"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B9D62.B725F720@sympatico.ca...
> Sleestak wrote:
> > Hi Mike. I always thought that the 80s Jeep CJ T5s were of the
non-world
> > class variety. Please tell me I am wrong and that my 86 is a world
class
> > T5 :)
>
> You are wrong sort of... I forgot about that, they didn't start with
> the world class ones until 85.
>
> http://www.5speeds.com/comp.htm#t5w

You get them in TVRs ? Didn't know that. Wish I could afford that T440R - a
4.2 litre I6 that puts out 440 bhp with a 0-60 time of <4 secs and a top
speed of 215mph. Blimey. That would bring a smile to your face and a
puckering of the trousers.

Dave

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B9D62.B725F720@sympatico.ca...
> Sleestak wrote:
> > Hi Mike. I always thought that the 80s Jeep CJ T5s were of the
non-world
> > class variety. Please tell me I am wrong and that my 86 is a world
class
> > T5 :)
>
> You are wrong sort of... I forgot about that, they didn't start with
> the world class ones until 85.
>
> http://www.5speeds.com/comp.htm#t5w

You get them in TVRs ? Didn't know that. Wish I could afford that T440R - a
4.2 litre I6 that puts out 440 bhp with a 0-60 time of <4 secs and a top
speed of 215mph. Blimey. That would bring a smile to your face and a
puckering of the trousers.

Dave

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428B9D62.B725F720@sympatico.ca...
> Sleestak wrote:
> > Hi Mike. I always thought that the 80s Jeep CJ T5s were of the
non-world
> > class variety. Please tell me I am wrong and that my 86 is a world
class
> > T5 :)
>
> You are wrong sort of... I forgot about that, they didn't start with
> the world class ones until 85.
>
> http://www.5speeds.com/comp.htm#t5w

You get them in TVRs ? Didn't know that. Wish I could afford that T440R - a
4.2 litre I6 that puts out 440 bhp with a 0-60 time of <4 secs and a top
speed of 215mph. Blimey. That would bring a smile to your face and a
puckering of the trousers.

Dave

 

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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> You get them in TVRs ? Didn't know that. Wish I could afford that T440R - a
> 4.2 litre I6 that puts out 440 bhp with a 0-60 time of <4 secs and a top
> speed of 215mph. Blimey. That would bring a smile to your face and a
> puckering of the trousers.
>
> Dave

 

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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> You get them in TVRs ? Didn't know that. Wish I could afford that T440R - a
> 4.2 litre I6 that puts out 440 bhp with a 0-60 time of <4 secs and a top
> speed of 215mph. Blimey. That would bring a smile to your face and a
> puckering of the trousers.
>
> Dave

 

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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> You get them in TVRs ? Didn't know that. Wish I could afford that T440R - a
> 4.2 litre I6 that puts out 440 bhp with a 0-60 time of <4 secs and a top
> speed of 215mph. Blimey. That would bring a smile to your face and a
> puckering of the trousers.
>
> Dave

 

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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> You get them in TVRs ? Didn't know that. Wish I could afford that T440R - a
> 4.2 litre I6 that puts out 440 bhp with a 0-60 time of <4 secs and a top
> speed of 215mph. Blimey. That would bring a smile to your face and a
> puckering of the trousers.
>
> Dave

 

The only difference is the world class one is supposed to be smoother
shifting.... Same guts otherwise I believe.

My overdrive is useless with my 3.31 gears and 33's. It will still pull
along, but it lugs the engine so the gas mileage goes to crap. I stay
in 4th on the highway and get about 23 US mpg.

I don't know what the real advantage for changing unless it was cost. I
have never heard of anyone breaking the 'light' aluminum T5 case so
don't see what a cast case will add besides weight.

As Bill noted, the lower 1st is a thinner gear, but I very seldom use
1st low myself so wouldn't switch for that reason.

