Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
#51
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Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
as the spark made burns.
I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
Mike
Joe and Joann wrote:
>
> Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> Aloha
> Joe
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
> > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
> > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
> > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > country with the cap in another....
> >
> > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
> > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> >
> > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
> > years after a cap change.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
> >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
> >>about a 3 months old.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> >>>
as the spark made burns.
I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
Mike
Joe and Joann wrote:
>
> Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> Aloha
> Joe
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
> > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
> > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
> > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > country with the cap in another....
> >
> > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
> > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> >
> > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
> > years after a cap change.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
> >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
> >>about a 3 months old.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> >>>
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
as the spark made burns.
I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
Mike
Joe and Joann wrote:
>
> Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> Aloha
> Joe
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
> > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
> > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
> > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > country with the cap in another....
> >
> > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
> > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> >
> > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
> > years after a cap change.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
> >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
> >>about a 3 months old.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> >>>
as the spark made burns.
I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
Mike
Joe and Joann wrote:
>
> Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> Aloha
> Joe
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
> > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
> > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
> > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > country with the cap in another....
> >
> > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
> > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> >
> > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
> > years after a cap change.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
> >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
> >>about a 3 months old.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> >>>
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
as the spark made burns.
I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
Mike
Joe and Joann wrote:
>
> Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> Aloha
> Joe
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
> > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
> > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
> > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > country with the cap in another....
> >
> > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
> > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> >
> > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
> > years after a cap change.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
> >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
> >>about a 3 months old.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> >>>
as the spark made burns.
I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
Mike
Joe and Joann wrote:
>
> Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> Aloha
> Joe
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
> > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
> > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
> > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > country with the cap in another....
> >
> > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
> > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> >
> > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
> > years after a cap change.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
> >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
> >>about a 3 months old.
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> >>>
#54
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Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
I am getting a case of déjà vu here. Fall of 1978 we noticed in the Dodge
service department where I was working, that Chrysler Corporation was
shipping a new type of rotor, that was about 2 mm shorter than the old type.
This was supposed to fit in the same distributor cap as the older type. It
appeared in new vehicles and in replacement parts both. There was no
service bulletin, or other indication of what this new rotor was supposed to
do, except perhaps make your car run worse. A couple of us made sure that
our favorite customers got the old type rotor. No doubt, we were messing
with some pollution control and breaking innumerable federal regulations,
but I suppose that the statute of limitations is over for that now. They
wouldn't be able to prove it anyway.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42FD5EE7.E15BF04B@sympatico.ca...
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> > Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> > problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> > gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> > to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> > immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> > it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> > Aloha
> > Joe
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a
strong
> > > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it
was
> > > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but
I
> > > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > > country with the cap in another....
> > >
> > > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long
measures
> > > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> > >
> > > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over
the
> > > years after a cap change.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe and Joann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout
a
> > >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old,
plugs
> > >>about a 3 months old.
> > >>
> > >>Mike Romain wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> > >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> > >>>
service department where I was working, that Chrysler Corporation was
shipping a new type of rotor, that was about 2 mm shorter than the old type.
This was supposed to fit in the same distributor cap as the older type. It
appeared in new vehicles and in replacement parts both. There was no
service bulletin, or other indication of what this new rotor was supposed to
do, except perhaps make your car run worse. A couple of us made sure that
our favorite customers got the old type rotor. No doubt, we were messing
with some pollution control and breaking innumerable federal regulations,
but I suppose that the statute of limitations is over for that now. They
wouldn't be able to prove it anyway.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42FD5EE7.E15BF04B@sympatico.ca...
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> > Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> > problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> > gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> > to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> > immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> > it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> > Aloha
> > Joe
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a
strong
> > > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it
was
> > > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but
I
> > > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > > country with the cap in another....
> > >
> > > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long
measures
> > > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> > >
> > > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over
the
> > > years after a cap change.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe and Joann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout
a
> > >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old,
plugs
> > >>about a 3 months old.
