tires - patterns different L vs R
05-02-2005, 12:48 PM
#51
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Re: tires - patterns different L vs R
You're not getting it. The tires are not actually different. If they were
directional, they would actually have a tread design - body design really -
that would demand the tire be on a particular side of the vehicle. But if
the tires had a pattern to them, then the pattern would appear to be biased
to the front on one side of the car, and biased to the rear on the other
side of the car. Directional tires would all be biased to the rear.
Take a look at the factory rims that come on lots of GM products. The rims
will have spokes that point to the front on one side and to the rear on the
other side. If the rims are switched from one side to the other, they still
point the same way because if you laid them all on the ground side by side,
you would see they all point the same way. This guy is seeing the same thing
in his tire tread.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42762936.E191A611@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ok so which way am I going to drive today then eh? Do I flip the rims
> because I will mostly be making right turns today or put them on the
> other way because the route is mostly left turns?
>
> That makes absolutely no sense at all Jeff unless these are oval track
> tires or something.
>
> How about a brand name for these stupid tires so we all can avoid them?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > No Mike. The tires are all the same, but when mounted on the Left, they
> > appear to point frontwards and when mounted on the Right they look like
they
> > point backwards. The tires are NOT directional, this is why they don't
point
> > the "right" way on both sides of the car.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42755C98.A80DD3ED@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, they are making a ton of performance directional tires these
days.
> > > It really sounds like one set is on backward.
> > >
> > > If you look on the side there will be an arrow if the tires are
> > > directional.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Phil Schuman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi +
jeep.
> > >> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> > >> something.
> > >>
> > >> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> > >> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
> > >>
> > >> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> > >> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> > >> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> > >> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
> > >>
> > >> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> > >> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> > >> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
directional, they would actually have a tread design - body design really -
that would demand the tire be on a particular side of the vehicle. But if
the tires had a pattern to them, then the pattern would appear to be biased
to the front on one side of the car, and biased to the rear on the other
side of the car. Directional tires would all be biased to the rear.
Take a look at the factory rims that come on lots of GM products. The rims
will have spokes that point to the front on one side and to the rear on the
other side. If the rims are switched from one side to the other, they still
point the same way because if you laid them all on the ground side by side,
you would see they all point the same way. This guy is seeing the same thing
in his tire tread.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42762936.E191A611@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ok so which way am I going to drive today then eh? Do I flip the rims
> because I will mostly be making right turns today or put them on the
> other way because the route is mostly left turns?
>
> That makes absolutely no sense at all Jeff unless these are oval track
> tires or something.
>
> How about a brand name for these stupid tires so we all can avoid them?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > No Mike. The tires are all the same, but when mounted on the Left, they
> > appear to point frontwards and when mounted on the Right they look like
they
> > point backwards. The tires are NOT directional, this is why they don't
point
> > the "right" way on both sides of the car.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42755C98.A80DD3ED@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, they are making a ton of performance directional tires these
days.
> > > It really sounds like one set is on backward.
> > >
> > > If you look on the side there will be an arrow if the tires are
> > > directional.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Phil Schuman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi +
jeep.
> > >> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> > >> something.
> > >>
> > >> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> > >> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
> > >>
> > >> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> > >> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> > >> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> > >> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
> > >>
> > >> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> > >> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> > >> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
05-02-2005, 12:48 PM
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tires - patterns different L vs R
You're not getting it. The tires are not actually different. If they were
directional, they would actually have a tread design - body design really -
that would demand the tire be on a particular side of the vehicle. But if
the tires had a pattern to them, then the pattern would appear to be biased
to the front on one side of the car, and biased to the rear on the other
side of the car. Directional tires would all be biased to the rear.
Take a look at the factory rims that come on lots of GM products. The rims
will have spokes that point to the front on one side and to the rear on the
other side. If the rims are switched from one side to the other, they still
point the same way because if you laid them all on the ground side by side,
you would see they all point the same way. This guy is seeing the same thing
in his tire tread.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42762936.E191A611@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ok so which way am I going to drive today then eh? Do I flip the rims
> because I will mostly be making right turns today or put them on the
> other way because the route is mostly left turns?
>
> That makes absolutely no sense at all Jeff unless these are oval track
> tires or something.
