Service GM in the
mid
> 90's but didn't make it long.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:414A0887.DA55099C@***.net...
> > Nash and Hudson merged to form American Motors Corp. and they
> > bought out Studibaker and Packard.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jack Carter wrote:
> >>
> >> By the way Bill, AMC didn't make the Avanti!!! Studebaker did. (You're
> >> forgiven.)
>
>
#102
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
on the site.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cidkas01deh@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Studebaker & Packard were mfr'd in South Bend IN near my hometown. Not
sure
> if AMC ever produced anything there after they bought them out in the
early
> 60's. Ironically for Jeep lovers, AM General (mfr of the the military
> HumVee) is still based in South Bend and I'm told still uses some of the
> original Studebaker buildings. Not sure if the civillian Hummer is still
> built there or not. A former boss of mine became their Service GM in the
mid
> 90's but didn't make it long.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:414A0887.DA55099C@***.net...
> > Nash and Hudson merged to form American Motors Corp. and they
> > bought out Studibaker and Packard.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jack Carter wrote:
> >>
> >> By the way Bill, AMC didn't make the Avanti!!! Studebaker did. (You're
> >> forgiven.)
>
>
condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
on the site.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cidkas01deh@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Studebaker & Packard were mfr'd in South Bend IN near my hometown. Not
sure
> if AMC ever produced anything there after they bought them out in the
early
> 60's. Ironically for Jeep lovers, AM General (mfr of the the military
> HumVee) is still based in South Bend and I'm told still uses some of the
> original Studebaker buildings. Not sure if the civillian Hummer is still
> built there or not. A former boss of mine became their Service GM in the
mid
> 90's but didn't make it long.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:414A0887.DA55099C@***.net...
> > Nash and Hudson merged to form American Motors Corp. and they
> > bought out Studibaker and Packard.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jack Carter wrote:
> >>
> >> By the way Bill, AMC didn't make the Avanti!!! Studebaker did. (You're
> >> forgiven.)
>
>
#103
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
on the site.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cidkas01deh@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Studebaker & Packard were mfr'd in South Bend IN near my hometown. Not
sure
> if AMC ever produced anything there after they bought them out in the
early
> 60's. Ironically for Jeep lovers, AM General (mfr of the the military
> HumVee) is still based in South Bend and I'm told still uses some of the
> original Studebaker buildings. Not sure if the civillian Hummer is still
> built there or not. A former boss of mine became their Service GM in the
mid
> 90's but didn't make it long.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:414A0887.DA55099C@***.net...
> > Nash and Hudson merged to form American Motors Corp. and they
> > bought out Studibaker and Packard.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jack Carter wrote:
> >>
> >> By the way Bill, AMC didn't make the Avanti!!! Studebaker did. (You're
> >> forgiven.)
>
>
condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
on the site.
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cidkas01deh@enews3.newsguy.com...
> Studebaker & Packard were mfr'd in South Bend IN near my hometown. Not
sure
> if AMC ever produced anything there after they bought them out in the
early
> 60's. Ironically for Jeep lovers, AM General (mfr of the the military
> HumVee) is still based in South Bend and I'm told still uses some of the
> original Studebaker buildings. Not sure if the civillian Hummer is still
> built there or not. A former boss of mine became their Service GM in the
mid
> 90's but didn't make it long.
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:414A0887.DA55099C@***.net...
> > Nash and Hudson merged to form American Motors Corp. and they
> > bought out Studibaker and Packard.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jack Carter wrote:
> >>
> >> By the way Bill, AMC didn't make the Avanti!!! Studebaker did. (You're
> >> forgiven.)
>
>
#104
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
Matt,
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
> out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
> on the site.
That's right.
The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd have
to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it was
built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are made,
at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt, too.
There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are still in
use, though.
When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly line(s),
while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
Omnis and Horizons there.)
In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards) where
unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks west
for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either since I
mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about this,
though...
-John (from Kenosha)
P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current employer
does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha. I
thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very early
70's.
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
> out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
> on the site.
That's right.
The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd have
to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it was
built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are made,
at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt, too.
There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are still in
use, though.
When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly line(s),
while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
Omnis and Horizons there.)
In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards) where
unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks west
for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either since I
mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about this,
though...
-John (from Kenosha)
P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current employer
does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha. I
thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very early
70's.
