True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
11-23-2003, 12:51 AM
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True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
-jeff
that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
-jeff
11-23-2003, 01:42 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
First I've heard of that being a problem, too. I've never run that
setup myself, but I know a few here have (JerryB comes to mind).
Hopefully they will comment. Sounds to me like the shop you're dealing
with is confused, and thinks you are talking about something along the
lines of a Detroit locker as opposed to an LSD.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0800, jeffo@efn.org (Jeff Olsen) wrote:
>While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
>that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
>bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
>what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
>-jeff
setup myself, but I know a few here have (JerryB comes to mind).
Hopefully they will comment. Sounds to me like the shop you're dealing
with is confused, and thinks you are talking about something along the
lines of a Detroit locker as opposed to an LSD.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0800, jeffo@efn.org (Jeff Olsen) wrote:
>While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
>that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
>bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
>what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
>-jeff
11-23-2003, 01:42 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
First I've heard of that being a problem, too. I've never run that
setup myself, but I know a few here have (JerryB comes to mind).
Hopefully they will comment. Sounds to me like the shop you're dealing
with is confused, and thinks you are talking about something along the
lines of a Detroit locker as opposed to an LSD.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0800, jeffo@efn.org (Jeff Olsen) wrote:
>While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
>that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
>bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
>what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
>-jeff
setup myself, but I know a few here have (JerryB comes to mind).
Hopefully they will comment. Sounds to me like the shop you're dealing
with is confused, and thinks you are talking about something along the
lines of a Detroit locker as opposed to an LSD.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0800, jeffo@efn.org (Jeff Olsen) wrote:
>While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
>that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
>bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
>what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
>-jeff
11-23-2003, 01:42 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
First I've heard of that being a problem, too. I've never run that
setup myself, but I know a few here have (JerryB comes to mind).
Hopefully they will comment. Sounds to me like the shop you're dealing
with is confused, and thinks you are talking about something along the
lines of a Detroit locker as opposed to an LSD.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0800, jeffo@efn.org (Jeff Olsen) wrote:
>While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
>that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
>bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
>what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
>-jeff
setup myself, but I know a few here have (JerryB comes to mind).
Hopefully they will comment. Sounds to me like the shop you're dealing
with is confused, and thinks you are talking about something along the
lines of a Detroit locker as opposed to an LSD.
Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
On 22 Nov 2003 21:51:50 -0800, jeffo@efn.org (Jeff Olsen) wrote:
>While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
>that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
>bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
>what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
>-jeff
11-23-2003, 03:56 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
On 22 Nov 2003 08:51 PM, Jeff Olsen posted the following:
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the
> shop that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front
> axle was a bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This
> is contrary to what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and
> care to comment?
The person who told you that doesn't have a clue about the TrueTrac. I
have one in the D30 under the front of my '01 TJ which spends at least 1/
3 of each year driving in snowy/icy conditions here in Anchorage, AK.
It works great, my only issue is that with LSDs in both axles I have so
much excess traction that I probably get on the throttle harder than I
need to in some of the nasty stuff. Luckily the MT/Rs that I am running
stop better in the snow than any tire I have used so far. 8^)
Anyway when I had mine installed I was told the same thing and one guy
even had the gall to tell me that I would be back in to have the open
diff or an ARB installed after the first snow (I went elsewhere). Here
I am going into my third winter with it and my only regret is that I
only have the factory trac-lok in the rear instead of another truetrac,
or an electrac which I am planning to have installed if/when I can get a
dana 44 built.
It's also nice not having to shovel the part of my driveway where I park
the Jeep, I just put it into 4 low and back up the hill, thanks to the
truetrac in the front. 8^) FWIW my brother has truetracs in both ends
of his TJ and he reports no problems with them, although he hasn't had
it in the snow much lately.
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> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the
> shop that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front
> axle was a bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This
> is contrary to what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and
> care to comment?
The person who told you that doesn't have a clue about the TrueTrac. I
have one in the D30 under the front of my '01 TJ which spends at least 1/
3 of each year driving in snowy/icy conditions here in Anchorage, AK.
