Aloha all
There has been some new developments. It seems that now the Jeep is very
hard to start (requires much cranking) after it has been driven and then
sits for a while. When it starts it runs very rough and the gas smell is
strong. Seems like it was flooded. It doesn't seem to matter if the
throttle is open or closed. It has always been a bit hard to start when
hot after driving, but nothing like this.

99% of the time it starts fine at first morning start. But once in a
while it will start but runs very rough for a few seconds.

Driving is all fine. I have checked the choke and the choke heater. All
seem to be working fine. Could a bad choke unloader be doing anything to
cause the bad initial morning start.

My suspicions have switched to a bad float or float valve possibly
causing the flooding and gas smell...at least for the warm start problem.

Any more thoughts?

By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
Aloha
Joe in Maui







remove wrote:
> I have been smelling gas fumes from my 90 YJ wrangler 4.2 L engine.
> Since I don't see any visible leaks anywhere, I suspect maybe the
> charcoal vapor canister may have died. The only problem is that
> chryslerparts.com says their system shows that this part is no longer
> available and no dealer inventory was found. Any ideas for a source for
> this thing. Could it possibly be just the replaceable filter element
> causing the problem.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui

 

Aloha all
There has been some new developments. It seems that now the Jeep is very
hard to start (requires much cranking) after it has been driven and then
sits for a while. When it starts it runs very rough and the gas smell is
strong. Seems like it was flooded. It doesn't seem to matter if the
throttle is open or closed. It has always been a bit hard to start when
hot after driving, but nothing like this.

99% of the time it starts fine at first morning start. But once in a
while it will start but runs very rough for a few seconds.

Driving is all fine. I have checked the choke and the choke heater. All
seem to be working fine. Could a bad choke unloader be doing anything to
cause the bad initial morning start.

My suspicions have switched to a bad float or float valve possibly
causing the flooding and gas smell...at least for the warm start problem.

Any more thoughts?

By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
Aloha
Joe in Maui







remove wrote:
> I have been smelling gas fumes from my 90 YJ wrangler 4.2 L engine.
> Since I don't see any visible leaks anywhere, I suspect maybe the
> charcoal vapor canister may have died. The only problem is that
> chryslerparts.com says their system shows that this part is no longer
> available and no dealer inventory was found. Any ideas for a source for
> this thing. Could it possibly be just the replaceable filter element
> causing the problem.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui

 

Aloha all
There has been some new developments. It seems that now the Jeep is very
hard to start (requires much cranking) after it has been driven and then
sits for a while. When it starts it runs very rough and the gas smell is
strong. Seems like it was flooded. It doesn't seem to matter if the
throttle is open or closed. It has always been a bit hard to start when
hot after driving, but nothing like this.

99% of the time it starts fine at first morning start. But once in a
while it will start but runs very rough for a few seconds.

Driving is all fine. I have checked the choke and the choke heater. All
seem to be working fine. Could a bad choke unloader be doing anything to
cause the bad initial morning start.

My suspicions have switched to a bad float or float valve possibly
causing the flooding and gas smell...at least for the warm start problem.

Any more thoughts?

By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
Aloha
Joe in Maui







remove wrote:
> I have been smelling gas fumes from my 90 YJ wrangler 4.2 L engine.
> Since I don't see any visible leaks anywhere, I suspect maybe the
> charcoal vapor canister may have died. The only problem is that
> chryslerparts.com says their system shows that this part is no longer
> available and no dealer inventory was found. Any ideas for a source for
> this thing. Could it possibly be just the replaceable filter element
> causing the problem.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui

 

Yup, that is a definite sign of a busted gas line on the suction side of
the pump like I mentioned in my other post to you.

I would look carefully where the steel lines hook to the flexible lines
for a leak.

The line is a suction line, so it doesn't drip out on the ground unless
really bad, but it air locks the gas line when it sits.

Now it sounds bad enough to suck air when it runs....

Hard to start when hot after driving usually means someone has put the
gas filter in upside down or sideways. It has two lines coming out.
The Center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the return
line. If the return line isn't at the top and is on the side or bottom,
the gas can syphon back to the gas tank when hot or when it sits.