>
> How about a brand name for these stupid tires so we all can avoid them?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > No Mike. The tires are all the same, but when mounted on the Left, they
> > appear to point frontwards and when mounted on the Right they look like
they
> > point backwards. The tires are NOT directional, this is why they don't
point
> > the "right" way on both sides of the car.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42755C98.A80DD3ED@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, they are making a ton of performance directional tires these
days.
> > > It really sounds like one set is on backward.
> > >
> > > If you look on the side there will be an arrow if the tires are
> > > directional.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Phil Schuman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi +
jeep.
> > >> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> > >> something.
> > >>
> > >> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> > >> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
> > >>
> > >> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> > >> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> > >> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> > >> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
> > >>
> > >> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> > >> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> > >> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
directional, they would actually have a tread design - body design really -
that would demand the tire be on a particular side of the vehicle. But if
the tires had a pattern to them, then the pattern would appear to be biased
to the front on one side of the car, and biased to the rear on the other
side of the car. Directional tires would all be biased to the rear.
Take a look at the factory rims that come on lots of GM products. The rims
will have spokes that point to the front on one side and to the rear on the
other side. If the rims are switched from one side to the other, they still
point the same way because if you laid them all on the ground side by side,
you would see they all point the same way. This guy is seeing the same thing
in his tire tread.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42762936.E191A611@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ok so which way am I going to drive today then eh? Do I flip the rims
> because I will mostly be making right turns today or put them on the
> other way because the route is mostly left turns?
>
> That makes absolutely no sense at all Jeff unless these are oval track
> tires or something.
>
> How about a brand name for these stupid tires so we all can avoid them?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > No Mike. The tires are all the same, but when mounted on the Left, they
> > appear to point frontwards and when mounted on the Right they look like
they
> > point backwards. The tires are NOT directional, this is why they don't
point
> > the "right" way on both sides of the car.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42755C98.A80DD3ED@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, they are making a ton of performance directional tires these
days.
> > > It really sounds like one set is on backward.
> > >
> > > If you look on the side there will be an arrow if the tires are
> > > directional.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Phil Schuman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi +
jeep.
> > >> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> > >> something.
> > >>
> > >> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> > >> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
> > >>
> > >> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> > >> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> > >> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> > >> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
> > >>
> > >> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> > >> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> > >> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
05-02-2005, 12:48 PM
#53
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tires - patterns different L vs R
You're not getting it. The tires are not actually different. If they were
directional, they would actually have a tread design - body design really -
that would demand the tire be on a particular side of the vehicle. But if
the tires had a pattern to them, then the pattern would appear to be biased
to the front on one side of the car, and biased to the rear on the other
side of the car. Directional tires would all be biased to the rear.
Take a look at the factory rims that come on lots of GM products. The rims
will have spokes that point to the front on one side and to the rear on the
other side. If the rims are switched from one side to the other, they still
point the same way because if you laid them all on the ground side by side,
you would see they all point the same way. This guy is seeing the same thing
in his tire tread.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42762936.E191A611@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ok so which way am I going to drive today then eh? Do I flip the rims
> because I will mostly be making right turns today or put them on the
> other way because the route is mostly left turns?
>
> That makes absolutely no sense at all Jeff unless these are oval track
> tires or something.
>
> How about a brand name for these stupid tires so we all can avoid them?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > No Mike. The tires are all the same, but when mounted on the Left, they
> > appear to point frontwards and when mounted on the Right they look like
they
> > point backwards. The tires are NOT directional, this is why they don't
point
> > the "right" way on both sides of the car.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42755C98.A80DD3ED@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, they are making a ton of performance directional tires these
days.
> > > It really sounds like one set is on backward.
> > >
> > > If you look on the side there will be an arrow if the tires are
> > > directional.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Phil Schuman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi +
jeep.
> > >> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> > >> something.
> > >>
> > >> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> > >> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
> > >>
> > >> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> > >> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> > >> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> > >> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
> > >>
> > >> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> > >> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> > >> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
directional, they would actually have a tread design - body design really -
that would demand the tire be on a particular side of the vehicle. But if
the tires had a pattern to them, then the pattern would appear to be biased
to the front on one side of the car, and biased to the rear on the other
side of the car. Directional tires would all be biased to the rear.
