billy ray proclaimed:

> I generally prefer top posting myself as I am used to it in my e-mail
> program.
> It also has the benefit of putting "new" information at the top of the
> message replies.

I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.

As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
paragraph.

>
> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the message,
> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to remember
> previous posts.

That's probably why I prefer the "inline" types of followups. My
newsreaders have always managed to flag them correctly and it helps with
declining attention span issues.
>
> I could track the thread backwards, I suppose.

Some folks regularly do the newest first.

I come from the bottom post generation, so if there are no other
followups, I will pretty much tend to bottom post one. However, if
there are already follow ups that are bottom or top posted, it just
seems easier not to rock the trend.

Except when there are multiple places in the postings, in which case it
seems more natural to me to see inlines, but that's probably from
dealing with literally several hundred emails a day on devices ranging
from multi-user servers to blackberries... and inline is about the only
way I've managed to protect my sanity.

However, on usenet, if someone complains I can switch...

>
> "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:RJXvf.88$ee6.7@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et...
>
>>On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:27:22 -0800 in
>><N4KdnZ5RVcOAqCLeRVn-hA@comcast.com>, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>>graced the world with this thought:
>>
>>
>>>Politeness is to pretty much avoid blatantly considering your own
>>>personal preferences over those of the other group members.
>>
>>Why is it so many people, in so many newsgroups, have such a problem
>>with this? Thank you for saying it, I was starting to think I was the
>>only one. I love it when someone top posts, and half the people in the
>>groups set on him like hungry dogs, and then the OP <<argues>> about
>>it. Incessantly. As a matter of fact, to the point where half the
>>newsgroup winds up KF'ing the guy. Geeze, when people ask you to do
>>things the way they're usually done in a newsgroup, why argue about
>>it?
>
>
>

 

billy ray proclaimed:

> I generally prefer top posting myself as I am used to it in my e-mail
> program.
> It also has the benefit of putting "new" information at the top of the
> message replies.

I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.

As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
paragraph.

>
> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the message,
> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to remember
> previous posts.

That's probably why I prefer the "inline" types of followups. My
newsreaders have always managed to flag them correctly and it helps with
declining attention span issues.
>
> I could track the thread backwards, I suppose.

Some folks regularly do the newest first.

I come from the bottom post generation, so if there are no other
followups, I will pretty much tend to bottom post one. However, if
there are already follow ups that are bottom or top posted, it just
seems easier not to rock the trend.

Except when there are multiple places in the postings, in which case it
seems more natural to me to see inlines, but that's probably from
dealing with literally several hundred emails a day on devices ranging
from multi-user servers to blackberries... and inline is about the only
way I've managed to protect my sanity.

However, on usenet, if someone complains I can switch...

>
> "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:RJXvf.88$ee6.7@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et...
>
>>On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:27:22 -0800 in
>><N4KdnZ5RVcOAqCLeRVn-hA@comcast.com>, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>>graced the world with this thought:
>>
>>
>>>Politeness is to pretty much avoid blatantly considering your own
>>>personal preferences over those of the other group members.
>>
>>Why is it so many people, in so many newsgroups, have such a problem
>>with this? Thank you for saying it, I was starting to think I was the
>>only one. I love it when someone top posts, and half the people in the
>>groups set on him like hungry dogs, and then the OP <<argues>> about
>>it. Incessantly. As a matter of fact, to the point where half the
>>newsgroup winds up KF'ing the guy. Geeze, when people ask you to do
>>things the way they're usually done in a newsgroup, why argue about
>>it?
>
>
>

 

billy ray proclaimed:

> I generally prefer top posting myself as I am used to it in my e-mail
> program.
> It also has the benefit of putting "new" information at the top of the
> message replies.

I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.

As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
paragraph.

>
> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the message,
> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to remember
> previous posts.

That's probably why I prefer the "inline" types of followups. My
newsreaders have always managed to flag them correctly and it helps with
declining attention span issues.
>
> I could track the thread backwards, I suppose.

Some folks regularly do the newest first.

