tire recommendations?
#41
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Re: tire recommendations?
Hmmmm.... I always had it at 30 for the Wrangler, I'll drop the pressure
down to 25-26 and wait for the next rainstorm, thanks,
Paul
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:94udnZyUK7euU0vd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> I run 28 pounds in my 31 x 10.5 x 15 BFG AT's on my '02 TJ. Seems just
right
> for on road pressure.
>
> Tom
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6wuBc.52211$wO4.37995@twister.socal.rr.com...
> snip
> >
> > True but with 31x10.5 tires inflated to 32-35lbs like most people do,
the
> > contact patch is real small. I'd bet a paycheck (albeit a military one,
> i.e.
> > small) that if Paw reduced his tire pressure to where the tire contact
> patch
> > is correct at around 25lbs give or take, the skidding problems will go
> away.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
down to 25-26 and wait for the next rainstorm, thanks,
Paul
"mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
news:94udnZyUK7euU0vd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> I run 28 pounds in my 31 x 10.5 x 15 BFG AT's on my '02 TJ. Seems just
right
> for on road pressure.
>
> Tom
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:6wuBc.52211$wO4.37995@twister.socal.rr.com...
> snip
> >
> > True but with 31x10.5 tires inflated to 32-35lbs like most people do,
the
> > contact patch is real small. I'd bet a paycheck (albeit a military one,
> i.e.
> > small) that if Paw reduced his tire pressure to where the tire contact
> patch
> > is correct at around 25lbs give or take, the skidding problems will go
> away.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
#42
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Re: tire recommendations?
Out here (Denver) I-25 construction (aka T-Rex) makes for horrible
SUDDEN stop, go, SUDDEN stop conditions. Luckily I don't have to drive
it very often. The last time I did, though, about a week or so ago, I
did manage to lock up the brakes momentarily (I backed off the brakes
immediately, though, just enough to get light chirps so I would stop
in time).
So yes, a TJ CAN lock its tires up on dry pavement. Even with stock
brakes, even running heavy 33x12.50 tires (BFG A/T KO w/extra siping).
That was very hard braking, though. Overall, these tires are actually
very awesome for stopping in any condition. And when I put them on
this last winter, I found I no longer needed to shift into 4wd when it
snowed. Very cool.
Unfortunately, the only drawback is I've found they truly weren't
aggressive enough for the kind of wheeling I do, so I'm counting the
days until I can get new tires (thinking about BFG MT or GY MT/R; also
toying with the idea of swampers)...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40D5F4D8.9683CFA2@***.net>...
> What are you driving I didn't think there was a Wrangler that could
> lock them up on dry pavement. And many time the rear will not over power
> an automatic pushing the car with locked front wheels through snowy
> intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Paw wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the recommend :)
> >
> > Paul
SUDDEN stop, go, SUDDEN stop conditions. Luckily I don't have to drive
it very often. The last time I did, though, about a week or so ago, I
did manage to lock up the brakes momentarily (I backed off the brakes
immediately, though, just enough to get light chirps so I would stop
in time).
So yes, a TJ CAN lock its tires up on dry pavement. Even with stock
brakes, even running heavy 33x12.50 tires (BFG A/T KO w/extra siping).
That was very hard braking, though. Overall, these tires are actually
very awesome for stopping in any condition. And when I put them on
this last winter, I found I no longer needed to shift into 4wd when it
snowed. Very cool.
Unfortunately, the only drawback is I've found they truly weren't
aggressive enough for the kind of wheeling I do, so I'm counting the
days until I can get new tires (thinking about BFG MT or GY MT/R; also
toying with the idea of swampers)...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40D5F4D8.9683CFA2@***.net>...
> What are you driving I didn't think there was a Wrangler that could
> lock them up on dry pavement. And many time the rear will not over power
> an automatic pushing the car with locked front wheels through snowy
> intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Paw wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the recommend :)
> >
> > Paul
#43
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Re: tire recommendations?
Out here (Denver) I-25 construction (aka T-Rex) makes for horrible
SUDDEN stop, go, SUDDEN stop conditions. Luckily I don't have to drive
it very often. The last time I did, though, about a week or so ago, I
did manage to lock up the brakes momentarily (I backed off the brakes
immediately, though, just enough to get light chirps so I would stop
in time).
So yes, a TJ CAN lock its tires up on dry pavement. Even with stock
brakes, even running heavy 33x12.50 tires (BFG A/T KO w/extra siping).
That was very hard braking, though. Overall, these tires are actually
very awesome for stopping in any condition. And when I put them on
this last winter, I found I no longer needed to shift into 4wd when it
snowed. Very cool.
Unfortunately, the only drawback is I've found they truly weren't
aggressive enough for the kind of wheeling I do, so I'm counting the
days until I can get new tires (thinking about BFG MT or GY MT/R; also
toying with the idea of swampers)...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40D5F4D8.9683CFA2@***.net>...
