V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
10-26-2007, 04:16 PM
#151
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:56:50 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You just replied to one of the two queers that been attacking me,
> sucker.
You've got that ***-backwards, Cooyon, just like you carry on in your
personal life.
You started the attacks on EVERYONE elsewhere.
Yeah, it's gotta be those assless chaps.
--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."
-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer
> You just replied to one of the two queers that been attacking me,
> sucker.
You've got that ***-backwards, Cooyon, just like you carry on in your
personal life.
You started the attacks on EVERYONE elsewhere.
Yeah, it's gotta be those assless chaps.
--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."
-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer
10-26-2007, 04:22 PM
#152
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:56:50 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > You just replied to one of the two queers that been
> > attacking me, sucker.
>
> You've got that ***-backwards, Cooyon, just like you carry
> on in your personal life.
>
> You started the attacks on EVERYONE elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, it's gotta be those assless chaps.
>
No one here believes any of that, sicko. Following a guy to another group,
well that's just queer, now isn't it? It's just like following him home.
Cheers,
Earle
news:pan.2007.10.26.17.17.17.889137@trepanation.ca lm...
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:56:50 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > You just replied to one of the two queers that been
> > attacking me, sucker.
>
> You've got that ***-backwards, Cooyon, just like you carry
> on in your personal life.
>
> You started the attacks on EVERYONE elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, it's gotta be those assless chaps.
>
No one here believes any of that, sicko. Following a guy to another group,
well that's just queer, now isn't it? It's just like following him home.
Cheers,
Earle
10-26-2007, 04:22 PM
#153
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.26.17.17.17.889137@trepanation.ca lm...
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:56:50 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > You just replied to one of the two queers that been
> > attacking me, sucker.
>
> You've got that ***-backwards, Cooyon, just like you carry
> on in your personal life.
>
> You started the attacks on EVERYONE elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, it's gotta be those assless chaps.
>
No one here believes any of that, sicko. Following a guy to another group,
well that's just queer, now isn't it? It's just like following him home.
Cheers,
Earle
news:pan.2007.10.26.17.17.17.889137@trepanation.ca lm...
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:56:50 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > You just replied to one of the two queers that been
> > attacking me, sucker.
>
> You've got that ***-backwards, Cooyon, just like you carry
> on in your personal life.
>
> You started the attacks on EVERYONE elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, it's gotta be those assless chaps.
>
No one here believes any of that, sicko. Following a guy to another group,
well that's just queer, now isn't it? It's just like following him home.
Cheers,
Earle
10-26-2007, 04:22 PM
#154
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.26.17.17.17.889137@trepanation.ca lm...
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:56:50 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > You just replied to one of the two queers that been
> > attacking me, sucker.
>
> You've got that ***-backwards, Cooyon, just like you carry
> on in your personal life.
>
> You started the attacks on EVERYONE elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, it's gotta be those assless chaps.
>
No one here believes any of that, sicko. Following a guy to another group,
well that's just queer, now isn't it? It's just like following him home.
Cheers,
Earle
news:pan.2007.10.26.17.17.17.889137@trepanation.ca lm...
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:56:50 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > You just replied to one of the two queers that been
> > attacking me, sucker.
>
> You've got that ***-backwards, Cooyon, just like you carry
> on in your personal life.
>
> You started the attacks on EVERYONE elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, it's gotta be those assless chaps.
>
No one here believes any of that, sicko. Following a guy to another group,
well that's just queer, now isn't it? It's just like following him home.
Cheers,
Earle
10-26-2007, 04:26 PM
#155
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Not mine. It climbs my steep driveway at "idol" speed.
"Coasty" <coasty@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
> crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.
>
> Coasty
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
>> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
>> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
>> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
>> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to
>> creep (crawl) over stuff.
>>
>> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
>> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
>> noisey.
>>
>> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
>> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
>> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
>> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
>> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they
>> had a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
>> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
>> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
>> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>>> might change your mind!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>>> anyplace.
>>>>
>>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for
>>>>> a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
"Coasty" <coasty@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:09ydnbkFysFvJrzanZ2dnUVZ_t-gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
> crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.
>
> Coasty
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
>> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
>> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
>> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
>> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to
>> creep (crawl) over stuff.
>>
>> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
>> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
>> noisey.
>>
>> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
>> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
>> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
>> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
>> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they
>> had a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
>> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
>> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
>> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>>> might change your mind!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>>> anyplace.
>>>>
>>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for
>>>>> a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
10-26-2007, 04:26 PM
#156
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Not mine. It climbs my steep driveway at "idol" speed.
"Coasty" <coasty@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:09ydnbkFysFvJrzanZ2dnUVZ_t-gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
> crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.
>
> Coasty
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
>> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
>> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
>> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
>> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to
>> creep (crawl) over stuff.
>>
>> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
>> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
>> noisey.
>>
>> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
>> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
>> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
>> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
>> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they
>> had a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
>> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
>> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
>> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>>> might change your mind!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>>> anyplace.