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
Matt,
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
> out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
> on the site.
That's right.
The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd have
to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it was
built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are made,
at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt, too.
There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are still in
use, though.
When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly line(s),
while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
Omnis and Horizons there.)
In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards) where
unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks west
for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either since I
mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about this,
though...
-John (from Kenosha)
P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current employer
does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha. I
thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very early
70's.
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
> out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
> on the site.
That's right.
The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd have
to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it was
built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are made,
at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt, too.
There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are still in
use, though.
When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly line(s),
while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
Omnis and Horizons there.)
In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards) where
unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks west
for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either since I
mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about this,
though...
-John (from Kenosha)
P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current employer
does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha. I
thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very early
70's.
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
Matt,
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
> out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
> on the site.
That's right.
The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd have
to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it was
built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are made,
at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt, too.
There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are still in
use, though.
When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly line(s),
while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
Omnis and Horizons there.)
In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards) where
unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks west
for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either since I
mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about this,
though...
-John (from Kenosha)
P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current employer
does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha. I
thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very early
70's.
Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to haul
> out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build anything
> on the site.
That's right.
The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd have
to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it was
built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are made,
at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt, too.
There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are still in
use, though.
When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly line(s),
while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
Omnis and Horizons there.)
In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards) where
unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks west
for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either since I
mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about this,
though...
-John (from Kenosha)
P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current employer
does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha. I
thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very early
70's.
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
John,
Nice bit of history. I only knew that because my sister in law (until
recently) lived in Kenosha (husband worked for DeLuxe) and when we visited
we went down to the lakefront, that's when I learned it was the site of the
AMC engine plant.
Pretty cool, on a clear day you can see the Chicago skyline from there.
"John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:DRE2d.22614$B51.17377@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Matt,
>
> Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> > For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> > condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to
haul
> > out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build
anything
> > on the site.
>
> That's right.
>
> The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd
have
> to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it
was
> built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
>
> The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are
made,
> at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
> Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt,
too.
> There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are
still in
> use, though.
>
> When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly
line(s),
> while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
> AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
> did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
> Omnis and Horizons there.)
>
> In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards)
where
> unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks
west
> for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
> plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either
since I
> mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about
this,
> though...
>
> -John (from Kenosha)
>
> P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current
employer
> does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha.
I
> thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
>
> My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
> there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very
early
> 70's.
Nice bit of history. I only knew that because my sister in law (until
recently) lived in Kenosha (husband worked for DeLuxe) and when we visited
we went down to the lakefront, that's when I learned it was the site of the
AMC engine plant.
Pretty cool, on a clear day you can see the Chicago skyline from there.
"John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:DRE2d.22614$B51.17377@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Matt,
>
> Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> > For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> > condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to
haul
> > out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build
anything
> > on the site.
>
> That's right.
>
> The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd
have
> to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it
was
> built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
>
> The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are
made,
> at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
> Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt,
too.
> There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are
still in
> use, though.
>
> When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly
line(s),
> while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
> AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
> did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
> Omnis and Horizons there.)
>
> In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards)
where
> unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks
west
> for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
> plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either
since I
> mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about
this,
> though...
>
> -John (from Kenosha)
>
> P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current
employer
> does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha.
I
> thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
>
> My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
> there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very
early
> 70's.
#108
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
John,
Nice bit of history. I only knew that because my sister in law (until
recently) lived in Kenosha (husband worked for DeLuxe) and when we visited
we went down to the lakefront, that's when I learned it was the site of the
AMC engine plant.
Pretty cool, on a clear day you can see the Chicago skyline from there.
"John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:DRE2d.22614$B51.17377@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Matt,
>
> Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> > For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> > condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to
haul
> > out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build
anything
> > on the site.
>
> That's right.
>
> The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd
have
> to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it
was
> built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
>
> The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are
made,
> at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
> Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt,
too.
> There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are
still in
> use, though.
>
> When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly
line(s),
> while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
> AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
> did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
> Omnis and Horizons there.)
>
> In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards)
where
> unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks
west
> for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
> plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either
since I
> mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about
this,
> though...
>
> -John (from Kenosha)
>
> P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current
employer
> does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha.
I
> thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
>
> My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
> there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very
early
> 70's.
