But you still have your Expedition, or Excursion to tot your toys,
right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> The guy who got my Tahoe is treating it like his new child. He loves it. I
> kinda miss it. At least I can visit it once in a while lol.
> KH

 

yea, I kept the expedition because I paid for it mysef, the Tahoe was a
company vehicle that got handed down to me. When I sold it the company got
the money. I like the ford it just fine, but all vehicles are hard to part
with. :)

KH



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42DF39F4.4628E9A9@***.net...
> But you still have your Expedition, or Excursion to tot your toys,
> right?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>>
>> The guy who got my Tahoe is treating it like his new child. He loves it.
>> I
>> kinda miss it. At least I can visit it once in a while lol.
>> KH

 

yea, I kept the expedition because I paid for it mysef, the Tahoe was a
company vehicle that got handed down to me. When I sold it the company got
the money. I like the ford it just fine, but all vehicles are hard to part
with. :)

KH



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42DF39F4.4628E9A9@***.net...
> But you still have your Expedition, or Excursion to tot your toys,
> right?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>>
>> The guy who got my Tahoe is treating it like his new child. He loves it.
>> I
>> kinda miss it. At least I can visit it once in a while lol.
>> KH

 

yea, I kept the expedition because I paid for it mysef, the Tahoe was a
company vehicle that got handed down to me. When I sold it the company got
the money. I like the ford it just fine, but all vehicles are hard to part
with. :)

KH



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42DF39F4.4628E9A9@***.net...
> But you still have your Expedition, or Excursion to tot your toys,
> right?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>>
>> The guy who got my Tahoe is treating it like his new child. He loves it.
>> I
>> kinda miss it. At least I can visit it once in a while lol.
>> KH

 

yea, I kept the expedition because I paid for it mysef, the Tahoe was a
company vehicle that got handed down to me. When I sold it the company got
the money. I like the ford it just fine, but all vehicles are hard to part
with. :)

KH



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42DF39F4.4628E9A9@***.net...
> But you still have your Expedition, or Excursion to tot your toys,
> right?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>>
>> The guy who got my Tahoe is treating it like his new child. He loves it.
>> I
>> kinda miss it. At least I can visit it once in a while lol.
>> KH

 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:16:12 GMT, Will Honea wrote:

> If wheel base is the primary consideration, why were the MJ - even the
> long bed versions, limited to one tow weight with standard
> transmissions and at least double the weight with an aout.

To answer your question here ... the fluid link in an automatic can
handle a high-RPM start whereas the clutch in a manual can't. With a
gas engine you need the high-RPM start because that's where the engine
gets the torque needed to move the weight of the rig. A diesel gets
its torque at lower RPMs, hence a manual there doesn't have the same
problem.

Gearing can affect the rating too. My F-150 has a 2.73 rear end and
doesn't even have a tow capacity listed in the owner's manual. My BII
has 3.73 final ratios and is rated for about double what the 3.08 in
the F-150 would be. Both are 5-speed transmissions.

Come to think of it ... the BII has the same wheelbase as the TJ (+/-
an inch or two) yet was rated to tow around 3700 lbs, IIRC. I
wouldn't be surprised if marketing and liability played a role at
least as significant as physics and engineering in determining the
ratings.

-D

--
The teaching of the wise is a fountain of life,
turning a man from the snares of death.
Proverbs 13:14

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:16:12 GMT, Will Honea wrote:

> If wheel base is the primary consideration, why were the MJ - even the
> long bed versions, limited to one tow weight with standard
> transmissions and at least double the weight with an aout.

To answer your question here ... the fluid link in an automatic can
handle a high-RPM start whereas the clutch in a manual can't. With a
gas engine you need the high-RPM start because that's where the engine
gets the torque needed to move the weight of the rig. A diesel gets
its torque at lower RPMs, hence a manual there doesn't have the same
problem.

Gearing can affect the rating too. My F-150 has a 2.73 rear end and
doesn't even have a tow capacity listed in the owner's manual. My BII
has 3.73 final ratios and is rated for about double what the 3.08 in
the F-150 would be. Both are 5-speed transmissions.

Come to think of it ... the BII has the same wheelbase as the TJ (+/-
an inch or two) yet was rated to tow around 3700 lbs, IIRC. I
wouldn't be surprised if marketing and liability played a role at
least as significant as physics and engineering in determining the
ratings.

-D

--
The teaching of the wise is a fountain of life,
turning a man from the snares of death.
Proverbs 13:14

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:16:12 GMT, Will Honea wrote:

> If wheel base is the primary consideration, why were the MJ - even the
> long bed versions, limited to one tow weight with standard
> transmissions and at least double the weight with an aout.

To answer your question here ... the fluid link in an automatic can
handle a high-RPM start whereas the clutch in a manual can't. With a
gas engine you need the high-RPM start because that's where the engine
gets the torque needed to move the weight of the rig. A diesel gets
its torque at lower RPMs, hence a manual there doesn't have the same
problem.

Gearing can affect the rating too. My F-150 has a 2.73 rear end and
doesn't even have a tow capacity listed in the owner's manual. My BII
has 3.73 final ratios and is rated for about double what the 3.08 in
the F-150 would be. Both are 5-speed transmissions.

Come to think of it ... the BII has the same wheelbase as the TJ (+/-
an inch or two) yet was rated to tow around 3700 lbs, IIRC. I
wouldn't be surprised if marketing and liability played a role at
least as significant as physics and engineering in determining the
ratings.

-D

--
The teaching of the wise is a fountain of life,
turning a man from the snares of death.
Proverbs 13:14

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org

 

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:16:12 GMT, Will Honea wrote:

> If wheel base is the primary consideration, why were the MJ - even the
> long bed versions, limited to one tow weight with standard
> transmissions and at least double the weight with an aout.

To answer your question here ... the fluid link in an automatic can
handle a high-RPM start whereas the clutch in a manual can't. With a
gas engine you need the high-RPM start because that's where the engine
gets the torque needed to move the weight of the rig. A diesel gets
its torque at lower RPMs, hence a manual there doesn't have the same
problem.

Gearing can affect the rating too. My F-150 has a 2.73 rear end and
doesn't even have a tow capacity listed in the owner's manual. My BII
has 3.73 final ratios and is rated for about double what the 3.08 in
the F-150 would be. Both are 5-speed transmissions.

Come to think of it ... the BII has the same wheelbase as the TJ (+/-
an inch or two) yet was rated to tow around 3700 lbs, IIRC. I
wouldn't be surprised if marketing and liability played a role at
least as significant as physics and engineering in determining the
ratings.

-D

--
The teaching of the wise is a fountain of life,
turning a man from the snares of death.
Proverbs 13:14

www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: dman@dman13.dyndns.org