>>>>
>>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for
>>>>> a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
"Coasty" <coasty@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:09ydnbkFysFvJrzanZ2dnUVZ_t-gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
> crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.
>
> Coasty
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
>> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
>> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
>> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
>> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to
>> creep (crawl) over stuff.
>>
>> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
>> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
>> noisey.
>>
>> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
>> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
>> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
>> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
>> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they
>> had a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
>> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
>> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
>> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>>> might change your mind!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>>> anyplace.
>>>>
>>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for
>>>>> a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
10-26-2007, 04:26 PM
#157
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
Not mine. It climbs my steep driveway at "idol" speed.
"Coasty" <coasty@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:09ydnbkFysFvJrzanZ2dnUVZ_t-gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
> crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.
>
> Coasty
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
>> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
>> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
>> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
>> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to
>> creep (crawl) over stuff.
>>
>> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
>> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
>> noisey.
>>
>> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
>> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
>> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
>> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
>> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they
>> had a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
>> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
>> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
>> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>>> might change your mind!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>>> anyplace.
>>>>
>>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for
>>>>> a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
"Coasty" <coasty@nospam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:09ydnbkFysFvJrzanZ2dnUVZ_t-gnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
> crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.
>
> Coasty
>
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
>> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
>> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
>> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
>> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to
>> creep (crawl) over stuff.
>>
>> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
>> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
>> noisey.
>>
>> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
>> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
>> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
>> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
>> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they
>> had a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
>> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
>> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
>> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>>> might change your mind!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>>> anyplace.
>>>>
>>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for
>>>>> a long time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
10-26-2007, 04:33 PM
#158
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
THANX for the reply and the link to the allpar site.
"reboot" <reboot@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
> <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>Mitsubushi.
>>Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's
>>used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time.
>>
>
> yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact
> Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i
> remember was in the Sebring two generations past).
>
> this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is
> more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned
> for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving
> characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle,
> good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves.
>
> a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com
>
> http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html
>
> reboot
>
>
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"reboot" <reboot@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
> <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>Mitsubushi.
>>Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's
>>used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time.
>>
>
> yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact
> Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i
> remember was in the Sebring two generations past).
>
> this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is
> more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned
> for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving
> characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle,
> good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves.
>
> a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com
>
> http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html
>
> reboot
>
>
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10-26-2007, 04:33 PM
#159
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
THANX for the reply and the link to the allpar site.
"reboot" <reboot@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
> <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>Mitsubushi.
>>Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's
>>used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time.
>>
>
> yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact
> Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i
> remember was in the Sebring two generations past).
>
> this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is
> more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned
> for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving
> characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle,
> good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves.
>
> a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com
>
> http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html
>
> reboot
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 10/25/2007
> Tested on: 10/25/2007 8:52:07 PM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.
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"reboot" <reboot@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
> <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>Mitsubushi.
>>Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's
>>used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time.
>>
>
> yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact
> Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i
> remember was in the Sebring two generations past).
>
> this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is
> more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned
> for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving
> characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle,
> good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves.
>
> a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com
>
> http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html
>
> reboot
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 10/25/2007
> Tested on: 10/25/2007 8:52:07 PM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.
> http://www.avast.com
>
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10-26-2007, 04:33 PM
#160
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Re: V-6 in '08 Wrangler???
THANX for the reply and the link to the allpar site.
"reboot" <reboot@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:pqd2i3d6jlk5krehr7bfurh82umeedmjv9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
> <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>Mitsubushi.
>>Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's
>>used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time.
>>
>
> yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact
> Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i
> remember was in the Sebring two generations past).
>
> this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is
> more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned
> for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving
> characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle,
> good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves.
>
> a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com
>
> http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html
>
> reboot
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 10/25/2007
> Tested on: 10/25/2007 8:52:07 PM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.
> http://www.avast.com
>
>
>
"reboot" <reboot@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:pqd2i3d6jlk5krehr7bfurh82umeedmjv9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:40:01 -0500, "Jack Carter"
> <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>Mitsubushi.
>>Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine and that it's
>>used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a long time.
>>
>
> yes it's a mini-van motor but it isn't produced by Mitsu - in fact
> Chrysler has run a Mitsu motor in more than a few years (the last i
> remember was in the Sebring two generations past).
>
> this is a 60 degree cast iron block push rod motor and while it is
> more free revving and has a higher red line than the 4.0, it is tuned
> for low rpm torque. mini-van moms appreciate the same driving
> characteristics that jeepers do ... torquey off the line, smooth idle,
> good tip in response, not peaky or pipey torque and hp curves.
>
> a good source or information on JKs is found on Allpar.com
>
> http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/wrangler.html
>
> reboot
>
>
> ---
> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean.
> Virus Database (VPS): 071025-1, 10/25/2007
> Tested on: 10/25/2007 8:52:07 PM
> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software.
> http://www.avast.com
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