bllsht

In message <2H54d.105276$yh.101368@fed1read05>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote:

>You fawk, now you're backpedaling. I have been saying all fawking-along
>that the '97 TJ DOES NOT DISPLAY P-CODES when displaying its own
>codes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you're just saying it "stores" them... which is
>NOT the same as displaying them... or what an owner can display without an
>external reader.

You asked the OP where he got the 'P' code. Obviously you weren't aware that
the PCM stores them and will report them to an OBD II scan tool. Also obvious
is the OP used a scan tool to retrieve the code.

I told you several posts ago that if you put a scan tool on a '97 TJ, you'll get
a 'Pxxxx' formatted code. You even quoted it in your reply. I guess you don't
read well.

Your claim was the '97 TJ 'doesn't use P codes'. If the PCM 'stores the P code'
and 'reports the P code' to a scan tool, that PCM does indeed 'use P codes'.

I guess a definition of the word 'use' is in order. If you mean it won't
'display P codes in the odometer', then say so. Don't assume I can read your
mind.


<worthless BS snipped>

mic canic

you will need a scantool to figure this one out other than replacing the sensor

Enjunco8 wrote:

> I got an error codeof P 0112 says that the input from the intake air
> temperature sensor is lower than expected for the current engine operating
> conditions. Need some help solving this problem. Thanks guys

mic canic

you will need a scantool to figure this one out other than replacing the sensor

Enjunco8 wrote:

> I got an error codeof P 0112 says that the input from the intake air
> temperature sensor is lower than expected for the current engine operating
> conditions. Need some help solving this problem. Thanks guys

mic canic

you will need a scantool to figure this one out other than replacing the sensor

Enjunco8 wrote:

> I got an error codeof P 0112 says that the input from the intake air
> temperature sensor is lower than expected for the current engine operating
> conditions. Need some help solving this problem. Thanks guys

mic canic

96

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Regardless of when OBDII and OBDIII started, the '97 doesn't use those
> codes... they started sometime around the '98 model year.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:c4fvk0hv3dff86uik1sl1iun2mmg8p8jbb@4ax.com...
> > In message <vxO3d.104879$yh.65555@fed1read05>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote:
> >
> >>Yeah on later TJs but not on the '97 TJ. I have a '97 and they don't use
> >>OBDII codes. OBDII started sometime around the '98 model year.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> > OBDII started in '96.
> >

mic canic

96

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Regardless of when OBDII and OBDIII started, the '97 doesn't use those
> codes... they started sometime around the '98 model year.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:c4fvk0hv3dff86uik1sl1iun2mmg8p8jbb@4ax.com...
> > In message <vxO3d.104879$yh.65555@fed1read05>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote:
> >
> >>Yeah on later TJs but not on the '97 TJ. I have a '97 and they don't use
> >>OBDII codes. OBDII started sometime around the '98 model year.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> > OBDII started in '96.
> >

mic canic

96

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> Regardless of when OBDII and OBDIII started, the '97 doesn't use those
> codes... they started sometime around the '98 model year.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:c4fvk0hv3dff86uik1sl1iun2mmg8p8jbb@4ax.com...
> > In message <vxO3d.104879$yh.65555@fed1read05>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote:
> >
> >>Yeah on later TJs but not on the '97 TJ. I have a '97 and they don't use
> >>OBDII codes. OBDII started sometime around the '98 model year.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> > OBDII started in '96.
> >

mic canic

there actually is three difanitions of the codes mil known as count the lite
flashes. generic scan tool codes p000 and hex codes usually a 2 digit code
such as 55 or 6a with show up on the drb tool

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> WTF is wrong with you when you are guessing what the '97 TJ uses? I OWN a
> '97 and the '97 doesn't use the 'P' codes, they weren't used until around
> '98.
>
> The '97 uses the codes as found at
> ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/rec.an.../general/part3
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:31hvk09qgtb90q9qfrpo57l273vjin3rvj@4ax.com...
> > In message <zcP3d.104888$yh.68486@fed1read05>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote:
> >
> >>Regardless of when OBDII and OBDIII started, the '97 doesn't use those
> >>codes... they started sometime around the '98 model year.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> > Wrong again.
> >
> > Put a scan tool on a '96 or later vehicle with an emissions fault and
> > you'll get
> > a "Pxxxx" code. Uniform fault codes are a part of OBD II and that's the
> > way it
> > works.
> >
> >

mic canic

there actually is three difanitions of the codes mil known as count the lite
flashes. generic scan tool codes p000 and hex codes usually a 2 digit code
such as 55 or 6a with show up on the drb tool

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> WTF is wrong with you when you are guessing what the '97 TJ uses? I OWN a
> '97 and the '97 doesn't use the 'P' codes, they weren't used until around
> '98.
>
> The '97 uses the codes as found at
> ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/rec.an.../general/part3
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:31hvk09qgtb90q9qfrpo57l273vjin3rvj@4ax.com...
> > In message <zcP3d.104888$yh.68486@fed1read05>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote:
> >
> >>Regardless of when OBDII and OBDIII started, the '97 doesn't use those
> >>codes... they started sometime around the '98 model year.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> > Wrong again.
> >
> > Put a scan tool on a '96 or later vehicle with an emissions fault and
> > you'll get
> > a "Pxxxx" code. Uniform fault codes are a part of OBD II and that's the
> > way it
> > works.
> >
> >

mic canic

there actually is three difanitions of the codes mil known as count the lite
flashes. generic scan tool codes p000 and hex codes usually a 2 digit code
such as 55 or 6a with show up on the drb tool

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> WTF is wrong with you when you are guessing what the '97 TJ uses? I OWN a
> '97 and the '97 doesn't use the 'P' codes, they weren't used until around
> '98.
>
> The '97 uses the codes as found at
> ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/rec.an.../general/part3
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
> news:31hvk09qgtb90q9qfrpo57l273vjin3rvj@4ax.com...
> > In message <zcP3d.104888$yh.68486@fed1read05>, "Jerry Bransford" wrote:
> >
> >>Regardless of when OBDII and OBDIII started, the '97 doesn't use those
> >>codes... they started sometime around the '98 model year.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >
> > Wrong again.
> >
> > Put a scan tool on a '96 or later vehicle with an emissions fault and
> > you'll get
> > a "Pxxxx" code. Uniform fault codes are a part of OBD II and that's the
> > way it
> > works.
> >
> >