Dave Milne

Apparently, the Liberty has the same towing capacity as the Grand Wagoneer..
ha ha.
which leads consumerguide.com to quote "Liberty's 5000-lb towing capacity is
tops among compact SUVs."
I bet it is ...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> True: http://www.geocities.com/jeepaccident/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I didn't mention that bit as I'm thought all export TJs have the Dana 44
?
> > Having said that, the XJ with the Dana 35c can tow more than the TJ
> > implying that Jeep don't consider the axles an issue. Like you, I'm
> > unconvinced.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Dave Milne

Apparently, the Liberty has the same towing capacity as the Grand Wagoneer..
ha ha.
which leads consumerguide.com to quote "Liberty's 5000-lb towing capacity is
tops among compact SUVs."
I bet it is ...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D17F91.E3A34AD@***.net...
> True: http://www.geocities.com/jeepaccident/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I didn't mention that bit as I'm thought all export TJs have the Dana 44
?
> > Having said that, the XJ with the Dana 35c can tow more than the TJ
> > implying that Jeep don't consider the axles an issue. Like you, I'm
> > unconvinced.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Dave Milne

Apparently, the Liberty has the same towing capacity as the Grand Wagoneer..
ha ha.
which leads consumerguide.com to quote "Liberty's 5000-lb towing capacity is
tops among compact SUVs."
I bet it is ...

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42D17F91.E3A34AD@***.net...
> True: http://www.geocities.com/jeepaccident/
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I didn't mention that bit as I'm thought all export TJs have the Dana 44
?
> > Having said that, the XJ with the Dana 35c can tow more than the TJ
> > implying that Jeep don't consider the axles an issue. Like you, I'm
> > unconvinced.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The libby gets that over here, too. It does have the Chrysler eight
inch: http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...ehicleData.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Apparently, the Liberty has the same towing capacity as the Grand Wagoneer..
> ha ha.
> which leads consumerguide.com to quote "Liberty's 5000-lb towing capacity is
> tops among compact SUVs."
> I bet it is ...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The libby gets that over here, too. It does have the Chrysler eight
inch: http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...ehicleData.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Apparently, the Liberty has the same towing capacity as the Grand Wagoneer..
> ha ha.
> which leads consumerguide.com to quote "Liberty's 5000-lb towing capacity is
> tops among compact SUVs."
> I bet it is ...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The libby gets that over here, too. It does have the Chrysler eight
inch: http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...ehicleData.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Apparently, the Liberty has the same towing capacity as the Grand Wagoneer..
> ha ha.
> which leads consumerguide.com to quote "Liberty's 5000-lb towing capacity is
> tops among compact SUVs."
> I bet it is ...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

The libby gets that over here, too. It does have the Chrysler eight
inch: http://trailmanor.com/WebDocs/Campin...ehicleData.php
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Apparently, the Liberty has the same towing capacity as the Grand Wagoneer..
> ha ha.
> which leads consumerguide.com to quote "Liberty's 5000-lb towing capacity is
> tops among compact SUVs."
> I bet it is ...
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Patrick

I'm unexperienced on that matter but what's the difference between a Dana
44s and others Dana's and does that mean i can tow my daughter's horse
trailer without worry ?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> a écrit dans le message de
news: 42D1792C.FFDCC514@***.net...
> You forgot to tell Patrick, your TJs came with Dana 44s.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> I believe the difference is in the detail.
>>
>> The US spec says 2000lb as you say.
>> The UK spec says 2000kg ( seems to have dropped to 1920kg on new models)
>> but specifies that this is with a *BRAKED* trailer.
>>
>> My trailer http://milne.info/wagoneer/trailer.jpg is a 2.7 ton GWV twin
>> axle
>> job
>> with overrun brakes on both axles; the difference in stability with this
>> type and
>> the single axle type is significant.
>>
>> I bet your horse trailer has more than one axle and proper brakes.
>>
>> The bottom line is that there is no problem with the drivetrain that
>> couldn't allow you
>> to tow more except that the wheelbase is so short that you risk
>> unstability.
>>
>> Here are some figures for Jeeps main (and better ?) rival, the LandRover
>> Defender which
>> I think proves my point ( Defender has a 90" wheel base, TJ has a 93"
>> wheel
>> base)
>>
>> Unbraked Trailer (On or Off Road): 1650lb (750 kg)
>> Trailer with Brakes:
>> Off-Road: 2200lb (1000 kg)
>> On-Road (low range): 7700lb (3500 kg)
>> On-Road (high range): 5000lb (2275 kg)
>>
>> If anything, it looks like Jeep are being less conservative than
>> LandRover !
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Patrick

