Old Crow

OK, I own 2 Wranglers. One, a '94, with the 6 cyl/5speed. The second,
a '95 with the 4 cyl/5speed.
They both just turned over 205,000 within the last 2 or 3 weeks.

My Jeep(the '95)started bucking and cutting out, but only after driving
it about 50 miles at a shot, and then, only on the way home, never on
the way to work. You'd get home, park it for a few minutes, then you
could drive away with no further problems.
Did the usual tune-up stuff(f/filter, cap, rotor, wires, plugs)just
'cuz it was time, with no improvement.
Then, several days later, I took the wife's Jeep to work. Well, on the
way home, her's started acting the exact same way, at almost the exact
same place(did I mention that my Jeep did this like 5 days in a row
within a 1/4 mile of the same place each time?).
Well, since both Jeeps were acting up I really had to find the problem.
I brought a fuel pressure gauge home from work, and when the wife's
Jeep started to act up, I stopped on the side of the road, hooked up
the gauge, bungeed it to the hood and took off again.
Sure enough, after a few minutes I noticed the fuel pressure start to
drop off. When it got below 20 psi the bucking and cutting out began.
OK, needs a fuel pump.
So, Tuesday I loaded the gauge into *my* Jeep and off we went. The
outside temps had dropped some, so it didn't act up on Tuesday night(or
maybe because I actually had the gauge with me and wanted it to act
up?).
Well, we kept at it, and last night on the way home, I was able to
verify that my fuel pressure also is dropping off. Great, now I need 2
of them damn pumps.
It's just weird that both Jeeps would develope the exact same problem,
and manifest the exact same symptoms(down to acting up within a 1/4
mile of the same place)at the same time.
I can only conclude that the design life of the electric fuel pump is
200,000 miles.
Anybody know a cheap on-line source for gen-u-wine, Jeep replacement
pumps? Don't want an aftermarket, since the originals lasted so long,
I want to use a factory part.

--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
'95 Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, SENS, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#?

DougW

Old Crow did pass the time by typing:
> OK, I own 2 Wranglers. One, a '94, with the 6 cyl/5speed. The second,
> a '95 with the 4 cyl/5speed.
> They both just turned over 205,000 within the last 2 or 3 weeks.

Going by your description I'd be thinking fuel pump also. Espeically since
you already did the fuel filter.

> Anybody know a cheap on-line source for gen-u-wine, Jeep replacement
> pumps? Don't want an aftermarket, since the originals lasted so long,
> I want to use a factory part.

I have used these folks and been happy:
http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/

You are correct about the aftermarket. I've heard of several
times where even a good NAPA replacement has been DOA.


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DougW

DougW

Old Crow did pass the time by typing:
> OK, I own 2 Wranglers. One, a '94, with the 6 cyl/5speed. The second,
> a '95 with the 4 cyl/5speed.
> They both just turned over 205,000 within the last 2 or 3 weeks.

Going by your description I'd be thinking fuel pump also. Espeically since
you already did the fuel filter.

> Anybody know a cheap on-line source for gen-u-wine, Jeep replacement
> pumps? Don't want an aftermarket, since the originals lasted so long,
> I want to use a factory part.

I have used these folks and been happy:
http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/

You are correct about the aftermarket. I've heard of several
times where even a good NAPA replacement has been DOA.


--
DougW

DougW

Old Crow did pass the time by typing:
> OK, I own 2 Wranglers. One, a '94, with the 6 cyl/5speed. The second,
> a '95 with the 4 cyl/5speed.
> They both just turned over 205,000 within the last 2 or 3 weeks.

Going by your description I'd be thinking fuel pump also. Espeically since
you already did the fuel filter.

> Anybody know a cheap on-line source for gen-u-wine, Jeep replacement
> pumps? Don't want an aftermarket, since the originals lasted so long,
> I want to use a factory part.

I have used these folks and been happy:
http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com/

You are correct about the aftermarket. I've heard of several
times where even a good NAPA replacement has been DOA.


