tire recommendations?
#181
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Re: tire recommendations?
I can lock the front up easily , servo with no abs. I've only ever locked
the rears in
a test in the wet mashing the brake pedal. Its not how I would normally
brake, but we
were discussing here whether it was possible, so I tried it in a car park.
Re the corvette - I admit I must have made a mistake somewhere. It was a
couple of years ago
that I measured it out for an insurance claim ( the 5 mph - 0 was "Volvo
assisted" - he pulled out in front of
me. I must have misrememberd the distance) But, I'll stick by my original
assertion that TJs
stop really well, albeit with the disconcerting "about to fly over the
handlebars" nose-dive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D7738F.8658A57A@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You know what I mean, lock them up, but of course like all TJs you
> can't.
> I think you may want to recalculate seeing you're able to stop in
> less than half the distance of a ZO6 Corvette:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> Or Highway Patrol specs:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I would if I knew what you meant ...
> > I've braked from 50 to 5 mph in 54 feet in my TJ. That's pretty damn
good
> > for a SWB 4000lb vehicle, leastways my Dad and I thought so.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the rears in
a test in the wet mashing the brake pedal. Its not how I would normally
brake, but we
were discussing here whether it was possible, so I tried it in a car park.
Re the corvette - I admit I must have made a mistake somewhere. It was a
couple of years ago
that I measured it out for an insurance claim ( the 5 mph - 0 was "Volvo
assisted" - he pulled out in front of
me. I must have misrememberd the distance) But, I'll stick by my original
assertion that TJs
stop really well, albeit with the disconcerting "about to fly over the
handlebars" nose-dive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D7738F.8658A57A@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You know what I mean, lock them up, but of course like all TJs you
> can't.
> I think you may want to recalculate seeing you're able to stop in
> less than half the distance of a ZO6 Corvette:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> Or Highway Patrol specs:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I would if I knew what you meant ...
> > I've braked from 50 to 5 mph in 54 feet in my TJ. That's pretty damn
good
> > for a SWB 4000lb vehicle, leastways my Dad and I thought so.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#182
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire recommendations?
I can lock the front up easily , servo with no abs. I've only ever locked
the rears in
a test in the wet mashing the brake pedal. Its not how I would normally
brake, but we
were discussing here whether it was possible, so I tried it in a car park.
Re the corvette - I admit I must have made a mistake somewhere. It was a
couple of years ago
that I measured it out for an insurance claim ( the 5 mph - 0 was "Volvo
assisted" - he pulled out in front of
me. I must have misrememberd the distance) But, I'll stick by my original
assertion that TJs
stop really well, albeit with the disconcerting "about to fly over the
handlebars" nose-dive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D7738F.8658A57A@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You know what I mean, lock them up, but of course like all TJs you
> can't.
> I think you may want to recalculate seeing you're able to stop in
> less than half the distance of a ZO6 Corvette:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> Or Highway Patrol specs:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I would if I knew what you meant ...
> > I've braked from 50 to 5 mph in 54 feet in my TJ. That's pretty damn
good
> > for a SWB 4000lb vehicle, leastways my Dad and I thought so.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the rears in
a test in the wet mashing the brake pedal. Its not how I would normally
brake, but we
were discussing here whether it was possible, so I tried it in a car park.
Re the corvette - I admit I must have made a mistake somewhere. It was a
couple of years ago
that I measured it out for an insurance claim ( the 5 mph - 0 was "Volvo
assisted" - he pulled out in front of
me. I must have misrememberd the distance) But, I'll stick by my original
assertion that TJs
stop really well, albeit with the disconcerting "about to fly over the
handlebars" nose-dive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D7738F.8658A57A@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You know what I mean, lock them up, but of course like all TJs you
> can't.
> I think you may want to recalculate seeing you're able to stop in
> less than half the distance of a ZO6 Corvette:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> Or Highway Patrol specs:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I would if I knew what you meant ...
> > I've braked from 50 to 5 mph in 54 feet in my TJ. That's pretty damn
good
> > for a SWB 4000lb vehicle, leastways my Dad and I thought so.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#183
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire recommendations?