It works great, my only issue is that with LSDs in both axles I have so
much excess traction that I probably get on the throttle harder than I
need to in some of the nasty stuff. Luckily the MT/Rs that I am running
stop better in the snow than any tire I have used so far. 8^)
Anyway when I had mine installed I was told the same thing and one guy
even had the gall to tell me that I would be back in to have the open
diff or an ARB installed after the first snow (I went elsewhere). Here
I am going into my third winter with it and my only regret is that I
only have the factory trac-lok in the rear instead of another truetrac,
or an electrac which I am planning to have installed if/when I can get a
dana 44 built.
It's also nice not having to shovel the part of my driveway where I park
the Jeep, I just put it into 4 low and back up the hill, thanks to the
truetrac in the front. 8^) FWIW my brother has truetracs in both ends
of his TJ and he reports no problems with them, although he hasn't had
it in the snow much lately.
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11-23-2003, 03:56 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
On 22 Nov 2003 08:51 PM, Jeff Olsen posted the following:
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the
> shop that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front
> axle was a bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This
> is contrary to what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and
> care to comment?
The person who told you that doesn't have a clue about the TrueTrac. I
have one in the D30 under the front of my '01 TJ which spends at least 1/
3 of each year driving in snowy/icy conditions here in Anchorage, AK.
It works great, my only issue is that with LSDs in both axles I have so
much excess traction that I probably get on the throttle harder than I
need to in some of the nasty stuff. Luckily the MT/Rs that I am running
stop better in the snow than any tire I have used so far. 8^)
Anyway when I had mine installed I was told the same thing and one guy
even had the gall to tell me that I would be back in to have the open
diff or an ARB installed after the first snow (I went elsewhere). Here
I am going into my third winter with it and my only regret is that I
only have the factory trac-lok in the rear instead of another truetrac,
or an electrac which I am planning to have installed if/when I can get a
dana 44 built.
It's also nice not having to shovel the part of my driveway where I park
the Jeep, I just put it into 4 low and back up the hill, thanks to the
truetrac in the front. 8^) FWIW my brother has truetracs in both ends
of his TJ and he reports no problems with them, although he hasn't had
it in the snow much lately.
----------------------------------------------------
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> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the
> shop that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front
> axle was a bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This
> is contrary to what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and
> care to comment?
The person who told you that doesn't have a clue about the TrueTrac. I
have one in the D30 under the front of my '01 TJ which spends at least 1/
3 of each year driving in snowy/icy conditions here in Anchorage, AK.
It works great, my only issue is that with LSDs in both axles I have so
much excess traction that I probably get on the throttle harder than I
need to in some of the nasty stuff. Luckily the MT/Rs that I am running
stop better in the snow than any tire I have used so far. 8^)
Anyway when I had mine installed I was told the same thing and one guy
even had the gall to tell me that I would be back in to have the open
diff or an ARB installed after the first snow (I went elsewhere). Here
I am going into my third winter with it and my only regret is that I
only have the factory trac-lok in the rear instead of another truetrac,
or an electrac which I am planning to have installed if/when I can get a
dana 44 built.
It's also nice not having to shovel the part of my driveway where I park
the Jeep, I just put it into 4 low and back up the hill, thanks to the
truetrac in the front. 8^) FWIW my brother has truetracs in both ends
of his TJ and he reports no problems with them, although he hasn't had
it in the snow much lately.
----------------------------------------------------
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11-23-2003, 03:56 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
On 22 Nov 2003 08:51 PM, Jeff Olsen posted the following:
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the
> shop that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front
> axle was a bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This
> is contrary to what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and
> care to comment?
The person who told you that doesn't have a clue about the TrueTrac. I
have one in the D30 under the front of my '01 TJ which spends at least 1/
3 of each year driving in snowy/icy conditions here in Anchorage, AK.
It works great, my only issue is that with LSDs in both axles I have so
much excess traction that I probably get on the throttle harder than I
need to in some of the nasty stuff. Luckily the MT/Rs that I am running
stop better in the snow than any tire I have used so far. 8^)
Anyway when I had mine installed I was told the same thing and one guy
even had the gall to tell me that I would be back in to have the open
diff or an ARB installed after the first snow (I went elsewhere). Here
I am going into my third winter with it and my only regret is that I
only have the factory trac-lok in the rear instead of another truetrac,
or an electrac which I am planning to have installed if/when I can get a
dana 44 built.