Mike

Rusted wrote:
>
> So do you still have a strong argument for me to keep my '83 T-5 that is non
> World Class? I do like the 1:.76 5th gear because it gives me a wider
> range of gears. I will lose that if I change transmissions.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:428B9D62.B725F720@sympatico.ca...
> > Sleestak wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> >> > Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> >> > one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
> >> >
> >> > I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> >> > limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> >> > only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
> >> >
> >> > I kinda like mine.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Hi Mike. I always thought that the 80s Jeep CJ T5s were of the non-world
> >> class variety. Please tell me I am wrong and that my 86 is a world class
> >> T5 :)
> >
> > You are wrong sort of... I forgot about that, they didn't start with
> > the world class ones until 85.
> >
> > http://www.5speeds.com/comp.htm#t5w
> >
> > So we should have one, the OP doesn't.
> >
> > Mike

 

The only difference is the world class one is supposed to be smoother
shifting.... Same guts otherwise I believe.

My overdrive is useless with my 3.31 gears and 33's. It will still pull
along, but it lugs the engine so the gas mileage goes to crap. I stay
in 4th on the highway and get about 23 US mpg.

I don't know what the real advantage for changing unless it was cost. I
have never heard of anyone breaking the 'light' aluminum T5 case so
don't see what a cast case will add besides weight.

As Bill noted, the lower 1st is a thinner gear, but I very seldom use
1st low myself so wouldn't switch for that reason.

Mike

Rusted wrote:
>
> So do you still have a strong argument for me to keep my '83 T-5 that is non
> World Class? I do like the 1:.76 5th gear because it gives me a wider
> range of gears. I will lose that if I change transmissions.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:428B9D62.B725F720@sympatico.ca...
> > Sleestak wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> >> > Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> >> > one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
> >> >
> >> > I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> >> > limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> >> > only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
> >> >
> >> > I kinda like mine.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Hi Mike. I always thought that the 80s Jeep CJ T5s were of the non-world
> >> class variety. Please tell me I am wrong and that my 86 is a world class
> >> T5 :)
> >
> > You are wrong sort of... I forgot about that, they didn't start with
> > the world class ones until 85.
> >
> > http://www.5speeds.com/comp.htm#t5w
> >
> > So we should have one, the OP doesn't.
> >
> > Mike

 

The only difference is the world class one is supposed to be smoother
shifting.... Same guts otherwise I believe.

My overdrive is useless with my 3.31 gears and 33's. It will still pull
along, but it lugs the engine so the gas mileage goes to crap. I stay
in 4th on the highway and get about 23 US mpg.

I don't know what the real advantage for changing unless it was cost. I
have never heard of anyone breaking the 'light' aluminum T5 case so
don't see what a cast case will add besides weight.

As Bill noted, the lower 1st is a thinner gear, but I very seldom use
1st low myself so wouldn't switch for that reason.

Mike

Rusted wrote:
>
> So do you still have a strong argument for me to keep my '83 T-5 that is non
> World Class? I do like the 1:.76 5th gear because it gives me a wider
> range of gears. I will lose that if I change transmissions.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:428B9D62.B725F720@sympatico.ca...
> > Sleestak wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > As far as I am aware, you now have the best combination going, the Borg
> >> > Warner 'World Class' T5 with the Dana 300 t-case. That T5 is the same
> >> > one Ford puts behind Mustang V8's and is a strong one.
> >> >
> >> > I have abused mine, run it totally dry 20 miles from a road and came
> >> > limping out with it going bang! bang! bang! in every gear except 3rd,
> >> > only to fill it up and keep on going. That was 6 years ago too....
> >> >
> >> > I kinda like mine.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Hi Mike. I always thought that the 80s Jeep CJ T5s were of the non-world
> >> class variety. Please tell me I am wrong and that my 86 is a world class
> >> T5 :)
> >
> > You are wrong sort of... I forgot about that, they didn't start with
> > the world class ones until 85.
> >
> > http://www.5speeds.com/comp.htm#t5w
> >
> > So we should have one, the OP doesn't.
> >
> > Mike