Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
08-24-2004, 05:03 PM
#11
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
While on the Landy topic this is a cool video that I ran across the other
day. About 10 megs of low quality, but cool to watch. Especially when the
windshield wipers come on
http://www.orc-grenzland.de/filme/u-bj42.mpg
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2yNWc.69$yj.1223834@news-text.cableinet.net...
> just to add a little about Landys:
>
> LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
> Rovers
> have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
> that
> was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
> Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
> the Dana 60).
> Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
> failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
> problems with them.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
>> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>>
>> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
>> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>>
>> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
>> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
>> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
>> reverse, etc...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
>> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
>> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
>> > forward and not reverse.
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
>> > importantly, for Jeeps?
>> >
>> > Bob
>
>
day. About 10 megs of low quality, but cool to watch. Especially when the
windshield wipers come on
http://www.orc-grenzland.de/filme/u-bj42.mpg
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2yNWc.69$yj.1223834@news-text.cableinet.net...
> just to add a little about Landys:
>
> LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
> Rovers
> have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
> that
> was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
> Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
> the Dana 60).
> Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
> failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
> problems with them.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
>> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>>
>> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
>> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>>
>> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
>> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
>> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
>> reverse, etc...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
>> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
>> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
>> > forward and not reverse.
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
>> > importantly, for Jeeps?
>> >
>> > Bob
>
>
08-24-2004, 05:03 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
While on the Landy topic this is a cool video that I ran across the other
day. About 10 megs of low quality, but cool to watch. Especially when the
windshield wipers come on
http://www.orc-grenzland.de/filme/u-bj42.mpg
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2yNWc.69$yj.1223834@news-text.cableinet.net...
> just to add a little about Landys:
>
> LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
> Rovers
> have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
> that
> was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
> Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
> the Dana 60).
> Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
> failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
> problems with them.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
>> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>>
>> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
>> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>>
>> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
>> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
>> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
>> reverse, etc...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
>> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
>> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
>> > forward and not reverse.
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
>> > importantly, for Jeeps?
>> >
>> > Bob
>
>
day. About 10 megs of low quality, but cool to watch. Especially when the
windshield wipers come on
http://www.orc-grenzland.de/filme/u-bj42.mpg
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2yNWc.69$yj.1223834@news-text.cableinet.net...
> just to add a little about Landys:
>
> LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
> Rovers
> have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
> that
> was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
> Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
> the Dana 60).
> Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
> failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
> problems with them.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
>> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>>
>> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
>> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>>
>> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
>> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
>> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
>> reverse, etc...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
>> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
>> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
>> > forward and not reverse.
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
>> > importantly, for Jeeps?
>> >
>> > Bob
>
>
08-24-2004, 05:03 PM
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
While on the Landy topic this is a cool video that I ran across the other
day. About 10 megs of low quality, but cool to watch. Especially when the
windshield wipers come on
http://www.orc-grenzland.de/filme/u-bj42.mpg
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2yNWc.69$yj.1223834@news-text.cableinet.net...
> just to add a little about Landys:
>
> LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
> Rovers
> have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
> that
> was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
> Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
> the Dana 60).
> Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
> failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
> problems with them.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
>> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>>
>> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
>> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>>
>> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
>> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
>> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
>> reverse, etc...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
>> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
>> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
>> > forward and not reverse.
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
>> > importantly, for Jeeps?
>> >
>> > Bob
>
>
day. About 10 megs of low quality, but cool to watch. Especially when the
windshield wipers come on
http://www.orc-grenzland.de/filme/u-bj42.mpg
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:2yNWc.69$yj.1223834@news-text.cableinet.net...
> just to add a little about Landys:
>
> LandRover diffs are much stronger than Jeep ones - even the small Land
> Rovers
> have a 9" ring gear. Ok, I have to admit I broke one when a teenager, but
> that
> was probably due to me abusing it. Some of the bigger ones came with a
> Salisbury rear axle (probably more familiar to you as an early version of
> the Dana 60).