If the return line is blocked or missing, then the hot start issue is
vapor lock. The return line is there to prevent this.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

remove wrote:
>
> Aloha all
> There has been some new developments. It seems that now the Jeep is very
> hard to start (requires much cranking) after it has been driven and then
> sits for a while. When it starts it runs very rough and the gas smell is
> strong. Seems like it was flooded. It doesn't seem to matter if the
> throttle is open or closed. It has always been a bit hard to start when
> hot after driving, but nothing like this.
>
> 99% of the time it starts fine at first morning start. But once in a
> while it will start but runs very rough for a few seconds.
>
> Driving is all fine. I have checked the choke and the choke heater. All
> seem to be working fine. Could a bad choke unloader be doing anything to
> cause the bad initial morning start.
>
> My suspicions have switched to a bad float or float valve possibly
> causing the flooding and gas smell...at least for the warm start problem.
>
> Any more thoughts?
>
> By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
> thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
> remove wrote:
> > I have been smelling gas fumes from my 90 YJ wrangler 4.2 L engine.
> > Since I don't see any visible leaks anywhere, I suspect maybe the
> > charcoal vapor canister may have died. The only problem is that
> > chryslerparts.com says their system shows that this part is no longer
> > available and no dealer inventory was found. Any ideas for a source for
> > this thing. Could it possibly be just the replaceable filter element
> > causing the problem.
> > Aloha
> > Joe in Maui

 

Yup, that is a definite sign of a busted gas line on the suction side of
the pump like I mentioned in my other post to you.

I would look carefully where the steel lines hook to the flexible lines
for a leak.

The line is a suction line, so it doesn't drip out on the ground unless
really bad, but it air locks the gas line when it sits.

Now it sounds bad enough to suck air when it runs....

Hard to start when hot after driving usually means someone has put the
gas filter in upside down or sideways. It has two lines coming out.
The Center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the return
line. If the return line isn't at the top and is on the side or bottom,
the gas can syphon back to the gas tank when hot or when it sits.

If the return line is blocked or missing, then the hot start issue is
vapor lock. The return line is there to prevent this.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

remove wrote:
>
> Aloha all
> There has been some new developments. It seems that now the Jeep is very
> hard to start (requires much cranking) after it has been driven and then
> sits for a while. When it starts it runs very rough and the gas smell is
> strong. Seems like it was flooded. It doesn't seem to matter if the
> throttle is open or closed. It has always been a bit hard to start when
> hot after driving, but nothing like this.
>
> 99% of the time it starts fine at first morning start. But once in a
> while it will start but runs very rough for a few seconds.
>
> Driving is all fine. I have checked the choke and the choke heater. All
> seem to be working fine. Could a bad choke unloader be doing anything to
> cause the bad initial morning start.
>
> My suspicions have switched to a bad float or float valve possibly
> causing the flooding and gas smell...at least for the warm start problem.
>
> Any more thoughts?
>
> By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
> thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
> remove wrote:
> > I have been smelling gas fumes from my 90 YJ wrangler 4.2 L engine.
> > Since I don't see any visible leaks anywhere, I suspect maybe the
> > charcoal vapor canister may have died. The only problem is that
> > chryslerparts.com says their system shows that this part is no longer
> > available and no dealer inventory was found. Any ideas for a source for
> > this thing. Could it possibly be just the replaceable filter element
> > causing the problem.
> > Aloha
> > Joe in Maui

 

Yup, that is a definite sign of a busted gas line on the suction side of
the pump like I mentioned in my other post to you.

I would look carefully where the steel lines hook to the flexible lines
for a leak.

The line is a suction line, so it doesn't drip out on the ground unless
really bad, but it air locks the gas line when it sits.

Now it sounds bad enough to suck air when it runs....

Hard to start when hot after driving usually means someone has put the
gas filter in upside down or sideways. It has two lines coming out.
The Center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the return
line. If the return line isn't at the top and is on the side or bottom,
the gas can syphon back to the gas tank when hot or when it sits.

If the return line is blocked or missing, then the hot start issue is
vapor lock. The return line is there to prevent this.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

remove wrote:
>
> Aloha all
> There has been some new developments. It seems that now the Jeep is very
> hard to start (requires much cranking) after it has been driven and then
> sits for a while. When it starts it runs very rough and the gas smell is
> strong. Seems like it was flooded. It doesn't seem to matter if the
> throttle is open or closed. It has always been a bit hard to start when
> hot after driving, but nothing like this.
>
> 99% of the time it starts fine at first morning start. But once in a
> while it will start but runs very rough for a few seconds.
>
> Driving is all fine. I have checked the choke and the choke heater. All
> seem to be working fine. Could a bad choke unloader be doing anything to
> cause the bad initial morning start.
>
> My suspicions have switched to a bad float or float valve possibly
> causing the flooding and gas smell...at least for the warm start problem.
>
> Any more thoughts?
>
> By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
> thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
> remove wrote:
> > I have been smelling gas fumes from my 90 YJ wrangler 4.2 L engine.
> > Since I don't see any visible leaks anywhere, I suspect maybe the
> > charcoal vapor canister may have died. The only problem is that
> > chryslerparts.com says their system shows that this part is no longer
> > available and no dealer inventory was found. Any ideas for a source for
> > this thing. Could it possibly be just the replaceable filter element
> > causing the problem.
> > Aloha
> > Joe in Maui