> > >>
> > >>Mike Romain wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> > >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> > >>>
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
I am getting a case of déjà vu here. Fall of 1978 we noticed in the Dodge
service department where I was working, that Chrysler Corporation was
shipping a new type of rotor, that was about 2 mm shorter than the old type.
This was supposed to fit in the same distributor cap as the older type. It
appeared in new vehicles and in replacement parts both. There was no
service bulletin, or other indication of what this new rotor was supposed to
do, except perhaps make your car run worse. A couple of us made sure that
our favorite customers got the old type rotor. No doubt, we were messing
with some pollution control and breaking innumerable federal regulations,
but I suppose that the statute of limitations is over for that now. They
wouldn't be able to prove it anyway.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42FD5EE7.E15BF04B@sympatico.ca...
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> > Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> > problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> > gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> > to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> > immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> > it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> > Aloha
> > Joe
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a
strong
> > > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it
was
> > > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but
I
> > > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > > country with the cap in another....
> > >
> > > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long
measures
> > > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> > >
> > > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over
the
> > > years after a cap change.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe and Joann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout
a
> > >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old,
plugs
> > >>about a 3 months old.
> > >>
> > >>Mike Romain wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> > >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> > >>>
service department where I was working, that Chrysler Corporation was
shipping a new type of rotor, that was about 2 mm shorter than the old type.
This was supposed to fit in the same distributor cap as the older type. It
appeared in new vehicles and in replacement parts both. There was no
service bulletin, or other indication of what this new rotor was supposed to
do, except perhaps make your car run worse. A couple of us made sure that
our favorite customers got the old type rotor. No doubt, we were messing
with some pollution control and breaking innumerable federal regulations,
but I suppose that the statute of limitations is over for that now. They
wouldn't be able to prove it anyway.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42FD5EE7.E15BF04B@sympatico.ca...
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> > Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> > problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> > gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> > to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> > immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> > it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> > Aloha
> > Joe
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a
strong
> > > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it
was
> > > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but
I
> > > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > > country with the cap in another....
> > >
> > > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long
measures
> > > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> > >
> > > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over
the
> > > years after a cap change.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe and Joann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout
a
> > >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old,
plugs
> > >>about a 3 months old.
> > >>
> > >>Mike Romain wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> > >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> > >>>
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
I am getting a case of déjà vu here. Fall of 1978 we noticed in the Dodge
service department where I was working, that Chrysler Corporation was
shipping a new type of rotor, that was about 2 mm shorter than the old type.
This was supposed to fit in the same distributor cap as the older type. It
appeared in new vehicles and in replacement parts both. There was no
service bulletin, or other indication of what this new rotor was supposed to
do, except perhaps make your car run worse. A couple of us made sure that
our favorite customers got the old type rotor. No doubt, we were messing
with some pollution control and breaking innumerable federal regulations,
but I suppose that the statute of limitations is over for that now. They
wouldn't be able to prove it anyway.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42FD5EE7.E15BF04B@sympatico.ca...
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> > Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> > problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> > gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> > to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> > immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> > it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> > Aloha
> > Joe
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a
strong
> > > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it
was
> > > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but
I
> > > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > > country with the cap in another....
> > >
> > > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long
measures
> > > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> > >
> > > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over
the
> > > years after a cap change.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe and Joann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout
a
> > >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old,
plugs
> > >>about a 3 months old.
> > >>
> > >>Mike Romain wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> > >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> > >>>
service department where I was working, that Chrysler Corporation was
shipping a new type of rotor, that was about 2 mm shorter than the old type.
This was supposed to fit in the same distributor cap as the older type. It
appeared in new vehicles and in replacement parts both. There was no
service bulletin, or other indication of what this new rotor was supposed to
do, except perhaps make your car run worse. A couple of us made sure that
our favorite customers got the old type rotor. No doubt, we were messing
with some pollution control and breaking innumerable federal regulations,
but I suppose that the statute of limitations is over for that now. They
wouldn't be able to prove it anyway.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42FD5EE7.E15BF04B@sympatico.ca...
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> > Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> > problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> > gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> > to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> > immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> > it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> > Aloha
> > Joe
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a
strong
> > > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it
was
> > > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but
I
> > > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > > country with the cap in another....
