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Jon 10-25-2007 06:37 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so
kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this
"minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered
race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of
rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good
driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two
powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's
talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it,
too, a grocery getter - just from AMC?

Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque
rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler....


Jon


Jon 10-25-2007 06:37 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so
kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this
"minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered
race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of
rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good
driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two
powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's
talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it,
too, a grocery getter - just from AMC?

Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque
rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler....


Jon


Jon 10-25-2007 06:37 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so
kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this
"minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered
race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of
rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good
driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two
powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's
talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it,
too, a grocery getter - just from AMC?

Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque
rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler....


Jon


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-25-2007 06:47 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
How is it that you can be so...... STUPID and still live, come on
Darwin!!!!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.25.19.29.17.576970@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> You don't know what a target is?
>
> And you claim to have a CCW? (temporarily, if at all)
>
> Ask a child about 7-years-old what a target is, and they'll explain it to
> you in language you'll almost be able to comprehend.
>
> BTW, do you know what a 'barn-door' is? You should since you were whelped
> behind one.
>
> [phr gur erthyne ebhgvar]
>
> --




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-25-2007 06:47 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
How is it that you can be so...... STUPID and still live, come on
Darwin!!!!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.25.19.29.17.576970@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> You don't know what a target is?
>
> And you claim to have a CCW? (temporarily, if at all)
>
> Ask a child about 7-years-old what a target is, and they'll explain it to
> you in language you'll almost be able to comprehend.
>
> BTW, do you know what a 'barn-door' is? You should since you were whelped
> behind one.
>
> [phr gur erthyne ebhgvar]
>
> --




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-25-2007 06:47 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
How is it that you can be so...... STUPID and still live, come on
Darwin!!!!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.25.19.29.17.576970@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> You don't know what a target is?
>
> And you claim to have a CCW? (temporarily, if at all)
>
> Ask a child about 7-years-old what a target is, and they'll explain it to
> you in language you'll almost be able to comprehend.
>
> BTW, do you know what a 'barn-door' is? You should since you were whelped
> behind one.
>
> [phr gur erthyne ebhgvar]
>
> --




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-25-2007 06:49 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for
magazine would print.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>
> It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally
> made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that
> some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty
> happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ
> rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and
> the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was
> organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the
> cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just
> from the flexing!
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-25-2007 06:49 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for
magazine would print.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>
> It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally
> made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that
> some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty
> happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ
> rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and
> the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was
> organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the
> cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just
> from the flexing!
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-25-2007 06:49 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
Cool. Let us know the real outcome. Not what a bought and paid for
magazine would print.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"nrs" <neale_rs@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1193351380.205139.269050@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>
> It could be lying but supposedly it is a chart that is not generally
> made available to the public. Who knows? What I can say is that
> some local guys who had Yjs and TJs and then bought JKs are pretty
> happy with them. A shootout was organized locally to test the TJ
> rubicon and the JK rubicon on the same day, same obstacles, etc and
> the JK was declared to be the clear winner. Another shootout was
> organized to compare the TJ rubicon with a Toyota FJ cruiser and the
> cruiser had to abort because the control arms were getting bent just
> from the flexing!
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 10-25-2007 07:09 PM

Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
 
Sucker.
But the fifty pound flywheel like used on the Buick V6 to allow it to
idle did have a secondary advantage of storing inertia energy. Your V6 won't
have it as also eats gasoline. But you may buy them for the wimpy four
bangers. And of course we all know of the go quick small block, thirteen
pound wheel, and it's rough idle.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193351840.169021.31780@y42g2000hsy.googlegro ups.com...
> What total garbage -- particularly in light of the chart NRS was so
> kind to link. The preceding posts make it sound like comparing this
> "minivan" motor to the I-6 is akin to comparing a wicked, ill-tempered
> race motor and its street counterpart. So we've lost a bit of
> rotational inertia from the engine -- I'd put my money on a good
> driver any day over the _grand_ difference between these two
> powerplants. ...garage equivalent of armchair semantics...so let's
> talk about that really butch 4.0/4.2 .... is it more "Jeep", or is it,
> too, a grocery getter - just from AMC?
>
> Anybody care to comment on the huge flywheel effect or massive torque
> rise on a stock-engined a Samurai? Must make for a lousy crawler....
>
>
> Jon
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



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