Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
08-14-2004, 07:02 PM
#51
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Fred W. proclaimed:
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca...
>
>>Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Frank
>
>
> The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting
> idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you
> start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to
> move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps
> the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp.
> Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't
> just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge
> too)
>
> Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca...
>
>>Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Frank
>
>
> The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting
> idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you
> start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to
> move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps
> the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp.
> Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't
> just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge
> too)
>
> Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:02 PM
#52
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Fred W. proclaimed:
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca...
>
>>Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Frank
>
>
> The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting
> idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you
> start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to
> move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps
> the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp.
> Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't
> just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge
> too)
>
> Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca...
>
>>Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Frank
>
>
> The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting
> idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you
> start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to
> move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps
> the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp.
> Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't
> just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge
> too)
>
> Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:02 PM
#53
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Fred W. proclaimed:
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca...
>
>>Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Frank
>
>
> The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting
> idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you
> start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to
> move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps
> the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp.
> Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't
> just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge
> too)
>
> Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca...
>
>>Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Frank
>
>
> The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting
> idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you
> start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to
> move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps
> the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp.
> Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't
> just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge
> too)
>
> Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:09 PM
#54
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:09 PM
#55
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:09 PM
#56
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:09 PM
#57
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Posts: n/a
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
you.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:17 PM
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
> you.
Oddly enough most auto trannies have a heater (of sorts). They run
fluid through the radiator and when you block the rad off to warm the
engine it will start warming tranny fluid.
It's the diffs that turn into jell-o. That and the transfer case.
I prefer simply to not be in that cold of an environment. :)
Of course the best part of being up where it's cold is the first
few miles of thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, till the tires
warm up and loose that flat spot.
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
>> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
>> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
>> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
> OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
> you.
Oddly enough most auto trannies have a heater (of sorts). They run
fluid through the radiator and when you block the rad off to warm the
engine it will start warming tranny fluid.
It's the diffs that turn into jell-o. That and the transfer case.
I prefer simply to not be in that cold of an environment. :)
Of course the best part of being up where it's cold is the first
few miles of thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, till the tires
warm up and loose that flat spot.
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
>> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
>> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
>> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:17 PM
#59
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
> you.
Oddly enough most auto trannies have a heater (of sorts). They run
fluid through the radiator and when you block the rad off to warm the
engine it will start warming tranny fluid.
It's the diffs that turn into jell-o. That and the transfer case.
I prefer simply to not be in that cold of an environment. :)
Of course the best part of being up where it's cold is the first
few miles of thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, till the tires
warm up and loose that flat spot.
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
>> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
>> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
>> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
> OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
> you.
Oddly enough most auto trannies have a heater (of sorts). They run
fluid through the radiator and when you block the rad off to warm the
engine it will start warming tranny fluid.
It's the diffs that turn into jell-o. That and the transfer case.
I prefer simply to not be in that cold of an environment. :)
Of course the best part of being up where it's cold is the first
few miles of thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, till the tires
warm up and loose that flat spot.
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
>> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
>> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
>> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
08-14-2004, 07:17 PM
#60
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Posts: n/a
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
L.W. (ßill) ------ III did pass the time by typing:
> OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
> you.
Oddly enough most auto trannies have a heater (of sorts). They run
fluid through the radiator and when you block the rad off to warm the
engine it will start warming tranny fluid.
It's the diffs that turn into jell-o. That and the transfer case.
I prefer simply to not be in that cold of an environment. :)
Of course the best part of being up where it's cold is the first
few miles of thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, till the tires
warm up and loose that flat spot.
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
>> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
>> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
>> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
> OK, the auto manufacturers put a transmission heater on just for
> you.
Oddly enough most auto trannies have a heater (of sorts). They run
fluid through the radiator and when you block the rad off to warm the
engine it will start warming tranny fluid.
It's the diffs that turn into jell-o. That and the transfer case.
I prefer simply to not be in that cold of an environment. :)
Of course the best part of being up where it's cold is the first
few miles of thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, thunka, till the tires
warm up and loose that flat spot.
> Lon wrote:
>>
>> 'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
>> warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
>> are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
>> taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
