TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
10-20-2004, 12:35 PM
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TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44 I
have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI, my
shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access to
a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them on,
however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there better
dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will be
my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them on
to my jeep.
WGB
Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44 I
have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI, my
shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access to
a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them on,
however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there better
dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will be
my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them on
to my jeep.
WGB
10-20-2004, 12:48 PM
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Well, all you have to do is measure them to see if they're the right width.
You can buy a complete TJ bracket kit from Rubicon Express for $300 or a
slightly beefier set at M.O.R.E. for $400.
I wouldn't bother installing the D44 up front. The D30 is strong enough for
most wheeling activities (certainly not all) up to the 35" tire size. Plus
the 297 u-joint on your Dana 30 is as strong as the one on a Dana 44 and is
usually the weak link anyway... so unless you upgraded the D44's u-joints
too, the Dana 44's stronger ring & pinion gears are not much of a factor.
Jerry
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"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
>I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
> I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
> my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
> to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
> on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
> better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
> be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
> on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
You can buy a complete TJ bracket kit from Rubicon Express for $300 or a
slightly beefier set at M.O.R.E. for $400.
I wouldn't bother installing the D44 up front. The D30 is strong enough for
most wheeling activities (certainly not all) up to the 35" tire size. Plus
the 297 u-joint on your Dana 30 is as strong as the one on a Dana 44 and is
usually the weak link anyway... so unless you upgraded the D44's u-joints
too, the Dana 44's stronger ring & pinion gears are not much of a factor.
Jerry
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
>I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
> I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
> my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
> to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
> on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
> better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
> be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
> on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
10-20-2004, 12:48 PM
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Well, all you have to do is measure them to see if they're the right width.
You can buy a complete TJ bracket kit from Rubicon Express for $300 or a
slightly beefier set at M.O.R.E. for $400.
I wouldn't bother installing the D44 up front. The D30 is strong enough for
most wheeling activities (certainly not all) up to the 35" tire size. Plus
the 297 u-joint on your Dana 30 is as strong as the one on a Dana 44 and is
usually the weak link anyway... so unless you upgraded the D44's u-joints
too, the Dana 44's stronger ring & pinion gears are not much of a factor.
Jerry
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
>I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
> I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
> my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
> to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
> on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
> better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
> be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
> on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
You can buy a complete TJ bracket kit from Rubicon Express for $300 or a
slightly beefier set at M.O.R.E. for $400.
I wouldn't bother installing the D44 up front. The D30 is strong enough for
most wheeling activities (certainly not all) up to the 35" tire size. Plus
the 297 u-joint on your Dana 30 is as strong as the one on a Dana 44 and is
usually the weak link anyway... so unless you upgraded the D44's u-joints
too, the Dana 44's stronger ring & pinion gears are not much of a factor.
Jerry
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
>I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
> I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
> my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
> to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
> on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
> better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
> be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
> on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
10-20-2004, 12:48 PM
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Well, all you have to do is measure them to see if they're the right width.
You can buy a complete TJ bracket kit from Rubicon Express for $300 or a
slightly beefier set at M.O.R.E. for $400.
I wouldn't bother installing the D44 up front. The D30 is strong enough for
most wheeling activities (certainly not all) up to the 35" tire size. Plus
the 297 u-joint on your Dana 30 is as strong as the one on a Dana 44 and is
usually the weak link anyway... so unless you upgraded the D44's u-joints
too, the Dana 44's stronger ring & pinion gears are not much of a factor.
Jerry
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
>I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
> I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
> my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
> to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
> on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
> better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
> be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
> on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
You can buy a complete TJ bracket kit from Rubicon Express for $300 or a
slightly beefier set at M.O.R.E. for $400.
I wouldn't bother installing the D44 up front. The D30 is strong enough for
most wheeling activities (certainly not all) up to the 35" tire size. Plus
the 297 u-joint on your Dana 30 is as strong as the one on a Dana 44 and is
usually the weak link anyway... so unless you upgraded the D44's u-joints
too, the Dana 44's stronger ring & pinion gears are not much of a factor.
Jerry
--
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
>I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
> I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
> my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
> to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
> on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
> better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
> be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
> on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
10-20-2004, 04:51 PM
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Yes.
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Witek Busse wrote:
>
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44 I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI, my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Witek Busse wrote:
>
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44 I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI, my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
10-20-2004, 04:51 PM
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Yes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Witek Busse wrote:
>
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44 I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI, my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Witek Busse wrote:
>
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44 I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI, my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
10-20-2004, 04:51 PM
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Yes.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Witek Busse wrote:
>
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44 I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI, my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Witek Busse wrote:
>
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44 I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI, my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
10-20-2004, 05:38 PM
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Those D44s from the Scout suck in a big way. Avoid the hassle and just drop
them at my house. I'll dispose of them properly.
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
them at my house. I'll dispose of them properly.
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
10-20-2004, 05:38 PM
#9
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Those D44s from the Scout suck in a big way. Avoid the hassle and just drop
them at my house. I'll dispose of them properly.
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
them at my house. I'll dispose of them properly.
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
10-20-2004, 05:38 PM
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Re: TJ Dana 44 axle converstion
Those D44s from the Scout suck in a big way. Avoid the hassle and just drop
them at my house. I'll dispose of them properly.
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>
them at my house. I'll dispose of them properly.
"Witek Busse" <wbusse@REMOVEfilterlogix.com> wrote in message
news:10nd4so7j8bn4e4@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a '97 TJ sport. My brother gave me two dana 44 axles from his 1972
> Scout II (rear and front). The question I have is: How hard is it to swap
> the Dana 30/35's from my current jeep and put these on. Are there any
> resources on the internet which show how to do this swap. Are the dana 44
I
> have too wide and would I have to narrow them? or other way around? FYI,
my
> shop has a TIG welder a large lathe and a bridgeport mill., I have access
to
> a MIG welder as well. So, I have metalworking experiance - hobbiest for
> the last 7 years, so I am not affraid of making brakets and welding them
on,
> however I need to know if this project is worth the time or are there
better
> dana 44 axles out there. Basically I can do farbrication , but this will
be
> my first jeep project. Any help is appreciated. Lastly, I plan on
> offroading and since I got these two axles I would not mind putting them
on
> to my jeep.
>
> WGB
>
>