It's also nice not having to shovel the part of my driveway where I park
the Jeep, I just put it into 4 low and back up the hill, thanks to the
truetrac in the front. 8^) FWIW my brother has truetracs in both ends
of his TJ and he reports no problems with them, although he hasn't had
it in the snow much lately.
----------------------------------------------------
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> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the
> shop that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front
> axle was a bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This
> is contrary to what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and
> care to comment?
The person who told you that doesn't have a clue about the TrueTrac. I
have one in the D30 under the front of my '01 TJ which spends at least 1/
3 of each year driving in snowy/icy conditions here in Anchorage, AK.
It works great, my only issue is that with LSDs in both axles I have so
much excess traction that I probably get on the throttle harder than I
need to in some of the nasty stuff. Luckily the MT/Rs that I am running
stop better in the snow than any tire I have used so far. 8^)
Anyway when I had mine installed I was told the same thing and one guy
even had the gall to tell me that I would be back in to have the open
diff or an ARB installed after the first snow (I went elsewhere). Here
I am going into my third winter with it and my only regret is that I
only have the factory trac-lok in the rear instead of another truetrac,
or an electrac which I am planning to have installed if/when I can get a
dana 44 built.
It's also nice not having to shovel the part of my driveway where I park
the Jeep, I just put it into 4 low and back up the hill, thanks to the
truetrac in the front. 8^) FWIW my brother has truetracs in both ends
of his TJ and he reports no problems with them, although he hasn't had
it in the snow much lately.
----------------------------------------------------
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11-23-2003, 11:36 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
If that shop said that a front Truetrac will cause problems, then you can't
trust a thing they say. I used to have Truetracs in my front and rear
axles in my TJ and I literally could not tell they were there. Totally
transparent.
That said, you're better off with a locker in the front axle since when in
2wd, you cannot tell it's there either. When I removed my front Truetrac, I
installed a front locker that I won at a 4x4 run and really, no kidding, I
can't tell it's there when I'm in 2wd. But when I'm in 4wd, what a HUGE
improvement over the
Truetrac. It's the rear axle where you can really tell when a locker is
installed.
Besides, it's WAY cheaper to buy and install a front locker than it is a
Truetrac, and it
can be installed in 1/4th the time since it gets installed into the stock
front carrier. I suggest either a Powertrax Lockrite or what I have, a
Powertrax No-Slip... both of which are true automatic lockers. And once
again... you cannot tell there's a locker in the front axle, I wouldn't have
installed it if I could tell or if it harmed the street manners since my TJ
is a daily driver.
Jerry
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"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:bpphtm$maf@garcia.efn.org...
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
> that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
> bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
> what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
> -jeff
>
trust a thing they say. I used to have Truetracs in my front and rear
axles in my TJ and I literally could not tell they were there. Totally
transparent.
That said, you're better off with a locker in the front axle since when in
2wd, you cannot tell it's there either. When I removed my front Truetrac, I
installed a front locker that I won at a 4x4 run and really, no kidding, I
can't tell it's there when I'm in 2wd. But when I'm in 4wd, what a HUGE
improvement over the
Truetrac. It's the rear axle where you can really tell when a locker is
installed.
Besides, it's WAY cheaper to buy and install a front locker than it is a
Truetrac, and it
can be installed in 1/4th the time since it gets installed into the stock
front carrier. I suggest either a Powertrax Lockrite or what I have, a
Powertrax No-Slip... both of which are true automatic lockers. And once
again... you cannot tell there's a locker in the front axle, I wouldn't have
installed it if I could tell or if it harmed the street manners since my TJ
is a daily driver.
Jerry
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"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:bpphtm$maf@garcia.efn.org...
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
> that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
> bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
> what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
> -jeff
>
11-23-2003, 11:36 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
If that shop said that a front Truetrac will cause problems, then you can't
trust a thing they say. I used to have Truetracs in my front and rear
axles in my TJ and I literally could not tell they were there. Totally
transparent.
That said, you're better off with a locker in the front axle since when in
2wd, you cannot tell it's there either. When I removed my front Truetrac, I
installed a front locker that I won at a 4x4 run and really, no kidding, I
can't tell it's there when I'm in 2wd. But when I'm in 4wd, what a HUGE
improvement over the
Truetrac. It's the rear axle where you can really tell when a locker is
installed.
