On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:40:17 GMT, Tom Greening <tgreening@yomama.com>
wrote:

>Matt Osborn wrote:
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>> corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>> going to be the tax collector.
>
>
>Really? Geez, I wonder what that $150,000 I sent to the IRS was all
>about then.

Can you imagine if the government were to tax contracts between
individuals? Would the contract pay taxes? Of course not, the
individual pays taxes.

To answer your question, you sent $150,000 of what could have been
lower prices on your product, payroll (probably yours), supplies,
facilities or dividends (probably yours) to the IRS. You are free to
decide where it came from, but I'll guarantee that the corporation
isn't going to feel the pain nearly as much as you did.


-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

 

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:40:17 GMT, Tom Greening <tgreening@yomama.com>
wrote:

>Matt Osborn wrote:
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
>> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
>> corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
>> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
>> going to be the tax collector.
>
>
>Really? Geez, I wonder what that $150,000 I sent to the IRS was all
>about then.

Can you imagine if the government were to tax contracts between
individuals? Would the contract pay taxes? Of course not, the
individual pays taxes.

To answer your question, you sent $150,000 of what could have been
lower prices on your product, payroll (probably yours), supplies,
facilities or dividends (probably yours) to the IRS. You are free to
decide where it came from, but I'll guarantee that the corporation
isn't going to feel the pain nearly as much as you did.


-- msosborn at msosborn dot com

 

Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.

<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com...
> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
> corporations do not.
>
> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
> going to be the tax collector.
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>
>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>> total tax.
>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>
>>>> I cut my own.
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com

 

Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.

<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com...
> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
> corporations do not.
>
> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
> going to be the tax collector.
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>
>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>> total tax.
>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>
>>>> I cut my own.
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com

 

Would you like to contribute to my corporation's Federal tax payment this
year? Form 8108 I believe, estimated quarterly payments.

<Matt Osborn> wrote in message
news:1id3a253q6o7m8uma8dc87r2o8vkulvrrj@4ax.com...
> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_ pay
> taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay taxes, but the
> corporations do not.
>
> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what they
> mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the corporation is
> going to be the tax collector.
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:53:01 -0400, "Matt Macchiarolo"
> <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>So you don't count corporate welfare as subsidies. Riiiiiight.
>>
>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>news:44A08FEF.20BD224A@***.net...
>>> No Good. I'm looking for actual subsidies per gallon like this
>>> fifty four cents a gallon on ethanol
>>> http://www.ssu.missouri.edu/publicat...97/vandyne.htm Without
>>> that ratio we might as well be talking about the two thousand bucks your
>>> president Bush save you income tax, great, but it doesn't give Me your
>>> total tax.
>>> And if you pay yourself fifty cents an hour?
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ethanol-gec.org/winter2000/winter0020.html
>>>>
>>>> I cut my own.
>>
>
>
>
> -- msosborn at msosborn dot com

 

Tom Greening <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in
news:Rdkog.6614$vl5.2777@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> Matt Osborn wrote:
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_
>> pay taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay
>> taxes, but the corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what
>> they mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the
>> corporation is going to be the tax collector.
>
>
> Really? Geez, I wonder what that $150,000 I sent to the IRS was
> all about then.

If you work for a business or own a business the $150,000 you sent the
IRS was money you collected from your customers for the IRS.

A business has no way to get money except to take it from their
customers by selling goods or services so you're collecting taxes for
employees, customers, etc. as Matt pointed out.

 

Tom Greening <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in
news:Rdkog.6614$vl5.2777@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> Matt Osborn wrote:
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_
>> pay taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay
>> taxes, but the corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what
>> they mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the
>> corporation is going to be the tax collector.
>
>
> Really? Geez, I wonder what that $150,000 I sent to the IRS was
> all about then.

If you work for a business or own a business the $150,000 you sent the
IRS was money you collected from your customers for the IRS.

A business has no way to get money except to take it from their
customers by selling goods or services so you're collecting taxes for
employees, customers, etc. as Matt pointed out.

 

Tom Greening <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in
news:Rdkog.6614$vl5.2777@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com:

> Matt Osborn wrote:
>> The problem is, and always has been, that corporations _never_
>> pay taxes. Their customers, employees and shareholders pay
>> taxes, but the corporations do not.
>>
>> When a government _says_ that it wants to tax corporations, what
>> they mean is that they want to tax everybody else and the
>> corporation is going to be the tax collector.
>
>
> Really? Geez, I wonder what that $150,000 I sent to the IRS was
> all about then.

If you work for a business or own a business the $150,000 you sent the
IRS was money you collected from your customers for the IRS.

A business has no way to get money except to take it from their
customers by selling goods or services so you're collecting taxes for
employees, customers, etc. as Matt pointed out.

 

"economical"????? No where does it say how many miles it gets to a
gallon of kerosene or their coke. They admit they can't get more than a
hundred miles between services. Looks like the fuel tank is about a foot
by a foot by probably about three foot to fit inside the rails, or about
twenty two gallons or about four and half miles to the gallon.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> No, I meant the far more economical Doble:
> http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/automo.Html

 

"economical"????? No where does it say how many miles it gets to a
gallon of kerosene or their coke. They admit they can't get more than a
hundred miles between services. Looks like the fuel tank is about a foot
by a foot by probably about three foot to fit inside the rails, or about
twenty two gallons or about four and half miles to the gallon.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Lon wrote:
>
> No, I meant the far more economical Doble:
> http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/automo.Html