Track bar and grade bolt?
01-23-2004, 03:06 PM
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Re: Track bar and grade bolt?
And then real life steps in and all the math goes out the window....
Mike
Jim Boucher wrote:
>
> The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate tension
> strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a similar Grade
> 5.
> Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
Mike
Jim Boucher wrote:
>
> The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate tension
> strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a similar Grade
> 5.
> Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
01-23-2004, 03:06 PM
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Re: Track bar and grade bolt?
And then real life steps in and all the math goes out the window....
Mike
Jim Boucher wrote:
>
> The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate tension
> strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a similar Grade
> 5.
> Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
Mike
Jim Boucher wrote:
>
> The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate tension
> strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a similar Grade
> 5.
> Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee
01-23-2004, 03:28 PM
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Re: Track bar and grade bolt?
Mike, maybe you got a "fake" Grade 8 bolt but a Grade 8's shear strength
truly is greater than a Grade 5. A Grade 5 will DEFORM before it breaks
giving perhaps greater warning than a Grade 8 will but it will still
snap/shear before a Grade 8 will even begin to deform... but a Grade 8 will
not deform as much as a Grade 5 will before it snaps.
Jerry
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> And then real life steps in and all the math goes out the window....
>
> Mike
>
> Jim Boucher wrote:
> >
> > The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate
tension
> > strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a
similar Grade
> > 5.
> > Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
truly is greater than a Grade 5. A Grade 5 will DEFORM before it breaks
giving perhaps greater warning than a Grade 8 will but it will still
snap/shear before a Grade 8 will even begin to deform... but a Grade 8 will
not deform as much as a Grade 5 will before it snaps.
Jerry
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> And then real life steps in and all the math goes out the window....
>
> Mike
>
> Jim Boucher wrote:
> >
> > The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate
tension
> > strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a
similar Grade
> > 5.
> > Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
01-23-2004, 03:28 PM
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Re: Track bar and grade bolt?
Mike, maybe you got a "fake" Grade 8 bolt but a Grade 8's shear strength
truly is greater than a Grade 5. A Grade 5 will DEFORM before it breaks
giving perhaps greater warning than a Grade 8 will but it will still
snap/shear before a Grade 8 will even begin to deform... but a Grade 8 will
not deform as much as a Grade 5 will before it snaps.
Jerry
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> And then real life steps in and all the math goes out the window....
>
> Mike
>
> Jim Boucher wrote:
> >
> > The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate
tension
> > strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a
similar Grade
> > 5.
> > Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
truly is greater than a Grade 5. A Grade 5 will DEFORM before it breaks
giving perhaps greater warning than a Grade 8 will but it will still
snap/shear before a Grade 8 will even begin to deform... but a Grade 8 will
not deform as much as a Grade 5 will before it snaps.
Jerry
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> And then real life steps in and all the math goes out the window....
>
> Mike
>
> Jim Boucher wrote:
> >
> > The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate
tension
> > strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a
similar Grade
> > 5.
> > Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
01-23-2004, 03:28 PM
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Re: Track bar and grade bolt?
Mike, maybe you got a "fake" Grade 8 bolt but a Grade 8's shear strength
truly is greater than a Grade 5. A Grade 5 will DEFORM before it breaks
giving perhaps greater warning than a Grade 8 will but it will still
snap/shear before a Grade 8 will even begin to deform... but a Grade 8 will
not deform as much as a Grade 5 will before it snaps.
Jerry
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40117ECB.CCC8C4CD@sympatico.ca...
> And then real life steps in and all the math goes out the window....
>
> Mike
>
> Jim Boucher wrote:
> >
> > The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate
tension
> > strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a
similar Grade
> > 5.
> > Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
truly is greater than a Grade 5. A Grade 5 will DEFORM before it breaks
giving perhaps greater warning than a Grade 8 will but it will still
snap/shear before a Grade 8 will even begin to deform... but a Grade 8 will
not deform as much as a Grade 5 will before it snaps.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
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"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40117ECB.CCC8C4CD@sympatico.ca...
> And then real life steps in and all the math goes out the window....
>
> Mike
>
> Jim Boucher wrote:
> >
> > The shear strength of a fastener is typically about 60% of its ultimate
tension
> > strength. A Grade 8 bolt has a 30% higher tensile strength than a
similar Grade
> > 5.
> > Do the math. Use Grade 8.
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
01-23-2004, 03:30 PM
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01-23-2004, 03:30 PM
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01-23-2004, 03:30 PM
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01-23-2004, 04:07 PM
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Re: Track bar and grade bolt?
That can't be true though, and any bolt will break if it's too
loose. Bolts specs:
http://www.americanfastener.com/tech...ings_steel.asp
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Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I know a few folks that used them in engine mounts and they just shear
> right off. They would then blow them out of the cast with a torch and
> try again and again until finally they went back to regular no grade or
> gr. 5 at the most bolts and the problem stopped.
>
> They are/seem too hard and snap under side impact or shear force.
>
> Same for winch and tow hook mounts.
>
> Mike
loose. Bolts specs:
http://www.americanfastener.com/tech...ings_steel.asp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I know a few folks that used them in engine mounts and they just shear
> right off. They would then blow them out of the cast with a torch and
> try again and again until finally they went back to regular no grade or
> gr. 5 at the most bolts and the problem stopped.
>
> They are/seem too hard and snap under side impact or shear force.
>
> Same for winch and tow hook mounts.
>
> Mike
01-23-2004, 04:07 PM
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Re: Track bar and grade bolt?
That can't be true though, and any bolt will break if it's too
loose. Bolts specs:
http://www.americanfastener.com/tech...ings_steel.asp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I know a few folks that used them in engine mounts and they just shear
> right off. They would then blow them out of the cast with a torch and
> try again and again until finally they went back to regular no grade or
> gr. 5 at the most bolts and the problem stopped.
>
> They are/seem too hard and snap under side impact or shear force.
>
> Same for winch and tow hook mounts.
>
> Mike
loose. Bolts specs:
http://www.americanfastener.com/tech...ings_steel.asp
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I know a few folks that used them in engine mounts and they just shear
> right off. They would then blow them out of the cast with a torch and
> try again and again until finally they went back to regular no grade or
> gr. 5 at the most bolts and the problem stopped.
>
> They are/seem too hard and snap under side impact or shear force.
>
> Same for winch and tow hook mounts.
>
> Mike