> What are you driving I didn't think there was a Wrangler that could
> lock them up on dry pavement. And many time the rear will not over power
> an automatic pushing the car with locked front wheels through snowy
> intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Paw wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the recommend :)
> >
> > Paul
SUDDEN stop, go, SUDDEN stop conditions. Luckily I don't have to drive
it very often. The last time I did, though, about a week or so ago, I
did manage to lock up the brakes momentarily (I backed off the brakes
immediately, though, just enough to get light chirps so I would stop
in time).
So yes, a TJ CAN lock its tires up on dry pavement. Even with stock
brakes, even running heavy 33x12.50 tires (BFG A/T KO w/extra siping).
That was very hard braking, though. Overall, these tires are actually
very awesome for stopping in any condition. And when I put them on
this last winter, I found I no longer needed to shift into 4wd when it
snowed. Very cool.
Unfortunately, the only drawback is I've found they truly weren't
aggressive enough for the kind of wheeling I do, so I'm counting the
days until I can get new tires (thinking about BFG MT or GY MT/R; also
toying with the idea of swampers)...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40D5F4D8.9683CFA2@***.net>...
> What are you driving I didn't think there was a Wrangler that could
> lock them up on dry pavement. And many time the rear will not over power
> an automatic pushing the car with locked front wheels through snowy
> intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Paw wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the recommend :)
> >
> > Paul
#44
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Re: tire recommendations?
Out here (Denver) I-25 construction (aka T-Rex) makes for horrible
SUDDEN stop, go, SUDDEN stop conditions. Luckily I don't have to drive
it very often. The last time I did, though, about a week or so ago, I
did manage to lock up the brakes momentarily (I backed off the brakes
immediately, though, just enough to get light chirps so I would stop
in time).
So yes, a TJ CAN lock its tires up on dry pavement. Even with stock
brakes, even running heavy 33x12.50 tires (BFG A/T KO w/extra siping).
That was very hard braking, though. Overall, these tires are actually
very awesome for stopping in any condition. And when I put them on
this last winter, I found I no longer needed to shift into 4wd when it
snowed. Very cool.
Unfortunately, the only drawback is I've found they truly weren't
aggressive enough for the kind of wheeling I do, so I'm counting the
days until I can get new tires (thinking about BFG MT or GY MT/R; also
toying with the idea of swampers)...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40D5F4D8.9683CFA2@***.net>...
> What are you driving I didn't think there was a Wrangler that could
> lock them up on dry pavement. And many time the rear will not over power
> an automatic pushing the car with locked front wheels through snowy
> intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Paw wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the recommend :)
> >
> > Paul
SUDDEN stop, go, SUDDEN stop conditions. Luckily I don't have to drive
it very often. The last time I did, though, about a week or so ago, I
did manage to lock up the brakes momentarily (I backed off the brakes
immediately, though, just enough to get light chirps so I would stop
in time).
So yes, a TJ CAN lock its tires up on dry pavement. Even with stock
brakes, even running heavy 33x12.50 tires (BFG A/T KO w/extra siping).
That was very hard braking, though. Overall, these tires are actually
very awesome for stopping in any condition. And when I put them on
this last winter, I found I no longer needed to shift into 4wd when it
snowed. Very cool.
Unfortunately, the only drawback is I've found they truly weren't
aggressive enough for the kind of wheeling I do, so I'm counting the
days until I can get new tires (thinking about BFG MT or GY MT/R; also
toying with the idea of swampers)...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40D5F4D8.9683CFA2@***.net>...
> What are you driving I didn't think there was a Wrangler that could
> lock them up on dry pavement. And many time the rear will not over power
> an automatic pushing the car with locked front wheels through snowy
> intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Paw wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the recommend :)
> >
> > Paul
#45
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire recommendations?
Out here (Denver) I-25 construction (aka T-Rex) makes for horrible
SUDDEN stop, go, SUDDEN stop conditions. Luckily I don't have to drive
it very often. The last time I did, though, about a week or so ago, I
did manage to lock up the brakes momentarily (I backed off the brakes
immediately, though, just enough to get light chirps so I would stop
in time).
So yes, a TJ CAN lock its tires up on dry pavement. Even with stock
brakes, even running heavy 33x12.50 tires (BFG A/T KO w/extra siping).
That was very hard braking, though. Overall, these tires are actually
very awesome for stopping in any condition. And when I put them on
this last winter, I found I no longer needed to shift into 4wd when it
snowed. Very cool.
Unfortunately, the only drawback is I've found they truly weren't
aggressive enough for the kind of wheeling I do, so I'm counting the
days until I can get new tires (thinking about BFG MT or GY MT/R; also
toying with the idea of swampers)...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40D5F4D8.9683CFA2@***.net>...