I'm unexperienced on that matter but what's the difference between a Dana
44s and others Dana's and does that mean i can tow my daughter's horse
trailer without worry ?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> a écrit dans le message de
news: 42D1792C.FFDCC514@***.net...
> You forgot to tell Patrick, your TJs came with Dana 44s.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> I believe the difference is in the detail.
>>
>> The US spec says 2000lb as you say.
>> The UK spec says 2000kg ( seems to have dropped to 1920kg on new models)
>> but specifies that this is with a *BRAKED* trailer.
>>
>> My trailer http://milne.info/wagoneer/trailer.jpg is a 2.7 ton GWV twin
>> axle
>> job
>> with overrun brakes on both axles; the difference in stability with this
>> type and
>> the single axle type is significant.
>>
>> I bet your horse trailer has more than one axle and proper brakes.
>>
>> The bottom line is that there is no problem with the drivetrain that
>> couldn't allow you
>> to tow more except that the wheelbase is so short that you risk
>> unstability.
>>
>> Here are some figures for Jeeps main (and better ?) rival, the LandRover
>> Defender which
>> I think proves my point ( Defender has a 90" wheel base, TJ has a 93"
>> wheel
>> base)
>>
>> Unbraked Trailer (On or Off Road): 1650lb (750 kg)
>> Trailer with Brakes:
>> Off-Road: 2200lb (1000 kg)
>> On-Road (low range): 7700lb (3500 kg)
>> On-Road (high range): 5000lb (2275 kg)
>>
>> If anything, it looks like Jeep are being less conservative than
>> LandRover !
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Patrick

I'm unexperienced on that matter but what's the difference between a Dana
44s and others Dana's and does that mean i can tow my daughter's horse
trailer without worry ?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> a écrit dans le message de
news: 42D1792C.FFDCC514@***.net...
> You forgot to tell Patrick, your TJs came with Dana 44s.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>> I believe the difference is in the detail.
>>
>> The US spec says 2000lb as you say.
>> The UK spec says 2000kg ( seems to have dropped to 1920kg on new models)
>> but specifies that this is with a *BRAKED* trailer.
>>
>> My trailer http://milne.info/wagoneer/trailer.jpg is a 2.7 ton GWV twin
>> axle
>> job
>> with overrun brakes on both axles; the difference in stability with this
>> type and
>> the single axle type is significant.
>>
>> I bet your horse trailer has more than one axle and proper brakes.
>>
>> The bottom line is that there is no problem with the drivetrain that
>> couldn't allow you
>> to tow more except that the wheelbase is so short that you risk
>> unstability.
>>
>> Here are some figures for Jeeps main (and better ?) rival, the LandRover
>> Defender which
>> I think proves my point ( Defender has a 90" wheel base, TJ has a 93"
>> wheel
>> base)
>>
>> Unbraked Trailer (On or Off Road): 1650lb (750 kg)
>> Trailer with Brakes:
>> Off-Road: 2200lb (1000 kg)
>> On-Road (low range): 7700lb (3500 kg)
>> On-Road (high range): 5000lb (2275 kg)
>>
>> If anything, it looks like Jeep are being less conservative than
>> LandRover !
>>
>> Dave Milne, Scotland
>> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