Tire Size Question
#71
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Re: Tire Size Question
Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
>>of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
>>ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
>>ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
>>than the additional wear on the bearings?)
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>> To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it is,
>>>that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
>>>lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
>>>that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
>>>flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
>>>hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
>>>pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of a
>>>second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
>>>great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like road
>>>racers need independent suspension to win.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of sprung
>>>>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
>>of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
>>ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
>>ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
>>than the additional wear on the bearings?)
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>> To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it is,
>>>that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
>>>lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
>>>that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
>>>flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
>>>hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
>>>pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of a
>>>second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
>>>great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like road
>>>racers need independent suspension to win.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of sprung
>>>>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#72
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Re: Tire Size Question
Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
>>of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
>>ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
>>ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
>>than the additional wear on the bearings?)
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>> To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it is,
>>>that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
>>>lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
>>>that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
>>>flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
>>>hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
>>>pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of a
>>>second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
>>>great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like road
>>>racers need independent suspension to win.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of sprung
>>>>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
>>of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
>>ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
>>ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
>>than the additional wear on the bearings?)
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>> To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it is,
>>>that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
>>>lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
>>>that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
>>>flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
>>>hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
>>>pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of a
>>>second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
>>>great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like road
>>>racers need independent suspension to win.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of sprung
>>>>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#73
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Re: Tire Size Question
Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
>>of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
>>ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
>>ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
>>than the additional wear on the bearings?)
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>> To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it is,
>>>that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
>>>lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
>>>that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
>>>flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
>>>hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
>>>pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of a
>>>second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
>>>great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like road
>>>racers need independent suspension to win.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of sprung
>>>>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
>
>>The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
>>of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
>>ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
>>ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
>>than the additional wear on the bearings?)
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Dave,
>>> To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it is,
>>>that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
>>>lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
>>>that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
>>>flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
>>>hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
>>>pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of a
>>>second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
>>>great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like road
>>>racers need independent suspension to win.
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of sprung
>>>>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
>>>>
>>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#74
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Re: Tire Size Question
I have, along with calculus.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
#75
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Re: Tire Size Question
I have, along with calculus.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
#76
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Re: Tire Size Question
I have, along with calculus.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
#77
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Re: Tire Size Question
I have, along with calculus.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
RoyJ wrote:
>
> Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
#78
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Re: Tire Size Question
In that case you remember this.
"Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of
motion unless an external force is applied to it."
This is Newton's First Law of Motion, which is essentially the same as
Galileo's concept of Inertia. You do not observe this principle in the case
of a vehicle, because rubber tires dissipate energy and there is friction in
the wheel bearings and air resistance. These three factors have nothing to
do with the mass of the wheel and tire combination. However, mountain bike
tires will be filled to a lower air pressure than road racing bike tires,
and so will dissipate more energy. The same holds for any larger than stock
tire on a Jeep.
I have not done or seen any formal study, but I think that the main factor
to consider when changing tires is to maintain the same rpm to road speed
ratio. This is what we call "gear inches" in the bicycle trade. How far do
you go for each turn of the crank? If you change this factor, you will
change available power and economy, in many cases for the worst.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42CA1296.77FA767A@***.net...
> I have, along with calculus.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
"Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of
motion unless an external force is applied to it."
This is Newton's First Law of Motion, which is essentially the same as
Galileo's concept of Inertia. You do not observe this principle in the case
of a vehicle, because rubber tires dissipate energy and there is friction in
the wheel bearings and air resistance. These three factors have nothing to
do with the mass of the wheel and tire combination. However, mountain bike
tires will be filled to a lower air pressure than road racing bike tires,
and so will dissipate more energy. The same holds for any larger than stock
tire on a Jeep.
I have not done or seen any formal study, but I think that the main factor
to consider when changing tires is to maintain the same rpm to road speed
ratio. This is what we call "gear inches" in the bicycle trade. How far do
you go for each turn of the crank? If you change this factor, you will
change available power and economy, in many cases for the worst.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42CA1296.77FA767A@***.net...
> I have, along with calculus.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
#79
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Re: Tire Size Question
In that case you remember this.
"Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of
motion unless an external force is applied to it."
This is Newton's First Law of Motion, which is essentially the same as
Galileo's concept of Inertia. You do not observe this principle in the case
of a vehicle, because rubber tires dissipate energy and there is friction in
the wheel bearings and air resistance. These three factors have nothing to
do with the mass of the wheel and tire combination. However, mountain bike
tires will be filled to a lower air pressure than road racing bike tires,
and so will dissipate more energy. The same holds for any larger than stock
tire on a Jeep.
I have not done or seen any formal study, but I think that the main factor
to consider when changing tires is to maintain the same rpm to road speed
ratio. This is what we call "gear inches" in the bicycle trade. How far do
you go for each turn of the crank? If you change this factor, you will
change available power and economy, in many cases for the worst.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42CA1296.77FA767A@***.net...
> I have, along with calculus.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
"Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of
motion unless an external force is applied to it."
This is Newton's First Law of Motion, which is essentially the same as
Galileo's concept of Inertia. You do not observe this principle in the case
of a vehicle, because rubber tires dissipate energy and there is friction in
the wheel bearings and air resistance. These three factors have nothing to
do with the mass of the wheel and tire combination. However, mountain bike
tires will be filled to a lower air pressure than road racing bike tires,
and so will dissipate more energy. The same holds for any larger than stock
tire on a Jeep.
I have not done or seen any formal study, but I think that the main factor
to consider when changing tires is to maintain the same rpm to road speed
ratio. This is what we call "gear inches" in the bicycle trade. How far do
you go for each turn of the crank? If you change this factor, you will
change available power and economy, in many cases for the worst.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42CA1296.77FA767A@***.net...
> I have, along with calculus.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
#80
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Re: Tire Size Question
In that case you remember this.
"Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of
motion unless an external force is applied to it."
This is Newton's First Law of Motion, which is essentially the same as
Galileo's concept of Inertia. You do not observe this principle in the case
of a vehicle, because rubber tires dissipate energy and there is friction in
the wheel bearings and air resistance. These three factors have nothing to
do with the mass of the wheel and tire combination. However, mountain bike
tires will be filled to a lower air pressure than road racing bike tires,
and so will dissipate more energy. The same holds for any larger than stock
tire on a Jeep.
I have not done or seen any formal study, but I think that the main factor
to consider when changing tires is to maintain the same rpm to road speed
ratio. This is what we call "gear inches" in the bicycle trade. How far do
you go for each turn of the crank? If you change this factor, you will
change available power and economy, in many cases for the worst.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42CA1296.77FA767A@***.net...
> I have, along with calculus.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.
"Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of
motion unless an external force is applied to it."
This is Newton's First Law of Motion, which is essentially the same as
Galileo's concept of Inertia. You do not observe this principle in the case
of a vehicle, because rubber tires dissipate energy and there is friction in
the wheel bearings and air resistance. These three factors have nothing to
do with the mass of the wheel and tire combination. However, mountain bike
tires will be filled to a lower air pressure than road racing bike tires,
and so will dissipate more energy. The same holds for any larger than stock
tire on a Jeep.
I have not done or seen any formal study, but I think that the main factor
to consider when changing tires is to maintain the same rpm to road speed
ratio. This is what we call "gear inches" in the bicycle trade. How far do
you go for each turn of the crank? If you change this factor, you will
change available power and economy, in many cases for the worst.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42CA1296.77FA767A@***.net...
> I have, along with calculus.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> RoyJ wrote:
> >
> > Blather. Go take an introductory physics course.