Tire Size Question
07-04-2005, 01:59 PM
#51
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Re: Tire Size Question
Hi Earle,
Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
speed of light.
Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
>
> Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> him down, but not for the reasons you state.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > RoyJ wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > >
> > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> is,
> > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> a
> > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> road
> > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> sprung
> > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
speed of light.
Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
>
> Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> him down, but not for the reasons you state.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > RoyJ wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > >
> > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> is,
> > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> a
> > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> road
> > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> sprung
> > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 01:59 PM
#52
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Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
Hi Earle,
Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
speed of light.
Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
>
> Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> him down, but not for the reasons you state.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > RoyJ wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > >
> > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> is,
> > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> a
> > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> road
> > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> sprung
> > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
speed of light.
Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
>
> Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> him down, but not for the reasons you state.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > RoyJ wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > >
> > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> is,
> > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> a
> > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> road
> > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> sprung
> > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 01:59 PM
#53
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Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
Hi Earle,
Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
speed of light.
Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
>
> Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> him down, but not for the reasons you state.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > RoyJ wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > >
> > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> is,
> > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> a
> > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> road
> > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> sprung
> > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
speed of light.
Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
>
> Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> him down, but not for the reasons you state.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > RoyJ wrote:
> > >
> > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > >
> > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> is,
> > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> a
> > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> road
> > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> sprung
> > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 03:11 PM
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
a gyroscope run forever
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Earle,
> Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> speed of light.
> Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> >
> > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > >
> > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> > is,
> > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> > a
> > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> > road
> > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> > sprung
> > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
a gyroscope run forever
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Earle,
> Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> speed of light.
> Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> >
> > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > >
> > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> > is,
> > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> > a
> > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> > road
> > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> > sprung
> > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 03:11 PM
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
a gyroscope run forever
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Earle,
> Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> speed of light.
> Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> >
> > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > >
> > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> > is,
> > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> > a
> > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> > road
> > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> > sprung
> > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
a gyroscope run forever
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Earle,
> Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> speed of light.
> Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> >
> > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > >
> > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> > is,
> > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> > a
> > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> > road
> > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> > sprung
> > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 03:11 PM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
a gyroscope run forever
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Earle,
> Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> speed of light.
> Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> >
> > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > >
> > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> > is,
> > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> > a
> > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> > road
> > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> > sprung
> > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
a gyroscope run forever
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Earle,
> Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> speed of light.
> Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> >
> > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > >
> > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> > is,
> > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> > a
> > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> > road
> > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> > sprung
> > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 03:11 PM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
a gyroscope run forever
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Earle,
> Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> speed of light.
> Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> >
> > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > >
> > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> > is,
> > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> > a
> > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> > road
> > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> > sprung
> > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
a gyroscope run forever
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Earle,
> Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> speed of light.
> Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >
> > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called "moment of
> > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2 IR²,
> > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where m is
> > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> >
> > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy required
> > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses are
> > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit card
> > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the need to
> > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels would slow
> > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle your
> > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc². The E
> > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar to
> > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed of
> > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel are
> > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum ACCELERATION
> > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state? (other
> > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > >
> > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier it
> > is,
> > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum flywheel and
> > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores energy,
> > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple of
> > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your hundred
> > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a tenth of
> > a
> > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it makes a
> > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability, like
> > road
> > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb of
> > sprung
> > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 03:26 PM
#58
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Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
I didn't invent perpetual motion. Newton did. The wheel would keep
spinning forever, except for friction from the bearings, road and air. What
keeps the Earth spinning? What happened to Stephen Cowell, anyway?
I think that we need his expert opinion here.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C989FF.5B651FB4@***.net...
> Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
> never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
> a gyroscope run forever
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Earle,
> > Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> > speed of light.
> > Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> > in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> > if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> > of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called
"moment of
> > > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2
IR²,
> > > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where
m is
> > > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> > >
> > > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy
required
> > > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses
are
> > > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit
card
> > > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the
need to
> > > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels
would slow
> > > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle
your
> > > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc².
The E
> > > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar
to
> > > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed
of
> > > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel
are
> > > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum
ACCELERATION
> > > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state?