I can lock the front up easily , servo with no abs. I've only ever locked
the rears in
a test in the wet mashing the brake pedal. Its not how I would normally
brake, but we
were discussing here whether it was possible, so I tried it in a car park.
Re the corvette - I admit I must have made a mistake somewhere. It was a
couple of years ago
that I measured it out for an insurance claim ( the 5 mph - 0 was "Volvo
assisted" - he pulled out in front of
me. I must have misrememberd the distance) But, I'll stick by my original
assertion that TJs
stop really well, albeit with the disconcerting "about to fly over the
handlebars" nose-dive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D7738F.8658A57A@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You know what I mean, lock them up, but of course like all TJs you
> can't.
> I think you may want to recalculate seeing you're able to stop in
> less than half the distance of a ZO6 Corvette:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> Or Highway Patrol specs:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I would if I knew what you meant ...
> > I've braked from 50 to 5 mph in 54 feet in my TJ. That's pretty damn
good
> > for a SWB 4000lb vehicle, leastways my Dad and I thought so.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the rears in
a test in the wet mashing the brake pedal. Its not how I would normally
brake, but we
were discussing here whether it was possible, so I tried it in a car park.
Re the corvette - I admit I must have made a mistake somewhere. It was a
couple of years ago
that I measured it out for an insurance claim ( the 5 mph - 0 was "Volvo
assisted" - he pulled out in front of
me. I must have misrememberd the distance) But, I'll stick by my original
assertion that TJs
stop really well, albeit with the disconcerting "about to fly over the
handlebars" nose-dive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D7738F.8658A57A@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You know what I mean, lock them up, but of course like all TJs you
> can't.
> I think you may want to recalculate seeing you're able to stop in
> less than half the distance of a ZO6 Corvette:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> Or Highway Patrol specs:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I would if I knew what you meant ...
> > I've braked from 50 to 5 mph in 54 feet in my TJ. That's pretty damn
good
> > for a SWB 4000lb vehicle, leastways my Dad and I thought so.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#184
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire recommendations?
I can lock the front up easily , servo with no abs. I've only ever locked
the rears in
a test in the wet mashing the brake pedal. Its not how I would normally
brake, but we
were discussing here whether it was possible, so I tried it in a car park.
Re the corvette - I admit I must have made a mistake somewhere. It was a
couple of years ago
that I measured it out for an insurance claim ( the 5 mph - 0 was "Volvo
assisted" - he pulled out in front of
me. I must have misrememberd the distance) But, I'll stick by my original
assertion that TJs
stop really well, albeit with the disconcerting "about to fly over the
handlebars" nose-dive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D7738F.8658A57A@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You know what I mean, lock them up, but of course like all TJs you
> can't.
> I think you may want to recalculate seeing you're able to stop in
> less than half the distance of a ZO6 Corvette:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> Or Highway Patrol specs:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I would if I knew what you meant ...
> > I've braked from 50 to 5 mph in 54 feet in my TJ. That's pretty damn
good
> > for a SWB 4000lb vehicle, leastways my Dad and I thought so.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
the rears in
a test in the wet mashing the brake pedal. Its not how I would normally
brake, but we
were discussing here whether it was possible, so I tried it in a car park.
Re the corvette - I admit I must have made a mistake somewhere. It was a
couple of years ago
that I measured it out for an insurance claim ( the 5 mph - 0 was "Volvo
assisted" - he pulled out in front of
me. I must have misrememberd the distance) But, I'll stick by my original
assertion that TJs
stop really well, albeit with the disconcerting "about to fly over the
handlebars" nose-dive.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40D7738F.8658A57A@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You know what I mean, lock them up, but of course like all TJs you
> can't.
> I think you may want to recalculate seeing you're able to stop in
> less than half the distance of a ZO6 Corvette:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> Or Highway Patrol specs:
>
http://applications.edmunds.com/revi...7/page001.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I would if I knew what you meant ...
> > I've braked from 50 to 5 mph in 54 feet in my TJ. That's pretty damn
good
> > for a SWB 4000lb vehicle, leastways my Dad and I thought so.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
#185
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Re: tire recommendations?
