Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Well, I like to keep my cars, without having to work on them, the
heads have never been off my '78 Bronco with over three hundred thousand
miles, nor '89 Thunderbird, with over two hundred and fifty thousand
miles.
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RoyJ wrote:
>
> Well, I've also seen over 200 truckers stalled in parking lots and
> beside the road in 800 miles of westbound I-80 because they were so
> cheap that they thought they could get by with #2 diesel in cold
> weather. And the truckers that left their engines running, they would
> stall on the on-ramps or 1/4 mile onto the freeway when the sludge they
> were burning hit the injectors. Nary a one on eastbound, guess those
> northern guys have more respect for their equipment. But what do I know
> about big trucks?
>
> As for FI automobile engines, 1500 rpm at 20 mph is just enough load to
> keep the engine from racing too fast under fast idle conditions.
heads have never been off my '78 Bronco with over three hundred thousand
miles, nor '89 Thunderbird, with over two hundred and fifty thousand
miles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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RoyJ wrote:
>
> Well, I've also seen over 200 truckers stalled in parking lots and
> beside the road in 800 miles of westbound I-80 because they were so
> cheap that they thought they could get by with #2 diesel in cold
> weather. And the truckers that left their engines running, they would
> stall on the on-ramps or 1/4 mile onto the freeway when the sludge they
> were burning hit the injectors. Nary a one on eastbound, guess those
> northern guys have more respect for their equipment. But what do I know
> about big trucks?
>
> As for FI automobile engines, 1500 rpm at 20 mph is just enough load to
> keep the engine from racing too fast under fast idle conditions.
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
>
>Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
>especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
>will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
-jeff
>Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
>especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
>will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
-jeff
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
>
>Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
>especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
>will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
-jeff
>Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
>especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
>will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
-jeff
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
>
>Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
>especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
>will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
-jeff
>Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
>especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
>will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
-jeff
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
>
>Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
>especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
>will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
-jeff
>Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
>especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
>will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
-jeff
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
The oil has two numbers.
The 0W is how thick it acts when cold. The 40 is how thick it acts when
hot.
The outside temperature has no real bearing on this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> >
> >Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> >especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> >will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
>
> OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
> of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
> could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
> most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
> Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
> elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
>
> -jeff
The 0W is how thick it acts when cold. The 40 is how thick it acts when
hot.
The outside temperature has no real bearing on this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> >
> >Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> >especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> >will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
>
> OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
> of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
> could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
> most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
> Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
> elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
>
> -jeff
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
The oil has two numbers.
The 0W is how thick it acts when cold. The 40 is how thick it acts when
hot.
The outside temperature has no real bearing on this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> >
> >Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> >especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> >will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
>
> OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
> of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
> could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
> most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
> Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
> elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
>
> -jeff
The 0W is how thick it acts when cold. The 40 is how thick it acts when
hot.
The outside temperature has no real bearing on this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> >
> >Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> >especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> >will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
>
> OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
> of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
> could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
> most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
> Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
> elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
>
> -jeff
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
The oil has two numbers.
The 0W is how thick it acts when cold. The 40 is how thick it acts when
hot.
The outside temperature has no real bearing on this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> >
> >Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> >especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> >will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
>
> OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
> of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
> could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
> most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
> Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
> elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
>
> -jeff
The 0W is how thick it acts when cold. The 40 is how thick it acts when
hot.
The outside temperature has no real bearing on this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> >
> >Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> >especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> >will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
>
> OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
> of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
> could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
> most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
> Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
> elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
>
> -jeff
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
The oil has two numbers.
The 0W is how thick it acts when cold. The 40 is how thick it acts when
hot.
The outside temperature has no real bearing on this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> >
> >Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> >especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> >will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
>
> OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
> of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
> could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
> most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
> Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
> elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
>
> -jeff
The 0W is how thick it acts when cold. The 40 is how thick it acts when
hot.
The outside temperature has no real bearing on this.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Handywired wrote:
>
> >
> >Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> >especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> >will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
>
> OK, then let me ask THIS: I'll be towing a small trailer with maybe 600 pounds
> of stuff in it up with me, and it's a 6-hour drive, and it's possible that it
> could even be fairly warm on the way up there. Last year it was probably 65 F
> most of the way up there; the cold weather did not hit until opening morning.
> Would 0w40 still be OK to have in the TJ for the long, mostly uphill drive TO
> elk camp, with the trailer in tow?
>
> -jeff
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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Fred W. proclaimed:
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca...
>
>>Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Frank
>
>
> The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting
> idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you
> start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to
> move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps
> the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp.
> Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't
> just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge
> too)
>
> Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca...
>
>>Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
>>Thanks in advance
>>Frank
>
>
> The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting
> idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you
> start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to
> move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps
> the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp.
> Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't
> just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge
> too)
>
> Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil,
> especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this
> will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil.
'nother issue is that if you idle the vehicle until the engine is
warmed up, your suspension, axles, transfer case, and transmission
are all still cold. Moving off right after the start and simply
taking it easy warms all the pieces up together.
