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Shazam 10-22-2004 08:59 PM

Update on my heater problem
 
I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.

2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.

This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
I'd be able to do the labor myself.

I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
dash put back together, but with only the high setting
working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
back into the resistor pack.

Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
problem over the phone

Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
you think. Thanks

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-23-2004 12:48 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Shazam wrote:
>
> I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
> though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
> them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
> the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>
> 2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
> 13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
> blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
> unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
> was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>
> This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
> change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
> I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>
> I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
> that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
> blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
> the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
> dash put back together, but with only the high setting
> working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
> afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
> under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
> I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
> back into the resistor pack.
>
> Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
> because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
> the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
> it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
> times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
> the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
> JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
> problem over the phone
>
> Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
> you think. Thanks


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-23-2004 12:48 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Shazam wrote:
>
> I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
> though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
> them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
> the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>
> 2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
> 13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
> blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
> unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
> was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>
> This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
> change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
> I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>
> I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
> that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
> blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
> the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
> dash put back together, but with only the high setting
> working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
> afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
> under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
> I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
> back into the resistor pack.
>
> Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
> because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
> the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
> it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
> times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
> the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
> JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
> problem over the phone
>
> Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
> you think. Thanks


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 10-23-2004 12:48 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Shazam wrote:
>
> I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
> though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
> them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
> the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>
> 2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
> 13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
> blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
> unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
> was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>
> This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
> change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
> I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>
> I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
> that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
> blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
> the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
> dash put back together, but with only the high setting
> working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
> afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
> under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
> I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
> back into the resistor pack.
>
> Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
> because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
> the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
> it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
> times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
> the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
> JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
> problem over the phone
>
> Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
> you think. Thanks


HarryS 10-23-2004 07:14 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
Ditto Bill, to answer your question what the maximum amperage draw of the
blower motor is; the motor will be stamped on the housing with the rmp,
voltage and max amperage, this is required by UL and NEC for all electrical
devices.

HarryS


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4179E285.66F24CF1@cox.net...
> We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Shazam wrote:
>>
>> I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
>> though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
>> them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
>> the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>>
>> 2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
>> 13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
>> blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
>> unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
>> was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>>
>> This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
>> change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
>> I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>>
>> I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
>> that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
>> blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
>> the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
>> dash put back together, but with only the high setting
>> working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
>> afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
>> under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
>> I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
>> back into the resistor pack.
>>
>> Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
>> because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
>> the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
>> it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
>> times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
>> the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
>> JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
>> problem over the phone
>>
>> Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
>> you think. Thanks




HarryS 10-23-2004 07:14 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
Ditto Bill, to answer your question what the maximum amperage draw of the
blower motor is; the motor will be stamped on the housing with the rmp,
voltage and max amperage, this is required by UL and NEC for all electrical
devices.

HarryS


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4179E285.66F24CF1@cox.net...
> We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Shazam wrote:
>>
>> I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
>> though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
>> them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
>> the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>>
>> 2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
>> 13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
>> blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
>> unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
>> was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>>
>> This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
>> change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
>> I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>>
>> I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
>> that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
>> blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
>> the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
>> dash put back together, but with only the high setting
>> working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
>> afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
>> under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
>> I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
>> back into the resistor pack.
>>
>> Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
>> because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
>> the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
>> it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
>> times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
>> the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
>> JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
>> problem over the phone
>>
>> Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
>> you think. Thanks




HarryS 10-23-2004 07:14 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
Ditto Bill, to answer your question what the maximum amperage draw of the
blower motor is; the motor will be stamped on the housing with the rmp,
voltage and max amperage, this is required by UL and NEC for all electrical
devices.

HarryS


"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4179E285.66F24CF1@cox.net...
> We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Shazam wrote:
>>
>> I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
>> though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
>> them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
>> the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>>
>> 2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
>> 13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
>> blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
>> unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
>> was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>>
>> This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
>> change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
>> I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>>
>> I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
>> that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
>> blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
>> the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
>> dash put back together, but with only the high setting
>> working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
>> afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
>> under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
>> I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
>> back into the resistor pack.
>>
>> Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
>> because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
>> the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
>> it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
>> times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
>> the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
>> JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
>> problem over the phone
>>
>> Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
>> you think. Thanks




RoyJ 10-23-2004 10:16 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
NEC and UL apply to voltages on the grid or off the grid and over 50(??)
volts. Nothing on the vehicle has any sort of NEC or UL rating.