Take a look at the factory rims that come on lots of GM products. The rims
will have spokes that point to the front on one side and to the rear on the
other side. If the rims are switched from one side to the other, they still
point the same way because if you laid them all on the ground side by side,
you would see they all point the same way. This guy is seeing the same thing
in his tire tread.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42762936.E191A611@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Ok so which way am I going to drive today then eh? Do I flip the rims
> because I will mostly be making right turns today or put them on the
> other way because the route is mostly left turns?
>
> That makes absolutely no sense at all Jeff unless these are oval track
> tires or something.
>
> How about a brand name for these stupid tires so we all can avoid them?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > No Mike. The tires are all the same, but when mounted on the Left, they
> > appear to point frontwards and when mounted on the Right they look like
they
> > point backwards. The tires are NOT directional, this is why they don't
point
> > the "right" way on both sides of the car.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42755C98.A80DD3ED@sympatico.ca...
> > > Umm, they are making a ton of performance directional tires these
days.
> > > It really sounds like one set is on backward.
> > >
> > > If you look on the side there will be an arrow if the tires are
> > > directional.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Phil Schuman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi +
jeep.
> > >> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> > >> something.
> > >>
> > >> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> > >> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
> > >>
> > >> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> > >> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> > >> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> > >> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
> > >>
> > >> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> > >> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> > >> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
05-04-2005, 06:01 AM
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tires - patterns different L vs R
Directional tyres can be rotated side to side as long as you turn them on
the rims. If irregular wear is found, turn on the rims and move to other
side of car.
Peter
"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:YMcde.875$Yg4.385@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi + jeep.
> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> something.
>
> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
>
> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
>
> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
>
>
>
the rims. If irregular wear is found, turn on the rims and move to other
side of car.
Peter
"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:YMcde.875$Yg4.385@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi + jeep.
> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> something.
>
> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
>
> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
>
> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
>
>
>
05-04-2005, 06:01 AM
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tires - patterns different L vs R
Directional tyres can be rotated side to side as long as you turn them on
the rims. If irregular wear is found, turn on the rims and move to other
side of car.
Peter
"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:YMcde.875$Yg4.385@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi + jeep.
> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> something.
>
> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
>
> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
>
> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
>
>
>
the rims. If irregular wear is found, turn on the rims and move to other
side of car.
Peter
"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:YMcde.875$Yg4.385@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi + jeep.
> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> something.
>
> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
>
> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
>
> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
>
>
>
05-04-2005, 06:01 AM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tires - patterns different L vs R
Directional tyres can be rotated side to side as long as you turn them on
the rims. If irregular wear is found, turn on the rims and move to other
side of car.
Peter
"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:YMcde.875$Yg4.385@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi + jeep.
> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> something.
>
> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
>
> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
>
> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
>
>
>
the rims. If irregular wear is found, turn on the rims and move to other
side of car.
Peter
"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:YMcde.875$Yg4.385@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi + jeep.
> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> something.
>
> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
>
> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
>
> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
>
>
>
05-04-2005, 06:01 AM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tires - patterns different L vs R
Directional tyres can be rotated side to side as long as you turn them on
the rims. If irregular wear is found, turn on the rims and move to other
side of car.
Peter
"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:YMcde.875$Yg4.385@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi + jeep.
> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> something.
>
> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
>
> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
>
> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
>
>
>
the rims. If irregular wear is found, turn on the rims and move to other
side of car.
Peter
"Phil Schuman" <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote in message
news:YMcde.875$Yg4.385@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com. ..
> One of our cars happen to have a flat today. We have mitsubishi + jeep.
> After taking it to the local shop for a test & mount, I noticed
> something.
>
> It appears that when they mount the tires on the wheels,
> the tread pattern is not the same on the left & right.
>
> In other words, let's say the tread "points" to the rear on the left,
> but it "points" to the front on the right side.
> I could see where there might be "lettering" only on one side,
> but on pure blackwalls, it just seemed odd...
>
> I guess the tires are mounted on all wheels the exact same way,
> and therefore two of them are "reversed" depending
> upon which side of the car it is mounted...
>
>
>
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