The DC recommended air pressure diff. btwn the std. TJ and the Rubicon
is 4 psi. I'm assuming that is due to the nature of the tires (80#) and
the slight increase in weight of the Rubicon over, say, the Sport.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Interesting they call for that high and yup the winch counts. Likely
> they say go high for gas mileage reasons. A harder tire has less rubber
> touching the road which is less friction.
>
> If I put 33 psi in my 9.5's and chalk test, I only have 4" of tread
> touching ground.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Lead? Well does a Warn winch and a rear bumper combo count as lead? :)
>>
>>The Rubicon's door says 33 psi., the tires are at 35 psi., I think below
>>29 is too low, but I have not used the chalk method to test them.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
>>>running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>>>
>>>For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
>>>with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
>>>a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>>>
>>>I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
>>>like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lower than 29psi on an 80psi tire??
>>>>
>>>>Richard Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd go lower than 29...
>>>>>Use the chalk method..
>>>>>
>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ezlCc.8007$9v1.3745@newssvr22.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying it means run them at the full 80 psi on the TJ, but NOT
>>>>>>29 psi either, as the door jam states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that's just for test rating purposes, meaning it's at least
>>>>>>>a six ply rating. But if you want to keep your bearings it hope you
>>>>>>>don't go any higher than forty pounds.
>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought it was wrong, at first, too. The sidewall doesn't lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>____________________________________________ _______________
>>>>>>tw
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
is 4 psi. I'm assuming that is due to the nature of the tires (80#) and
the slight increase in weight of the Rubicon over, say, the Sport.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Interesting they call for that high and yup the winch counts. Likely
> they say go high for gas mileage reasons. A harder tire has less rubber
> touching the road which is less friction.
>
> If I put 33 psi in my 9.5's and chalk test, I only have 4" of tread
> touching ground.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Lead? Well does a Warn winch and a rear bumper combo count as lead? :)
>>
>>The Rubicon's door says 33 psi., the tires are at 35 psi., I think below
>>29 is too low, but I have not used the chalk method to test them.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
>>>running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>>>
>>>For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
>>>with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
>>>a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>>>
>>>I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
>>>like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lower than 29psi on an 80psi tire??
>>>>
>>>>Richard Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd go lower than 29...
>>>>>Use the chalk method..
>>>>>
>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ezlCc.8007$9v1.3745@newssvr22.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying it means run them at the full 80 psi on the TJ, but NOT
>>>>>>29 psi either, as the door jam states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that's just for test rating purposes, meaning it's at least
>>>>>>>a six ply rating. But if you want to keep your bearings it hope you
>>>>>>>don't go any higher than forty pounds.
>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought it was wrong, at first, too. The sidewall doesn't lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>____________________________________________ _______________
>>>>>>tw
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
#186
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Re: tire recommendations?
The DC recommended air pressure diff. btwn the std. TJ and the Rubicon
is 4 psi. I'm assuming that is due to the nature of the tires (80#) and
the slight increase in weight of the Rubicon over, say, the Sport.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Interesting they call for that high and yup the winch counts. Likely
> they say go high for gas mileage reasons. A harder tire has less rubber
> touching the road which is less friction.
>
> If I put 33 psi in my 9.5's and chalk test, I only have 4" of tread
> touching ground.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Lead? Well does a Warn winch and a rear bumper combo count as lead? :)
>>
>>The Rubicon's door says 33 psi., the tires are at 35 psi., I think below
>>29 is too low, but I have not used the chalk method to test them.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
>>>running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>>>
>>>For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
>>>with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
>>>a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>>>
>>>I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
>>>like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lower than 29psi on an 80psi tire??
>>>>
>>>>Richard Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd go lower than 29...
>>>>>Use the chalk method..
>>>>>
>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ezlCc.8007$9v1.3745@newssvr22.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying it means run them at the full 80 psi on the TJ, but NOT
>>>>>>29 psi either, as the door jam states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that's just for test rating purposes, meaning it's at least
>>>>>>>a six ply rating. But if you want to keep your bearings it hope you
>>>>>>>don't go any higher than forty pounds.