I come from the bottom post generation, so if there are no other
followups, I will pretty much tend to bottom post one. However, if
there are already follow ups that are bottom or top posted, it just
seems easier not to rock the trend.

Except when there are multiple places in the postings, in which case it
seems more natural to me to see inlines, but that's probably from
dealing with literally several hundred emails a day on devices ranging
from multi-user servers to blackberries... and inline is about the only
way I've managed to protect my sanity.

However, on usenet, if someone complains I can switch...

>
> "bizbee" <tuberoo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:RJXvf.88$ee6.7@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.n et...
>
>>On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:27:22 -0800 in
>><N4KdnZ5RVcOAqCLeRVn-hA@comcast.com>, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>>graced the world with this thought:
>>
>>
>>>Politeness is to pretty much avoid blatantly considering your own
>>>personal preferences over those of the other group members.
>>
>>Why is it so many people, in so many newsgroups, have such a problem
>>with this? Thank you for saying it, I was starting to think I was the
>>only one. I love it when someone top posts, and half the people in the
>>groups set on him like hungry dogs, and then the OP <<argues>> about
>>it. Incessantly. As a matter of fact, to the point where half the
>>newsgroup winds up KF'ing the guy. Geeze, when people ask you to do
>>things the way they're usually done in a newsgroup, why argue about
>>it?
>
>
>

 

On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:57 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:


>I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
>Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
>follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
>character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.
>
>As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
>where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
>paragraph.
>
>>
>> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the message,
>> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to remember
>> previous posts.

Well, I know bottom posting helps in the case(which happens all too
often, still)where I see replies to a post before I actually see the
original post. Keeps everybody's thoughts in order so to speak.

If you've got OE set to text only instead of HTML, it's not that big a
thing to bottom post there, too. Forte' Agent(or Free Agent in my
case)does it automatically.
--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
"There's only 1 RE"

 

On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:57 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:


>I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
>Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
>follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
>character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.
>
>As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
>where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
>paragraph.
>
>>
>> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the message,
>> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to remember
>> previous posts.

Well, I know bottom posting helps in the case(which happens all too
often, still)where I see replies to a post before I actually see the
original post. Keeps everybody's thoughts in order so to speak.

If you've got OE set to text only instead of HTML, it's not that big a
thing to bottom post there, too. Forte' Agent(or Free Agent in my
case)does it automatically.
--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
"There's only 1 RE"

 

On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:57 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
wrote:


>I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
>Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
>follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
>character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.
>
>As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
>where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
>paragraph.
>
>>
>> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the message,
>> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to remember
>> previous posts.

Well, I know bottom posting helps in the case(which happens all too
often, still)where I see replies to a post before I actually see the
original post. Keeps everybody's thoughts in order so to speak.

If you've got OE set to text only instead of HTML, it's not that big a
thing to bottom post there, too. Forte' Agent(or Free Agent in my
case)does it automatically.
--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
"There's only 1 RE"

 

I vote for top posting. After spending a semester in Spain, and seeing
posters and graffiti complaining about "capitalismo", a Ronald McDonald who
looks a bit like Satan, Microsoft, and all the horrible things that have
been done to the beautiful and pure Spanish culture by avaricious
estadounidenses, canadienses, and alamenes, I think that we need all the
support we can get. If this means going along with Outlook Express'
sometimes quirky ideas of posting format, so be it. This reasoning is as
logical as anything that I have seen in this thread.

Earle

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:agv1s1duv859v35l82h9h6if25737tkjkk@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:57 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
> >Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
> >follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
> >character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.
> >
> >As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
> >where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
> >paragraph.
> >
> >>
> >> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the
message,
> >> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to
remember
> >> previous posts.
>
> Well, I know bottom posting helps in the case(which happens all too
> often, still)where I see replies to a post before I actually see the
> original post. Keeps everybody's thoughts in order so to speak.
>
> If you've got OE set to text only instead of HTML, it's not that big a
> thing to bottom post there, too. Forte' Agent(or Free Agent in my
> case)does it automatically.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
> "There's only 1 RE"

 

I vote for top posting. After spending a semester in Spain, and seeing
posters and graffiti complaining about "capitalismo", a Ronald McDonald who
looks a bit like Satan, Microsoft, and all the horrible things that have
been done to the beautiful and pure Spanish culture by avaricious
estadounidenses, canadienses, and alamenes, I think that we need all the
support we can get. If this means going along with Outlook Express'
sometimes quirky ideas of posting format, so be it. This reasoning is as
logical as anything that I have seen in this thread.