> > >
> > > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long
measures
> > > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> > >
> > > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over
the
> > > years after a cap change.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe and Joann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout
a
> > >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old,
plugs
> > >>about a 3 months old.
> > >>
> > >>Mike Romain wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> > >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> > >>>
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
I am getting a case of déjà vu here. Fall of 1978 we noticed in the Dodge
service department where I was working, that Chrysler Corporation was
shipping a new type of rotor, that was about 2 mm shorter than the old type.
This was supposed to fit in the same distributor cap as the older type. It
appeared in new vehicles and in replacement parts both. There was no
service bulletin, or other indication of what this new rotor was supposed to
do, except perhaps make your car run worse. A couple of us made sure that
our favorite customers got the old type rotor. No doubt, we were messing
with some pollution control and breaking innumerable federal regulations,
but I suppose that the statute of limitations is over for that now. They
wouldn't be able to prove it anyway.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42FD5EE7.E15BF04B@sympatico.ca...
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> > Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> > problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> > gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> > to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> > immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> > it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> > Aloha
> > Joe
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a
strong
> > > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it
was
> > > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but
I
> > > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > > country with the cap in another....
> > >
> > > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long
measures
> > > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> > >
> > > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over
the
> > > years after a cap change.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe and Joann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout
a
> > >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old,
plugs
> > >>about a 3 months old.
> > >>
> > >>Mike Romain wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> > >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> > >>>
service department where I was working, that Chrysler Corporation was
shipping a new type of rotor, that was about 2 mm shorter than the old type.
This was supposed to fit in the same distributor cap as the older type. It
appeared in new vehicles and in replacement parts both. There was no
service bulletin, or other indication of what this new rotor was supposed to
do, except perhaps make your car run worse. A couple of us made sure that
our favorite customers got the old type rotor. No doubt, we were messing
with some pollution control and breaking innumerable federal regulations,
but I suppose that the statute of limitations is over for that now. They
wouldn't be able to prove it anyway.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42FD5EE7.E15BF04B@sympatico.ca...
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
> >
> > Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
> > problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
> > gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
> > to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
> > immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
> > it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
> > Aloha
> > Joe
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
> > > past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a
strong
> > > spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it
was
> > > arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but
I
> > > have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
> > > country with the cap in another....
> > >
> > > You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
> > > 'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long
measures
> > > 'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
> > > would start by comparing the coil wire.
> > >
> > > I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over
the
> > > years after a cap change.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe and Joann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout
a
> > >>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old,
plugs
> > >>about a 3 months old.
> > >>
> > >>Mike Romain wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
> > >>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
> > >>>
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
So far so good for the hot starting problem. Still have gas smell after
stopping however. Will keep searching for that. Mahalo (thanks) to all
for the Jeep assistance and the computer assistance.
Aloha
Joe in Maui
Mike Romain wrote:
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
>
>>Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
>>problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
>>gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
>>to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
>>immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
>>it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
>>Aloha
>>Joe
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
>>>past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
>>>spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
>>>arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
>>>have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
>>>country with the cap in another....
>>>
>>>You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
>>>'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
>>>'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
>>>would start by comparing the coil wire.
>>>
>>>I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
>>>years after a cap change.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Joe and Joann wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
>>>>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
>>>>about a 3 months old.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
>>>>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
>>>>>
stopping however. Will keep searching for that. Mahalo (thanks) to all
for the Jeep assistance and the computer assistance.
Aloha
Joe in Maui
Mike Romain wrote:
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
>
>>Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
>>problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
>>gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
>>to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
>>immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
>>it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
>>Aloha
>>Joe
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
>>>past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
>>>spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
>>>arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
>>>have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
>>>country with the cap in another....
>>>
>>>You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
>>>'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
>>>'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
>>>would start by comparing the coil wire.