>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought it was wrong, at first, too. The sidewall doesn't lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>____________________________________________ _______________
>>>>>>tw
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
is 4 psi. I'm assuming that is due to the nature of the tires (80#) and
the slight increase in weight of the Rubicon over, say, the Sport.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Interesting they call for that high and yup the winch counts. Likely
> they say go high for gas mileage reasons. A harder tire has less rubber
> touching the road which is less friction.
>
> If I put 33 psi in my 9.5's and chalk test, I only have 4" of tread
> touching ground.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Lead? Well does a Warn winch and a rear bumper combo count as lead? :)
>>
>>The Rubicon's door says 33 psi., the tires are at 35 psi., I think below
>>29 is too low, but I have not used the chalk method to test them.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
>>>running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>>>
>>>For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
>>>with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
>>>a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>>>
>>>I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
>>>like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lower than 29psi on an 80psi tire??
>>>>
>>>>Richard Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd go lower than 29...
>>>>>Use the chalk method..
>>>>>
>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ezlCc.8007$9v1.3745@newssvr22.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying it means run them at the full 80 psi on the TJ, but NOT
>>>>>>29 psi either, as the door jam states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that's just for test rating purposes, meaning it's at least
>>>>>>>a six ply rating. But if you want to keep your bearings it hope you
>>>>>>>don't go any higher than forty pounds.
>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought it was wrong, at first, too. The sidewall doesn't lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>____________________________________________ _______________
>>>>>>tw
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
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tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: tire recommendations?
The DC recommended air pressure diff. btwn the std. TJ and the Rubicon
is 4 psi. I'm assuming that is due to the nature of the tires (80#) and
the slight increase in weight of the Rubicon over, say, the Sport.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Interesting they call for that high and yup the winch counts. Likely
> they say go high for gas mileage reasons. A harder tire has less rubber
> touching the road which is less friction.
>
> If I put 33 psi in my 9.5's and chalk test, I only have 4" of tread
> touching ground.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Lead? Well does a Warn winch and a rear bumper combo count as lead? :)
>>
>>The Rubicon's door says 33 psi., the tires are at 35 psi., I think below
>>29 is too low, but I have not used the chalk method to test them.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
>>>running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>>>
>>>For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
>>>with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
>>>a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>>>
>>>I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
>>>like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lower than 29psi on an 80psi tire??
>>>>
>>>>Richard Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd go lower than 29...
>>>>>Use the chalk method..
>>>>>
>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ezlCc.8007$9v1.3745@newssvr22.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying it means run them at the full 80 psi on the TJ, but NOT
>>>>>>29 psi either, as the door jam states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that's just for test rating purposes, meaning it's at least
>>>>>>>a six ply rating. But if you want to keep your bearings it hope you
>>>>>>>don't go any higher than forty pounds.
>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought it was wrong, at first, too. The sidewall doesn't lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>____________________________________________ _______________
>>>>>>tw
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
is 4 psi. I'm assuming that is due to the nature of the tires (80#) and
the slight increase in weight of the Rubicon over, say, the Sport.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Interesting they call for that high and yup the winch counts. Likely
> they say go high for gas mileage reasons. A harder tire has less rubber
> touching the road which is less friction.
>
> If I put 33 psi in my 9.5's and chalk test, I only have 4" of tread
> touching ground.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Lead? Well does a Warn winch and a rear bumper combo count as lead? :)
>>
>>The Rubicon's door says 33 psi., the tires are at 35 psi., I think below
>>29 is too low, but I have not used the chalk method to test them.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
>>>running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>>>
>>>For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
>>>with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
>>>a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>>>
>>>I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
>>>like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lower than 29psi on an 80psi tire??
>>>>
>>>>Richard Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd go lower than 29...
>>>>>Use the chalk method..
>>>>>
>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ezlCc.8007$9v1.3745@newssvr22.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying it means run them at the full 80 psi on the TJ, but NOT
>>>>>>29 psi either, as the door jam states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that's just for test rating purposes, meaning it's at least
>>>>>>>a six ply rating. But if you want to keep your bearings it hope you
>>>>>>>don't go any higher than forty pounds.