(other
> > > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > > >
> > > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier
it
> > > is,
> > > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum
flywheel and
> > > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores
energy,
> > > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple
of
> > > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your
hundred
> > > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a
tenth of
> > > a
> > > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it
makes a
> > > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability,
like
> > > road
> > > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb
of
> > > sprung
> > > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
spinning forever, except for friction from the bearings, road and air. What
keeps the Earth spinning? What happened to Stephen Cowell, anyway?
I think that we need his expert opinion here.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C989FF.5B651FB4@***.net...
> Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
> never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
> a gyroscope run forever
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Earle,
> > Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> > speed of light.
> > Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> > in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> > if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> > of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called
"moment of
> > > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2
IR²,
> > > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where
m is
> > > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> > >
> > > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy
required
> > > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses
are
> > > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit
card
> > > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the
need to
> > > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels
would slow
> > > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle
your
> > > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc².
The E
> > > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar
to
> > > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed
of
> > > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel
are
> > > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum
ACCELERATION
> > > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state?
(other
> > > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > > >
> > > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier
it
> > > is,
> > > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum
flywheel and
> > > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores
energy,
> > > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple
of
> > > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your
hundred
> > > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a
tenth of
> > > a
> > > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it
makes a
> > > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability,
like
> > > road
> > > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb
of
> > > sprung
> > > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 03:26 PM
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
I didn't invent perpetual motion. Newton did. The wheel would keep
spinning forever, except for friction from the bearings, road and air. What
keeps the Earth spinning? What happened to Stephen Cowell, anyway?
I think that we need his expert opinion here.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C989FF.5B651FB4@***.net...
> Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
> never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
> a gyroscope run forever
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Earle,
> > Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> > speed of light.
> > Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> > in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> > if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> > of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called
"moment of
> > > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2
IR²,
> > > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where
m is
> > > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> > >
> > > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy
required
> > > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses
are
> > > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit
card
> > > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the
need to
> > > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels
would slow
> > > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle
your
> > > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc².
The E
> > > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar
to
> > > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed
of
> > > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel
are
> > > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum
ACCELERATION
> > > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state?
(other
> > > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > > >
> > > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier
it
> > > is,
> > > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum
flywheel and
> > > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores
energy,
> > > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple
of
> > > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your
hundred
> > > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a
tenth of
> > > a
> > > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it
makes a
> > > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability,
like
> > > road
> > > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb
of
> > > sprung
> > > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
spinning forever, except for friction from the bearings, road and air. What
keeps the Earth spinning? What happened to Stephen Cowell, anyway?
I think that we need his expert opinion here.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C989FF.5B651FB4@***.net...
> Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
> never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
> a gyroscope run forever
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Earle,
> > Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> > speed of light.
> > Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> > in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> > if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> > of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called
"moment of
> > > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2
IR²,
> > > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where
m is
> > > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> > >
> > > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy
required
> > > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses
are
> > > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit
card
> > > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the
need to
> > > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels
would slow
> > > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle
your
> > > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc².
The E
> > > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar
to
> > > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed
of
> > > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel
are
> > > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum
ACCELERATION
> > > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state?
(other
> > > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > > >
> > > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier
it
> > > is,
> > > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum
flywheel and
> > > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores
energy,
> > > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple
of
> > > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your
hundred
> > > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a
tenth of
> > > a
> > > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it
makes a
> > > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability,
like
> > > road
> > > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb
of
> > > sprung
> > > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
07-04-2005, 03:26 PM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Tire Size Question
I didn't invent perpetual motion. Newton did. The wheel would keep
spinning forever, except for friction from the bearings, road and air. What
keeps the Earth spinning? What happened to Stephen Cowell, anyway?
I think that we need his expert opinion here.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C989FF.5B651FB4@***.net...
> Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
> never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
> a gyroscope run forever
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Earle,
> > Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> > speed of light.
> > Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> > in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> > if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> > of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called
"moment of
> > > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2
IR²,
> > > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where
m is
> > > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> > >
> > > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy
required
> > > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses
are
> > > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit
card
> > > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the
need to
> > > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels
would slow
> > > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle
your
> > > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc².
The E
> > > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar
to
> > > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed
of
> > > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel
are
> > > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum
ACCELERATION
> > > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state?
(other
> > > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > > >
> > > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier
it
> > > is,
> > > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum
flywheel and
> > > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores
energy,
> > > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple
of
> > > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your
hundred
> > > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a
tenth of
> > > a
> > > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it
makes a
> > > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability,
like
> > > road
> > > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb
of
> > > sprung
> > > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
spinning forever, except for friction from the bearings, road and air. What
keeps the Earth spinning? What happened to Stephen Cowell, anyway?
I think that we need his expert opinion here.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42C989FF.5B651FB4@***.net...
> Perpetual motion, was the word I was looking for to explain your
> never ending spinning wheel. All though with a little help you may make
> a gyroscope run forever
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Hi Earle,
> > Yes, I know that's why I wrote the definition of C squared as the
> > speed of light.
> > Lance, will happy to know you have the secret of spontaneous energy
> > in that your wheel will never stop spinning. Size means nothing to you,
> > if you had a big enough lever you could move the earth. Where the rest
> > of us have to deal with centrifugal, kinetic, and inertia.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > E=mc² is not a formula from classical mechanics, which is what you are
> > > talking about here. The energy to get a wheel, or any other object,
> > > spinning depends on its "inertial mass", which is usually called
"moment of
> > > inertia", and the effective radius. Calculus gives the formula E=1/2
IR²,
> > > which is similar to the formula for a moving object, E=1/2 mv², where
m is
> > > the mass of the object and v is the velocity.
> > >
> > > Now, once you get an object moving or spinning, there is NO energy
required
> > > to keep it doing that, unless there are losses. In a vehicle, losses
are
> > > friction, air resistance, and that hundred pound girlfriend's credit
card
> > > usage. The wheels on Lance's bike have to be light because of the
need to
> > > accelerate, decelerate, and turn. Big heavy mountain bike wheels
would slow
> > > him down, but not for the reasons you state.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:42C8CF21.A4377FAB@***.net...
> > > > Horsepower, or imagine the the force you would need to peddle
your
> > > > bicycle, now put your Jeep tire on the bicycle and peddle. E=mc².
The E
> > > > stands for energy. The m stands for inertial mass, which is similar
to
> > > > (but not the same thing as) weight. C squared stands for the speed
of
> > > > light multiplied by itself. I would say Lance Armstrong bike wheel
are
> > > > very light right about now in france, not like his mountain bike.
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > RoyJ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason you use a 13 pound flywheel is to allow maximum
ACCELERATION
> > > > > of the engine. The reason for lightweight tires is to allow
> > > > > ACCELERATION. The reason to not take your girlfriend along is
> > > > > ACCELERATION So what does weight have to do with steady state?
(other
> > > > > than the additional wear on the bearings?)
> > > > >
> > > > > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > > > To keep something turning takes more horsepower the heavier
it
> > > is,
> > > > > > that's why the drag racers use a thirteen pound aluminum
flywheel and
> > > > > > lighter rims and tires. Of course, that flywheel also stores
energy,
> > > > > > that will made the stock V6 buick power CJ with it's fifty pound
> > > > > > flywheel easily crawl over rocks that would easily stop a couple
of
> > > > > > hundred more horsepower in a 350" Chevy V8. I know taking your
hundred
> > > > > > pound girlfriend with you down the drag strip will cost you a
tenth of
> > > a
> > > > > > second. As far as sprung and unsprung weight, all I know is it
makes a
> > > > > > great deal of difference in their ride and cornering ability,
like
> > > road
> > > > > > racers need independent suspension to win.
> > > > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave Milne wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>I read somewhere that every lb of unsprung weight is worth 10 lb
of
> > > sprung
> > > > > >>weight ; don't know if that's true or not.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > > > >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