> What are you driving I didn't think there was a Wrangler that could
> lock them up on dry pavement. And many time the rear will not over power
> an automatic pushing the car with locked front wheels through snowy
> intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Paw wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the recommend :)
> >
> > Paul
SUDDEN stop, go, SUDDEN stop conditions. Luckily I don't have to drive
it very often. The last time I did, though, about a week or so ago, I
did manage to lock up the brakes momentarily (I backed off the brakes
immediately, though, just enough to get light chirps so I would stop
in time).
So yes, a TJ CAN lock its tires up on dry pavement. Even with stock
brakes, even running heavy 33x12.50 tires (BFG A/T KO w/extra siping).
That was very hard braking, though. Overall, these tires are actually
very awesome for stopping in any condition. And when I put them on
this last winter, I found I no longer needed to shift into 4wd when it
snowed. Very cool.
Unfortunately, the only drawback is I've found they truly weren't
aggressive enough for the kind of wheeling I do, so I'm counting the
days until I can get new tires (thinking about BFG MT or GY MT/R; also
toying with the idea of swampers)...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40D5F4D8.9683CFA2@***.net>...
> What are you driving I didn't think there was a Wrangler that could
> lock them up on dry pavement. And many time the rear will not over power
> an automatic pushing the car with locked front wheels through snowy
> intersections.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Paw wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info and the recommend :)
> >
> > Paul
#46
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Re: tire recommendations?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:50:24 -0400, "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
>what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
>Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I go.
>Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road, any
>somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
>skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue due
>to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
>owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
>mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to get
>rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
>foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
snow.
JD
2K-TJ
"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
>Hey all,
>
>Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
>what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
>Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I go.
>Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road, any
>somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
>skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue due
>to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
>owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
>mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to get
>rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
>foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
snow.
JD
2K-TJ
"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
#47
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Re: tire recommendations?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:50:24 -0400, "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
>what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
>Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I go.
>Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road, any
>somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
>skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue due
>to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
>owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
>mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to get
>rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
>foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
snow.
JD
2K-TJ
"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
>Hey all,
>
>Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
>what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
>Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I go.
>Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road, any
>somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
>skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue due
>to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
>owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
>mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to get
>rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
>foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
snow.
JD
2K-TJ
"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
#48
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Re: tire recommendations?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:50:24 -0400, "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
>what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
>Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I go.
>Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road, any
>somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
>skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue due
>to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
>owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
>mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to get
>rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
>foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
snow.
JD
2K-TJ
"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
>Hey all,
>
>Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
>what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
>Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I go.
>Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road, any
>somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
>skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue due
>to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
>owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
>mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to get
>rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
>foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
snow.
JD
2K-TJ
"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: tire recommendations?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:50:24 -0400, "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote:
>Hey all,
>
>Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
>what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
>Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I go.
>Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road, any
>somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
>skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue due
>to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
>owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
>mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to get
>rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
>foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
snow.
JD
2K-TJ
"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
>Hey all,
>
>Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
>what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
>Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I go.
>Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road, any
>somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
>skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue due
>to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
>owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
>mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to get
>rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
>foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Paul
>
I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
snow.
JD
2K-TJ
"There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
Joseph Duemer
#50
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Re: tire recommendations?
Thanks JD
Paul
"JD" <jdcarroll@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:45ced05j1kkaaidao2dkcd8ot6n2tjkf2m@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:50:24 -0400, "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote:
>
> >Hey all,
> >
> >Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
> >what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
> >Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I
go.
> >Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road,
any
> >somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
> >skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue
due
> >to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
> >owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
> >mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to
get
> >rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
> >foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Paul
> >
> I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
> snow.
> JD
> 2K-TJ
>
> "There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer
Paul
"JD" <jdcarroll@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:45ced05j1kkaaidao2dkcd8ot6n2tjkf2m@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 13:50:24 -0400, "Paw" <p@p.com> wrote:
>
> >Hey all,
> >
> >Presently have BFG All Terrain KOs 30x9.5 on 98 Wrangler Sport, which is
> >what I've had on my 96 and 98 Cherokees, and have enjoyed them on the
> >Cherokees. Good tread life, good enough off-road for the little areas I
go.
> >Problem w/ them on the Wrangler is that in most wet conditions on road,
any
> >somewhat hard application of the brakes, not trying to lock up makes them
> >skid almost all the time. I don't know if it is just a Wrangler issue
due
> >to swb?? but I never had any problems with them on any of the fj40s I've
> >owned in the past. Can anyone recommend a good on-road tire -- someone
> >mentioned the Yokohama Geolanders ?? previously I think. Just trying to
get
> >rid of the sliding on the pavement. And it's just not me and my lead
> >foot -- even the wife had the issue w/ the Wrangler. Any help/ideas are
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Paul
> >
> I've got the Dueler AT Revo's, 30x9.5 run at 29+lbs, great in rain and
> snow.
> JD
> 2K-TJ
>
> "There are some simple truths...And the dogs know what they are."
> Joseph Duemer