 

Yup, that is a definite sign of a busted gas line on the suction side of
the pump like I mentioned in my other post to you.

I would look carefully where the steel lines hook to the flexible lines
for a leak.

The line is a suction line, so it doesn't drip out on the ground unless
really bad, but it air locks the gas line when it sits.

Now it sounds bad enough to suck air when it runs....

Hard to start when hot after driving usually means someone has put the
gas filter in upside down or sideways. It has two lines coming out.
The Center one goes to the carb and the top one goes to the return
line. If the return line isn't at the top and is on the side or bottom,
the gas can syphon back to the gas tank when hot or when it sits.

If the return line is blocked or missing, then the hot start issue is
vapor lock. The return line is there to prevent this.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

remove wrote:
>
> Aloha all
> There has been some new developments. It seems that now the Jeep is very
> hard to start (requires much cranking) after it has been driven and then
> sits for a while. When it starts it runs very rough and the gas smell is
> strong. Seems like it was flooded. It doesn't seem to matter if the
> throttle is open or closed. It has always been a bit hard to start when
> hot after driving, but nothing like this.
>
> 99% of the time it starts fine at first morning start. But once in a
> while it will start but runs very rough for a few seconds.
>
> Driving is all fine. I have checked the choke and the choke heater. All
> seem to be working fine. Could a bad choke unloader be doing anything to
> cause the bad initial morning start.
>
> My suspicions have switched to a bad float or float valve possibly
> causing the flooding and gas smell...at least for the warm start problem.
>
> Any more thoughts?
>
> By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
> thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>
> remove wrote:
> > I have been smelling gas fumes from my 90 YJ wrangler 4.2 L engine.
> > Since I don't see any visible leaks anywhere, I suspect maybe the
> > charcoal vapor canister may have died. The only problem is that
> > chryslerparts.com says their system shows that this part is no longer
> > available and no dealer inventory was found. Any ideas for a source for
> > this thing. Could it possibly be just the replaceable filter element
> > causing the problem.
> > Aloha
> > Joe in Maui

 

Joe,

On the tool bar above select TOOLS, then select ACCOUNTS, then highlight
your account and then select PROPERTIES.

You will probably find your name is entered as 'remove'.

You probably intended to include 'remove' in your e-mail address to fool
e-address mining programs.

For example:
If you look at my e-address you will see it is Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net If
you remove the 'SPAM' then you have my e-address. If you need a screen
print of the setup just let me know...

I can't help you on your vapor cannister but there are a number of good
mechanics on-line here who can.

Welcome to RAMJ+W !





> By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
> thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>

 

Joe,

On the tool bar above select TOOLS, then select ACCOUNTS, then highlight
your account and then select PROPERTIES.

You will probably find your name is entered as 'remove'.

You probably intended to include 'remove' in your e-mail address to fool
e-address mining programs.

For example:
If you look at my e-address you will see it is Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net If
you remove the 'SPAM' then you have my e-address. If you need a screen
print of the setup just let me know...

I can't help you on your vapor cannister but there are a number of good
mechanics on-line here who can.

Welcome to RAMJ+W !





> By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
> thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>

 

Joe,

On the tool bar above select TOOLS, then select ACCOUNTS, then highlight
your account and then select PROPERTIES.

You will probably find your name is entered as 'remove'.

You probably intended to include 'remove' in your e-mail address to fool
e-address mining programs.

For example:
If you look at my e-address you will see it is Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net If
you remove the 'SPAM' then you have my e-address. If you need a screen
print of the setup just let me know...

I can't help you on your vapor cannister but there are a number of good
mechanics on-line here who can.

Welcome to RAMJ+W !





> By the way, this is a new computer and I haven't yet figured out why it
> thinks my name is remove. Sorry about that.
> Aloha
> Joe in Maui
>