Nice bit of history. I only knew that because my sister in law (until
recently) lived in Kenosha (husband worked for DeLuxe) and when we visited
we went down to the lakefront, that's when I learned it was the site of the
AMC engine plant.
Pretty cool, on a clear day you can see the Chicago skyline from there.
"John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Matt,
>
> Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> > For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> > condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to
haul
> > out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build
anything
> > on the site.
>
> That's right.
>
> The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd
have
> to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it
was
> built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
>
> The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are
made,
> at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
> Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt,
too.
> There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are
still in
> use, though.
>
> When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly
line(s),
> while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
> AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
> did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
> Omnis and Horizons there.)
>
> In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards)
where
> unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks
west
> for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
> plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either
since I
> mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about
this,
> though...
>
> -John (from Kenosha)
>
> P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current
employer
> does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha.
I
> thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
>
> My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
> there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very
early
> 70's.
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John,
Nice bit of history. I only knew that because my sister in law (until
recently) lived in Kenosha (husband worked for DeLuxe) and when we visited
we went down to the lakefront, that's when I learned it was the site of the
AMC engine plant.
Pretty cool, on a clear day you can see the Chicago skyline from there.
"John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:DRE2d.22614$B51.17377@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Matt,
>
> Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> > For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> > condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to
haul
> > out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build
anything
> > on the site.
>
> That's right.
>
> The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd
have
> to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it
was
> built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
>
> The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are
made,
> at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
> Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt,
too.
> There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are
still in
> use, though.
>
> When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly
line(s),
> while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
> AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
> did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
> Omnis and Horizons there.)
>
> In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards)
where
> unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks
west
> for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
> plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either
since I
> mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about
this,
> though...
>
> -John (from Kenosha)
>
> P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current
employer
> does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha.
I
> thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
>
> My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
> there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very
early
> 70's.
Nice bit of history. I only knew that because my sister in law (until
recently) lived in Kenosha (husband worked for DeLuxe) and when we visited
we went down to the lakefront, that's when I learned it was the site of the
AMC engine plant.
Pretty cool, on a clear day you can see the Chicago skyline from there.
"John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in message
news:DRE2d.22614$B51.17377@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Matt,
>
> Matt Macchiarolo <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> > For that matter, the AMC engine plant in Kenosha WI is now a park and
> > condos. When the plant complex was removed, I understand they had to
haul
> > out hundreds of tons of contaminated soil before they could build
anything
> > on the site.
>
> That's right.
>
> The Lakefront plant was once owned by the Simmons Mattress Company. I'd
have
> to look at some of my old Kenosha history books to get the date that it
was
> built. I think it was Simmons who built it sometime in the late 1800's...
>
> The current Chrysler engine plant (where the 4.0 Liter Jeep engines are
made,
> at least for now) is still in operation in Kenosha. I seem to recall that
> Chrysler razed a lot of the older structures at that site, and rebuilt,
too.
> There are parts of the current plant that haven't been touched are are
still in
> use, though.
>
> When I was a kid, the current engine plant housed the final assembly
line(s),
> while the Lakefront plant held other operations (which may have included
> AMC's engine plant back then. I don't know, because I never toured it. I
> did tour the final assembly plant back in the 80's when they were building
> Omnis and Horizons there.)
>
> In AMC's time, it was a real inefficient operation (by today's standards)
where
> unfinished chassis were trucked from the Lakefront plant, about 30 blocks
west
> for final assembly. I'm think that Chrysler never utilized the Lakefront
> plant during their ownership. In fact, I doubt that Renault did either
since I
> mostly remember the Lakefront plant being vacant. I may be wrong about
this,
> though...
>
> -John (from Kenosha)
>
> P.S., I don't and never did work for Chrysler. Although my current
employer
> does supply software to them -- although not to any operations in Kenosha.
I
> thought I'd mention that so I'm not labeled a **** or anything... :)
>
> My grandfather did work for AMC at the Kenosha assembly plant. He worked
> there his whole life and retired sometime in the very late 60's or very
early
> 70's.
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Re: Wait for 05 TJ or get an 04? Any Advice?
Damn! We sold Jeep to al Qaeda??????
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> And selling Jeep to our enemies was smarter?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> And selling Jeep to our enemies was smarter?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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