>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought it was wrong, at first, too. The sidewall doesn't lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>____________________________________________ _______________
>>>>>>tw
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: tire recommendations?
The DC recommended air pressure diff. btwn the std. TJ and the Rubicon
is 4 psi. I'm assuming that is due to the nature of the tires (80#) and
the slight increase in weight of the Rubicon over, say, the Sport.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Interesting they call for that high and yup the winch counts. Likely
> they say go high for gas mileage reasons. A harder tire has less rubber
> touching the road which is less friction.
>
> If I put 33 psi in my 9.5's and chalk test, I only have 4" of tread
> touching ground.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Lead? Well does a Warn winch and a rear bumper combo count as lead? :)
>>
>>The Rubicon's door says 33 psi., the tires are at 35 psi., I think below
>>29 is too low, but I have not used the chalk method to test them.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
>>>running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>>>
>>>For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
>>>with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
>>>a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>>>
>>>I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
>>>like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lower than 29psi on an 80psi tire??
>>>>
>>>>Richard Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd go lower than 29...
>>>>>Use the chalk method..
>>>>>
>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ezlCc.8007$9v1.3745@newssvr22.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying it means run them at the full 80 psi on the TJ, but NOT
>>>>>>29 psi either, as the door jam states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that's just for test rating purposes, meaning it's at least
>>>>>>>a six ply rating. But if you want to keep your bearings it hope you
>>>>>>>don't go any higher than forty pounds.
>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought it was wrong, at first, too. The sidewall doesn't lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>____________________________________________ _______________
>>>>>>tw
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
is 4 psi. I'm assuming that is due to the nature of the tires (80#) and
the slight increase in weight of the Rubicon over, say, the Sport.
Mike Romain wrote:
> Interesting they call for that high and yup the winch counts. Likely
> they say go high for gas mileage reasons. A harder tire has less rubber
> touching the road which is less friction.
>
> If I put 33 psi in my 9.5's and chalk test, I only have 4" of tread
> touching ground.
>
> Mike
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Lead? Well does a Warn winch and a rear bumper combo count as lead? :)
>>
>>The Rubicon's door says 33 psi., the tires are at 35 psi., I think below
>>29 is too low, but I have not used the chalk method to test them.
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
>>>running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>>>
>>>For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
>>>with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
>>>a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>>>
>>>I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
>>>like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Lower than 29psi on an 80psi tire??
>>>>
>>>>Richard Harris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'd go lower than 29...
>>>>>Use the chalk method..
>>>>>
>>>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ezlCc.8007$9v1.3745@newssvr22.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not saying it means run them at the full 80 psi on the TJ, but NOT
>>>>>>29 psi either, as the door jam states.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but that's just for test rating purposes, meaning it's at least
>>>>>>>a six ply rating. But if you want to keep your bearings it hope you
>>>>>>>don't go any higher than forty pounds.
>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>twaldron wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I thought it was wrong, at first, too. The sidewall doesn't lie.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>____________________________________________ _______________
>>>>>>tw
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: tire recommendations?
The manufacturers sticker weight is getting up there since the
Explorer, Firestone 24 pounds:
http://www.----------.com/WJTirePressure.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
> running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>
> For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
> with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
> a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>
> I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
> like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Explorer, Firestone 24 pounds:
http://www.----------.com/WJTirePressure.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
> running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>
> For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
> with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
> a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>
> I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
> like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#190
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Posts: n/a
Re: tire recommendations?
The manufacturers sticker weight is getting up there since the
Explorer, Firestone 24 pounds:
http://www.----------.com/WJTirePressure.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
> running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>
> For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
> with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
> a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>
> I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
> like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Explorer, Firestone 24 pounds:
http://www.----------.com/WJTirePressure.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> How much lead to you have in the back of the jeep that would warrant
> running over pressure for your vehicle's sticker weight?
>
> For my CJ7 with it's original steel body, 26 psi gave a decent footprint
> with 31x10.5 tires. I ran 28 fully loaded which is about the weight of
> a TJ empty and all 4 tires wore out perfectly even all at the same time.
>
> I have to keep my 33x9.5's at 29 psi or I get more side roll than I
> like, but they handle better down near 25 psi.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's