TJ front end shimmy
08-06-2004, 01:42 PM
#21
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
off-centered position when turning.
-Fred
08-06-2004, 01:54 PM
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
Not after it's worn out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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"Fred W." wrote:
>
> The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
> box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
> You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
> position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
> off-centered position when turning.
>
> -Fred
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
> box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
> You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
> position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
> off-centered position when turning.
>
> -Fred
08-06-2004, 01:54 PM
#23
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
Not after it's worn out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
> box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
> You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
> position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
> off-centered position when turning.
>
> -Fred
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
> box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
> You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
> position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
> off-centered position when turning.
>
> -Fred
08-06-2004, 01:54 PM
#24
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
Not after it's worn out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
> box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
> You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
> position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
> off-centered position when turning.
>
> -Fred
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
> box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
> You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
> position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
> off-centered position when turning.
>
> -Fred
08-06-2004, 01:54 PM
#25
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
Not after it's worn out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
> box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
> You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
> position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
> off-centered position when turning.
>
> -Fred
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Fred W." wrote:
>
> The center of the sector is a tighter tolerance fit than off-center in the
> box? That's how most RB steering boxes are designed for this very reason.
> You really only need it to be a "close fit" in the centered (straight ahead)
> position as the "return to center" forces will take up any slop in the
> off-centered position when turning.
>
> -Fred
08-06-2004, 02:28 PM
#26
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
That is just the preload on that box Bill.
You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
will burn out.
The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
man it is soo precise 'or else'.
The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
the end play.
I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
odd parts.
The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
figured the box got bent some time in the past.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Spark wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to tighten up the steering box? I had an adjuster on some of
> > my other vehicles.
You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
will burn out.
The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
man it is soo precise 'or else'.
The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
the end play.
I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
odd parts.
The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
figured the box got bent some time in the past.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Spark wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to tighten up the steering box? I had an adjuster on some of
> > my other vehicles.
08-06-2004, 02:28 PM
#27
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
That is just the preload on that box Bill.
You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
will burn out.
The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
man it is soo precise 'or else'.
The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
the end play.
I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
odd parts.
The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
figured the box got bent some time in the past.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Spark wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to tighten up the steering box? I had an adjuster on some of
> > my other vehicles.
You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
will burn out.
The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
man it is soo precise 'or else'.
The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
the end play.
I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
odd parts.
The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
figured the box got bent some time in the past.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Spark wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to tighten up the steering box? I had an adjuster on some of
> > my other vehicles.
08-06-2004, 02:28 PM
#28
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
That is just the preload on that box Bill.
You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
will burn out.
The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
man it is soo precise 'or else'.
The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
the end play.
I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
odd parts.
The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
figured the box got bent some time in the past.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Spark wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to tighten up the steering box? I had an adjuster on some of
> > my other vehicles.
You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
will burn out.
The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
man it is soo precise 'or else'.
The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
the end play.
I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
odd parts.
The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
figured the box got bent some time in the past.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Spark wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to tighten up the steering box? I had an adjuster on some of
> > my other vehicles.
08-06-2004, 02:28 PM
#29
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
That is just the preload on that box Bill.
You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
will burn out.
The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
man it is soo precise 'or else'.
The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
the end play.
I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
odd parts.
The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
figured the box got bent some time in the past.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Spark wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to tighten up the steering box? I had an adjuster on some of
> > my other vehicles.
You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
will burn out.
The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
man it is soo precise 'or else'.
The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
the end play.
I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
odd parts.
The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
figured the box got bent some time in the past.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> There is a lock nut and screw bolt at the center of cover to adjust
> the sector against the teeth of the worm piston:
> http://www.----------.com/97TJpowersteering.pdf But, usually taking up
> the slack straight ahead, binds it on turns. You need a new box.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Spark wrote:
> >
> > Is there a way to tighten up the steering box? I had an adjuster on some of
> > my other vehicles.
08-06-2004, 02:51 PM
#30
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Re: TJ front end shimmy
That's why I suggested a new box.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That is just the preload on that box Bill.
>
> You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
> will burn out.
>
> The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
> screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
> man it is soo precise 'or else'.
>
> The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
> slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
> the end play.
>
> I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
> with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
> steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
> odd parts.
>
> The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
> the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
> he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
> figured the box got bent some time in the past.
>
> Mike
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> That is just the preload on that box Bill.
>
> You 'really' don't want that tighter than spec or you are right, the box
> will burn out.
>
> The adjustment on that is so twitchy just having a pitman arm on will
> screw it up. I watched a pro do the final tune on one I helped with and
> man it is soo precise 'or else'.
>
> The main adjuster is the end plug on the column end. If this is even
> slightly off, the steering wheel will float side to side. It controls
> the end play.
>
> I was given odd parts (adjuster plug) to fit in the box I was helping
> with and I couldn't get it to adjust (best I could do was 5" of free
> steering wheel play) so we took it to the shop that gave my friend the
> odd parts.
>
> The pro in the steering shop got it, but it was a real bugger even with
> the special tools. 3 times the wrench went flying across the shop while
> he was trying to adjust the stub shaft end play adjuster plug. He
> figured the box got bent some time in the past.
>
> Mike