>>>
>>>I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
>>>years after a cap change.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Joe and Joann wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
>>>>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
>>>>about a 3 months old.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
>>>>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
>>>>>
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
So far so good for the hot starting problem. Still have gas smell after
stopping however. Will keep searching for that. Mahalo (thanks) to all
for the Jeep assistance and the computer assistance.
Aloha
Joe in Maui
Mike Romain wrote:
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
>
>>Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
>>problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
>>gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
>>to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
>>immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
>>it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
>>Aloha
>>Joe
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
>>>past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
>>>spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
>>>arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
>>>have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
>>>country with the cap in another....
>>>
>>>You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
>>>'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
>>>'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
>>>would start by comparing the coil wire.
>>>
>>>I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
>>>years after a cap change.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Joe and Joann wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
>>>>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
>>>>about a 3 months old.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
>>>>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
>>>>>
stopping however. Will keep searching for that. Mahalo (thanks) to all
for the Jeep assistance and the computer assistance.
Aloha
Joe in Maui
Mike Romain wrote:
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
>
>>Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
>>problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
>>gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
>>to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
>>immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
>>it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
>>Aloha
>>Joe
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
>>>past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
>>>spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
>>>arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
>>>have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
>>>country with the cap in another....
>>>
>>>You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
>>>'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
>>>'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
>>>would start by comparing the coil wire.
>>>
>>>I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
>>>years after a cap change.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Joe and Joann wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
>>>>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
>>>>about a 3 months old.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
>>>>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
>>>>>
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Vapor Canister for '90 YJ
So far so good for the hot starting problem. Still have gas smell after
stopping however. Will keep searching for that. Mahalo (thanks) to all
for the Jeep assistance and the computer assistance.
Aloha
Joe in Maui
Mike Romain wrote:
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
>
>>Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
>>problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
>>gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
>>to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
>>immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
>>it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
>>Aloha
>>Joe
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
>>>past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
>>>spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
>>>arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
>>>have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
>>>country with the cap in another....
>>>
>>>You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
>>>'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
>>>'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
>>>would start by comparing the coil wire.
>>>
>>>I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
>>>years after a cap change.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Joe and Joann wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
>>>>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
>>>>about a 3 months old.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
>>>>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
>>>>>
stopping however. Will keep searching for that. Mahalo (thanks) to all
for the Jeep assistance and the computer assistance.
Aloha
Joe in Maui
Mike Romain wrote:
> Cool, hope that is it. Mine acted like you describe and got worse fast
> as the spark made burns.
>
> I guess I will find out Tuesday when I get back from bush running. We
> are taking off for 4 days later tonight.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe and Joann wrote:
>
>>Wow Mike, you da man! Actually I don't know yet if it solved the
>>problem, but I did have a significantly undersized rotor leaving a big
>>gap. Two different NAPA stores. I put the old rotor and cap back on just
>>to be safe. I will do some more testing to see what happens. Its not
>>immediately obvious cause it always took a bit longer to start when hot,
>>it just got a lot worse. Will let you know what I find out.
>>Aloha
>>Joe
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Hmmm.... You know I have gotten mis matched cap and rotor sets in the
>>>past. The rotor was too short so it had to arc way too far for a strong
>>>spark. I don't think that set lasted a week before I figured out it was
>>>arcing out inside. That was an Accel 'performance' cap and rotor but I
>>>have heard of the regular ones coming that way too. Rotor made in one
>>>country with the cap in another....
>>>
>>>You also can take an ohm meter on the plug wires. They are all even
>>>'per foot' in resistance. So if #3 which is about a foot long measures
>>>'say' 100 ohms, then #1 which is twice as long should measure 200. I
>>>would start by comparing the coil wire.
>>>
>>>I also have seen plug wire ends come loose 'way too many times' over the
>>>years after a cap change.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Joe and Joann wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Distributor cap and rotor replaced as part of normal maintenenceabout a
>>>>few days before I noticed this problem . Plug wires are 7 Yrs Old, plugs
>>>>about a 3 months old.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How is the distributor cap and rotor? Mine eats them up. They get a
>>>>>bit of dirt or dust in them and arc out easy.
>>>>>