--
DougW

Billy Ray

It sure seems odd that both pumps would fail the same week.

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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127986063.207027.132170@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, I own 2 Wranglers. One, a '94, with the 6 cyl/5speed. The second,
> a '95 with the 4 cyl/5speed.
> They both just turned over 205,000 within the last 2 or 3 weeks.
>
> My Jeep(the '95)started bucking and cutting out, but only after driving
> it about 50 miles at a shot, and then, only on the way home, never on
> the way to work. You'd get home, park it for a few minutes, then you
> could drive away with no further problems.
> Did the usual tune-up stuff(f/filter, cap, rotor, wires, plugs)just
> 'cuz it was time, with no improvement.
> Then, several days later, I took the wife's Jeep to work. Well, on the
> way home, her's started acting the exact same way, at almost the exact
> same place(did I mention that my Jeep did this like 5 days in a row
> within a 1/4 mile of the same place each time?).
> Well, since both Jeeps were acting up I really had to find the problem.
> I brought a fuel pressure gauge home from work, and when the wife's
> Jeep started to act up, I stopped on the side of the road, hooked up
> the gauge, bungeed it to the hood and took off again.
> Sure enough, after a few minutes I noticed the fuel pressure start to
> drop off. When it got below 20 psi the bucking and cutting out began.
> OK, needs a fuel pump.
> So, Tuesday I loaded the gauge into *my* Jeep and off we went. The
> outside temps had dropped some, so it didn't act up on Tuesday night(or
> maybe because I actually had the gauge with me and wanted it to act
> up?).
> Well, we kept at it, and last night on the way home, I was able to
> verify that my fuel pressure also is dropping off. Great, now I need 2
> of them damn pumps.
> It's just weird that both Jeeps would develope the exact same problem,
> and manifest the exact same symptoms(down to acting up within a 1/4
> mile of the same place)at the same time.
> I can only conclude that the design life of the electric fuel pump is
> 200,000 miles.
> Anybody know a cheap on-line source for gen-u-wine, Jeep replacement
> pumps? Don't want an aftermarket, since the originals lasted so long,
> I want to use a factory part.
>
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
> '95 Wrangler YJ
> TOMKAT, SENS, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#?
>

Billy Ray

It sure seems odd that both pumps would fail the same week.

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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127986063.207027.132170@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, I own 2 Wranglers. One, a '94, with the 6 cyl/5speed. The second,
> a '95 with the 4 cyl/5speed.
> They both just turned over 205,000 within the last 2 or 3 weeks.
>
> My Jeep(the '95)started bucking and cutting out, but only after driving
> it about 50 miles at a shot, and then, only on the way home, never on
> the way to work. You'd get home, park it for a few minutes, then you
> could drive away with no further problems.
> Did the usual tune-up stuff(f/filter, cap, rotor, wires, plugs)just
> 'cuz it was time, with no improvement.
> Then, several days later, I took the wife's Jeep to work. Well, on the
> way home, her's started acting the exact same way, at almost the exact
> same place(did I mention that my Jeep did this like 5 days in a row
> within a 1/4 mile of the same place each time?).
> Well, since both Jeeps were acting up I really had to find the problem.
> I brought a fuel pressure gauge home from work, and when the wife's
> Jeep started to act up, I stopped on the side of the road, hooked up
> the gauge, bungeed it to the hood and took off again.
> Sure enough, after a few minutes I noticed the fuel pressure start to
> drop off. When it got below 20 psi the bucking and cutting out began.
> OK, needs a fuel pump.
> So, Tuesday I loaded the gauge into *my* Jeep and off we went. The
> outside temps had dropped some, so it didn't act up on Tuesday night(or
> maybe because I actually had the gauge with me and wanted it to act
> up?).
> Well, we kept at it, and last night on the way home, I was able to
> verify that my fuel pressure also is dropping off. Great, now I need 2
> of them damn pumps.
> It's just weird that both Jeeps would develope the exact same problem,
> and manifest the exact same symptoms(down to acting up within a 1/4
> mile of the same place)at the same time.
> I can only conclude that the design life of the electric fuel pump is
> 200,000 miles.
> Anybody know a cheap on-line source for gen-u-wine, Jeep replacement
> pumps? Don't want an aftermarket, since the originals lasted so long,
> I want to use a factory part.
>
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
> '95 Wrangler YJ
> TOMKAT, SENS, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#?
>

Billy Ray

It sure seems odd that both pumps would fail the same week.