Earle

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:agv1s1duv859v35l82h9h6if25737tkjkk@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:57 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
> >Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
> >follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
> >character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.
> >
> >As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
> >where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
> >paragraph.
> >
> >>
> >> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the
message,
> >> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to
remember
> >> previous posts.
>
> Well, I know bottom posting helps in the case(which happens all too
> often, still)where I see replies to a post before I actually see the
> original post. Keeps everybody's thoughts in order so to speak.
>
> If you've got OE set to text only instead of HTML, it's not that big a
> thing to bottom post there, too. Forte' Agent(or Free Agent in my
> case)does it automatically.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
> "There's only 1 RE"

 

I vote for top posting. After spending a semester in Spain, and seeing
posters and graffiti complaining about "capitalismo", a Ronald McDonald who
looks a bit like Satan, Microsoft, and all the horrible things that have
been done to the beautiful and pure Spanish culture by avaricious
estadounidenses, canadienses, and alamenes, I think that we need all the
support we can get. If this means going along with Outlook Express'
sometimes quirky ideas of posting format, so be it. This reasoning is as
logical as anything that I have seen in this thread.

Earle

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:agv1s1duv859v35l82h9h6if25737tkjkk@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:57 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
> >Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
> >follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
> >character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.
> >
> >As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
> >where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
> >paragraph.
> >
> >>
> >> What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the
message,
> >> With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to
remember
> >> previous posts.
>
> Well, I know bottom posting helps in the case(which happens all too
> often, still)where I see replies to a post before I actually see the
> original post. Keeps everybody's thoughts in order so to speak.
>
> If you've got OE set to text only instead of HTML, it's not that big a
> thing to bottom post there, too. Forte' Agent(or Free Agent in my
> case)does it automatically.
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
> '74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
> "There's only 1 RE"

 

...but Ronald DOES look a bit like Satan.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
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A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
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Earle Horton wrote:
> I vote for top posting. After spending a semester in Spain, and seeing
> posters and graffiti complaining about "capitalismo", a Ronald McDonald who
> looks a bit like Satan, Microsoft, and all the horrible things that have
> been done to the beautiful and pure Spanish culture by avaricious
> estadounidenses, canadienses, and alamenes, I think that we need all the
> support we can get. If this means going along with Outlook Express'
> sometimes quirky ideas of posting format, so be it. This reasoning is as
> logical as anything that I have seen in this thread.
>
> Earle
>
> "Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:agv1s1duv859v35l82h9h6if25737tkjkk@4ax.com...
>
>>On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 19:45:57 -0800, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I suspect this may almost be generational. The folks who tend to use
>>>Outhouse Express as a news reader probably got used to the default
>>>follow up location, whereas those who got used to the older pure
>>>character mode readers and stuff like Forte' Agent got used to that.
>>>
>>>As for where "new" information belongs, I personally prefer in context
>>>where a comment about a particular paragraph is put right after that
>>>paragraph.
>>>
>>>
>>>>What bothers me is when people don't quote back any part of the
>
> message,
>
>>>>With my deteriorating mental abilities if is sometimes difficult to
>
> remember
>
>>>>previous posts.
>>
>>Well, I know bottom posting helps in the case(which happens all too
>>often, still)where I see replies to a post before I actually see the
>>original post. Keeps everybody's thoughts in order so to speak.
>>
>>If you've got OE set to text only instead of HTML, it's not that big a
>>thing to bottom post there, too. Forte' Agent(or Free Agent in my
>>case)does it automatically.
>>--
>>Old Crow
>>'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
>>'74 XLH chopper(somebody else's baby now)
>>BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM, DOF#51, DH#2
>>"There's only 1 RE"
>
>
>