HarryS wrote:
> Ditto Bill, to answer your question what the maximum amperage draw of the
> blower motor is; the motor will be stamped on the housing with the rmp,
> voltage and max amperage, this is required by UL and NEC for all electrical
> devices.
>
> HarryS
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4179E285.66F24CF1@cox.net...
>
>> We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Shazam wrote:
>>
>>>I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
>>>though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
>>>them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
>>>the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>>>
>>>2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
>>>13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
>>>blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
>>>unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
>>>was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>>>
>>>This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
>>>change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
>>>I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>>>
>>>I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
>>>that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
>>>blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
>>>the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
>>>dash put back together, but with only the high setting
>>>working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
>>>afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
>>>under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
>>>I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
>>>back into the resistor pack.
>>>
>>>Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
>>>because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
>>>the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
>>>it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
>>>times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
>>>the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
>>>JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
>>>problem over the phone
>>>
>>>Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
>>>you think. Thanks

>
>
>


RoyJ 10-23-2004 10:16 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
NEC and UL apply to voltages on the grid or off the grid and over 50(??)
volts. Nothing on the vehicle has any sort of NEC or UL rating.

HarryS wrote:
> Ditto Bill, to answer your question what the maximum amperage draw of the
> blower motor is; the motor will be stamped on the housing with the rmp,
> voltage and max amperage, this is required by UL and NEC for all electrical
> devices.
>
> HarryS
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4179E285.66F24CF1@cox.net...
>
>> We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Shazam wrote:
>>
>>>I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
>>>though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
>>>them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
>>>the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>>>
>>>2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
>>>13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
>>>blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
>>>unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
>>>was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>>>
>>>This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
>>>change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
>>>I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>>>
>>>I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
>>>that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
>>>blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
>>>the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
>>>dash put back together, but with only the high setting
>>>working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
>>>afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
>>>under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
>>>I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
>>>back into the resistor pack.
>>>
>>>Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
>>>because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
>>>the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
>>>it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
>>>times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
>>>the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
>>>JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
>>>problem over the phone
>>>
>>>Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
>>>you think. Thanks

>
>
>


RoyJ 10-23-2004 10:16 AM

Re: Update on my heater problem
 
NEC and UL apply to voltages on the grid or off the grid and over 50(??)
volts. Nothing on the vehicle has any sort of NEC or UL rating.

HarryS wrote:
> Ditto Bill, to answer your question what the maximum amperage draw of the
> blower motor is; the motor will be stamped on the housing with the rmp,
> voltage and max amperage, this is required by UL and NEC for all electrical
> devices.
>
> HarryS
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4179E285.66F24CF1@cox.net...
>
>> We don't call them Stealerships for nothing.
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>>Shazam wrote:
>>
>>>I finally made it into the garage to properly check things out, even
>>>though I was certain that it was the dash control unit, and wanted
>>>them to confirm this before changing it, since I had already changed
>>>the resistor pack on my 2000TJ, and checked the blower motor.
>>>
>>>2 hours, and $171 later, they said that the blower motor was drawing
>>>13amps, which caused the resistor connector to melt, and damage the
>>>blower switch...now they recommend that I change the dash control
>>>unit, and blower motor, and since I'm at it...the resistor pack which
>>>was changed in March of this year, at a grand total of $935.
>>>
>>>This put me in a difficult position, and decided that I would just
>>>change the dash control unit, and sell the Jeep...cost of $196, and
>>>I'd be able to do the labor myself.
>>>
>>>I contacted Justjeeps.com to look for a better price, and was informed
>>>that I could just change the "speed control" switch for the
>>>blower....cost: $7.19. I decided to try this out...sure enough, when
>>>the switch came in, in 10 minutes, I had the switch replaced, and the
>>>dash put back together, but with only the high setting
>>>working...nothing on the low & medium settings. later on that
>>>afternoon...during my coffee break, I decided to go out, and check
>>>under the dash where the resistor pack is located....5 minutes later,
>>>I was plugging in the connector (that the garage forgot to plus in),
>>>back into the resistor pack.
>>>
>>>Now, I'm wondering...how many amps should the blower motor draw,
>>>because I would like to get in touch with the garage, and ask them why
>>>the estimate recommends I change pretty much everything, when in fact,
>>>it was only the switch. At $7.19, I'd rather change the switch 3
>>>times a year, than to pay $935, and I'd like to ask for a refund of
>>>the $171 for 2 hours of diagnotics, when I was on the phone with
>>>JustJeep.com, for about 10 minutes, and they were able to diagnose the
>>>problem over the phone
>>>
>>>Sounds like the dealership is trying to upsell?!? let me know what
>>>you think. Thanks

>
>
>



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