Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
08-15-2004, 05:53 AM
#81
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
:-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Well, I like to keep my cars, without having to work on them, the
> heads have never been off my '78 Bronco with over three hundred thousand
> miles, nor '89 Thunderbird, with over two hundred and fifty thousand
> miles.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Well, I've also seen over 200 truckers stalled in parking lots and
> > beside the road in 800 miles of westbound I-80 because they were so
> > cheap that they thought they could get by with #2 diesel in cold
> > weather. And the truckers that left their engines running, they would
> > stall on the on-ramps or 1/4 mile onto the freeway when the sludge they
> > were burning hit the injectors. Nary a one on eastbound, guess those
> > northern guys have more respect for their equipment. But what do I know
> > about big trucks?
> >
> > As for FI automobile engines, 1500 rpm at 20 mph is just enough load to
> > keep the engine from racing too fast under fast idle conditions.
:-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:411D52C6.15E25653@***.net...
> Well, I like to keep my cars, without having to work on them, the
> heads have never been off my '78 Bronco with over three hundred thousand
> miles, nor '89 Thunderbird, with over two hundred and fifty thousand
> miles.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Well, I've also seen over 200 truckers stalled in parking lots and
> > beside the road in 800 miles of westbound I-80 because they were so
> > cheap that they thought they could get by with #2 diesel in cold
> > weather. And the truckers that left their engines running, they would
> > stall on the on-ramps or 1/4 mile onto the freeway when the sludge they
> > were burning hit the injectors. Nary a one on eastbound, guess those
> > northern guys have more respect for their equipment. But what do I know
> > about big trucks?
> >
> > As for FI automobile engines, 1500 rpm at 20 mph is just enough load to
> > keep the engine from racing too fast under fast idle conditions.
08-15-2004, 02:02 PM
#82
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
> :-)
everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
> :-)
08-15-2004, 02:02 PM
#83
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
> :-)
everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
> :-)
08-15-2004, 02:02 PM
#84
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
> :-)
everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
> :-)
08-15-2004, 02:02 PM
#85
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
> :-)
everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
> :-)
08-15-2004, 03:22 PM
#86
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
But most of the FI vehicles are not running air intake at some resonable
temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>:-)
temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>:-)
08-15-2004, 03:22 PM
#87
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
But most of the FI vehicles are not running air intake at some resonable
temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>:-)
temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>:-)
08-15-2004, 03:22 PM
#88
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
But most of the FI vehicles are not running air intake at some resonable
temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>:-)
temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>:-)
08-15-2004, 03:22 PM
#89
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
But most of the FI vehicles are not running air intake at some resonable
temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>:-)
temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
>>Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>:-)
08-15-2004, 03:33 PM
#90
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
RoyJ did pass the time by typing:
> But most of the FI vehicles are not running air intake at some resonable
> temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
> exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
> vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
Colder air is denser and the ecu will increase fuel to keep a proper ratio.
Carbs can't do that. FI vehicles almost never have heat risers like a carb
does because they arn't as suceptable to icing. That's where having an intake
under the hood in cold weather is better than sucking in outside air. A friend
of mine uses a hot air system from an old pickup and plumbed the existing
air box with it.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
>> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
>> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>> :-)
> But most of the FI vehicles are not running air intake at some resonable
> temp like the mid 60's to mid 80's engines do. My carb vehicles run
> exactly the same gas mileage on a long trip in winter and summer. FI
> vehicles take significantly more gas in extreme cold. Something is differnt.
Colder air is denser and the ecu will increase fuel to keep a proper ratio.
Carbs can't do that. FI vehicles almost never have heat risers like a carb
does because they arn't as suceptable to icing. That's where having an intake
under the hood in cold weather is better than sucking in outside air. A friend
of mine uses a hot air system from an old pickup and plumbed the existing
air box with it.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>> Still two hundred degrees, operating temperature is the same
>> everywhere. Imagine the airline industry, if they just cruised from
>> passenger ramp and took off, a few have and dropped out of the sky.
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>>> Ya bill, you get a lot of -35 degree days in February, don't you?
>>> :-)