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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1127986063.207027.132170@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, I own 2 Wranglers. One, a '94, with the 6 cyl/5speed. The second,
> a '95 with the 4 cyl/5speed.
> They both just turned over 205,000 within the last 2 or 3 weeks.
>
> My Jeep(the '95)started bucking and cutting out, but only after driving
> it about 50 miles at a shot, and then, only on the way home, never on
> the way to work. You'd get home, park it for a few minutes, then you
> could drive away with no further problems.
> Did the usual tune-up stuff(f/filter, cap, rotor, wires, plugs)just
> 'cuz it was time, with no improvement.
> Then, several days later, I took the wife's Jeep to work. Well, on the
> way home, her's started acting the exact same way, at almost the exact
> same place(did I mention that my Jeep did this like 5 days in a row
> within a 1/4 mile of the same place each time?).
> Well, since both Jeeps were acting up I really had to find the problem.
> I brought a fuel pressure gauge home from work, and when the wife's
> Jeep started to act up, I stopped on the side of the road, hooked up
> the gauge, bungeed it to the hood and took off again.
> Sure enough, after a few minutes I noticed the fuel pressure start to
> drop off. When it got below 20 psi the bucking and cutting out began.
> OK, needs a fuel pump.
> So, Tuesday I loaded the gauge into *my* Jeep and off we went. The
> outside temps had dropped some, so it didn't act up on Tuesday night(or
> maybe because I actually had the gauge with me and wanted it to act
> up?).
> Well, we kept at it, and last night on the way home, I was able to
> verify that my fuel pressure also is dropping off. Great, now I need 2
> of them damn pumps.
> It's just weird that both Jeeps would develope the exact same problem,
> and manifest the exact same symptoms(down to acting up within a 1/4
> mile of the same place)at the same time.
> I can only conclude that the design life of the electric fuel pump is
> 200,000 miles.
> Anybody know a cheap on-line source for gen-u-wine, Jeep replacement
> pumps? Don't want an aftermarket, since the originals lasted so long,
> I want to use a factory part.
>
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
> '95 Wrangler YJ
> TOMKAT, SENS, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#?
>

Old Crow

Billy Ray wrote:
> It sure seems odd that both pumps would fail the same week.
>

Yeah, I thought so too, but it's also a coincidence that both Jeeps hit
the 205,000 mile mark the same week. I just figure it's my luck. It's
a big hit on the wallet to replace one of these pumps(even if I *am*
doing the labor myself, but to do 2 in one week? There goes the beer
money for this month :-(


--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
'95 Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, SENS, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#13

Old Crow

Billy Ray wrote:
> It sure seems odd that both pumps would fail the same week.
>

Yeah, I thought so too, but it's also a coincidence that both Jeeps hit
the 205,000 mile mark the same week. I just figure it's my luck. It's
a big hit on the wallet to replace one of these pumps(even if I *am*
doing the labor myself, but to do 2 in one week? There goes the beer
money for this month :-(


--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
'95 Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, SENS, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#13

Old Crow

Billy Ray wrote:
> It sure seems odd that both pumps would fail the same week.
>

Yeah, I thought so too, but it's also a coincidence that both Jeeps hit
the 205,000 mile mark the same week. I just figure it's my luck. It's
a big hit on the wallet to replace one of these pumps(even if I *am*
doing the labor myself, but to do 2 in one week? There goes the beer
money for this month :-(


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Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Pearl"
'95 Wrangler YJ
TOMKAT, SENS, BS#133, MAMBM, SLOB#13