Besides, it's WAY cheaper to buy and install a front locker than it is a
Truetrac, and it
can be installed in 1/4th the time since it gets installed into the stock
front carrier. I suggest either a Powertrax Lockrite or what I have, a
Powertrax No-Slip... both of which are true automatic lockers. And once
again... you cannot tell there's a locker in the front axle, I wouldn't have
installed it if I could tell or if it harmed the street manners since my TJ
is a daily driver.
Jerry
--
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"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:bpphtm$maf@garcia.efn.org...
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
> that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
> bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
> what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
> -jeff
>
trust a thing they say. I used to have Truetracs in my front and rear
axles in my TJ and I literally could not tell they were there. Totally
transparent.
That said, you're better off with a locker in the front axle since when in
2wd, you cannot tell it's there either. When I removed my front Truetrac, I
installed a front locker that I won at a 4x4 run and really, no kidding, I
can't tell it's there when I'm in 2wd. But when I'm in 4wd, what a HUGE
improvement over the
Truetrac. It's the rear axle where you can really tell when a locker is
installed.
Besides, it's WAY cheaper to buy and install a front locker than it is a
Truetrac, and it
can be installed in 1/4th the time since it gets installed into the stock
front carrier. I suggest either a Powertrax Lockrite or what I have, a
Powertrax No-Slip... both of which are true automatic lockers. And once
again... you cannot tell there's a locker in the front axle, I wouldn't have
installed it if I could tell or if it harmed the street manners since my TJ
is a daily driver.
Jerry
--
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"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:bpphtm$maf@garcia.efn.org...
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
> that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
> bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
> what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
> -jeff
>
11-23-2003, 11:36 AM
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Re: True-Track LSD in D30 (TJ) front axle?
If that shop said that a front Truetrac will cause problems, then you can't
trust a thing they say. I used to have Truetracs in my front and rear
axles in my TJ and I literally could not tell they were there. Totally
transparent.
That said, you're better off with a locker in the front axle since when in
2wd, you cannot tell it's there either. When I removed my front Truetrac, I
installed a front locker that I won at a 4x4 run and really, no kidding, I
can't tell it's there when I'm in 2wd. But when I'm in 4wd, what a HUGE
improvement over the
Truetrac. It's the rear axle where you can really tell when a locker is
installed.
Besides, it's WAY cheaper to buy and install a front locker than it is a
Truetrac, and it
can be installed in 1/4th the time since it gets installed into the stock
front carrier. I suggest either a Powertrax Lockrite or what I have, a
Powertrax No-Slip... both of which are true automatic lockers. And once
again... you cannot tell there's a locker in the front axle, I wouldn't have
installed it if I could tell or if it harmed the street manners since my TJ
is a daily driver.
Jerry
--
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"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:bpphtm$maf@garcia.efn.org...
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
> that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
> bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
> what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
> -jeff
>
trust a thing they say. I used to have Truetracs in my front and rear
axles in my TJ and I literally could not tell they were there. Totally
transparent.
That said, you're better off with a locker in the front axle since when in
2wd, you cannot tell it's there either. When I removed my front Truetrac, I
installed a front locker that I won at a 4x4 run and really, no kidding, I
can't tell it's there when I'm in 2wd. But when I'm in 4wd, what a HUGE
improvement over the
Truetrac. It's the rear axle where you can really tell when a locker is
installed.
Besides, it's WAY cheaper to buy and install a front locker than it is a
Truetrac, and it
can be installed in 1/4th the time since it gets installed into the stock
front carrier. I suggest either a Powertrax Lockrite or what I have, a
Powertrax No-Slip... both of which are true automatic lockers. And once
again... you cannot tell there's a locker in the front axle, I wouldn't have
installed it if I could tell or if it harmed the street manners since my TJ
is a daily driver.
Jerry
--
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"Jeff Olsen" <jeffo@efn.org> wrote in message
news:bpphtm$maf@garcia.efn.org...
> While researching an upcoming regearing project, I was told by the shop
> that my plan to put a True-Track gear driven LSD in the front axle was a
> bad idea, that it would have trouble on turns, etc. This is contrary to
> what I had heard up until then. Anyone used one and care to comment?
>
> -jeff
>