> Landy gearboxes have pretty well always been weak and prone to outright
> failure. Still are, I think. Transfer cases - I have never heard any
> problems with them.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:412B96E8.2895522B@sympatico.ca...
>> Generally that is correct 'they say'.
>>
>> The gears are broken in in the forward direction and they are generally
>> cut so they mesh stronger in a forward direction I think.
>>
>> That said, the only time I have broken things is pulling forward and 99%
>> of the pulls I see and do are in the reverse direction. Winches are on
>> the front, so if I am extracting anyone else it has to be done in
>> reverse, etc...
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Bob wrote:
>> >
>> > A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
>> > one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
>> > gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
>> > forward and not reverse.
>> >
>> > Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
>> > importantly, for Jeeps?
>> >
>> > Bob
>
>
08-24-2004, 05:27 PM
#14
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
I wouldn't worry about it, they even sell a reverse cut for the
rear, pictured is for a TJ:
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ima...ndsFrontV2.gif
Most of us run around with a regular rear end differentials for our
front axle, that of course are running backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
rear, pictured is for a TJ:
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ima...ndsFrontV2.gif
Most of us run around with a regular rear end differentials for our
front axle, that of course are running backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004, 05:27 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
I wouldn't worry about it, they even sell a reverse cut for the
rear, pictured is for a TJ:
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ima...ndsFrontV2.gif
Most of us run around with a regular rear end differentials for our
front axle, that of course are running backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
rear, pictured is for a TJ:
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ima...ndsFrontV2.gif
Most of us run around with a regular rear end differentials for our
front axle, that of course are running backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004, 05:27 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
I wouldn't worry about it, they even sell a reverse cut for the
rear, pictured is for a TJ:
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ima...ndsFrontV2.gif
Most of us run around with a regular rear end differentials for our
front axle, that of course are running backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
rear, pictured is for a TJ:
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ima...ndsFrontV2.gif
Most of us run around with a regular rear end differentials for our
front axle, that of course are running backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004, 05:27 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
I wouldn't worry about it, they even sell a reverse cut for the
rear, pictured is for a TJ:
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ima...ndsFrontV2.gif
Most of us run around with a regular rear end differentials for our
front axle, that of course are running backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
rear, pictured is for a TJ:
http://www.currieenterprises.com/ima...ndsFrontV2.gif
Most of us run around with a regular rear end differentials for our
front axle, that of course are running backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob wrote:
>
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004, 05:36 PM
#18
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
That's very definitely true. The ring & pinion gears are definitely
stronger when running in one direction vs. the other.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Bob" <DaBobzz@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e154f2a0.0408241057.4dd7c133@posting.google.c om...
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
stronger when running in one direction vs. the other.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Bob" <DaBobzz@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e154f2a0.0408241057.4dd7c133@posting.google.c om...
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004, 05:36 PM
#19
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
That's very definitely true. The ring & pinion gears are definitely
stronger when running in one direction vs. the other.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Bob" <DaBobzz@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e154f2a0.0408241057.4dd7c133@posting.google.c om...
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
stronger when running in one direction vs. the other.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Bob" <DaBobzz@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e154f2a0.0408241057.4dd7c133@posting.google.c om...
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
08-24-2004, 05:36 PM
#20
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Re: Vehicle Recovery in Reverse Gear?
That's very definitely true. The ring & pinion gears are definitely
stronger when running in one direction vs. the other.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Bob" <DaBobzz@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e154f2a0.0408241057.4dd7c133@posting.google.c om...
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob
stronger when running in one direction vs. the other.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Bob" <DaBobzz@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:e154f2a0.0408241057.4dd7c133@posting.google.c om...
> A guy I know has a Land Rover Defender, and he says that when using
> one vehicle to rescue another vehicle it is important to be in forward
> gear. He says vehicles are designed to take that kind of stress in
> forward and not reverse.
>
> Anyone know if that is really true for Land Rovers? Or, more
> importantly, for Jeeps?
>
> Bob