Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

KJ.Kate wrote:
<<snip>>
> Gawd, I guess so!
> The F two-fitty that lives here earns it's keep.
>
> At only a 3/4 ton truck, this summer we made several trips with just under
> two tons a piece in the back of it.
> Hauling rock, gravel, sand and landscaping materials. If you don't work a
> truck, why have it?

My thinking exactly. I buy vehicles either to do a job or for my own
amusement, no one else's.

Most of the huge Power Stroke and Durmax and Cummins Dodge trucks I
see spend most of their time doing a job a Geo Metro could do as
well-hauling one person, no cargo. And those that do work are often
doing a job, like hauling a race car or horse trailer, a medium duty is
really called for.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

KJ.Kate wrote:
<<snip>>
> Gawd, I guess so!
> The F two-fitty that lives here earns it's keep.
>
> At only a 3/4 ton truck, this summer we made several trips with just under
> two tons a piece in the back of it.
> Hauling rock, gravel, sand and landscaping materials. If you don't work a
> truck, why have it?

My thinking exactly. I buy vehicles either to do a job or for my own
amusement, no one else's.

Most of the huge Power Stroke and Durmax and Cummins Dodge trucks I
see spend most of their time doing a job a Geo Metro could do as
well-hauling one person, no cargo. And those that do work are often
doing a job, like hauling a race car or horse trailer, a medium duty is
really called for.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Bill.
(rant on)
We all know you drink diesel and love 18 wheelers but hate diesel cars. But
for the record, the first VW rabbit in the US was in 1977 and they remained
till the end of the rabbit and continued in the golfs and jettas. They were
gone from 1993 till 1996 when the electronic tdi version first appeared in
the Passat. Also the state of the art TDI version is direct injected, common
rail, turbocharged with a intercooler and is a "drive by wire" design with a
catalic converter. I once traveled just over a thousand miles on one tank in
my passat so I also could "choose what town" I wanted to buy fuel in. While
we're talking about fuel if you truckers would stop complaining about price
and complain about the low quality of the fuel and scrap all those old Mack
smooke belching relics, we would all be better off. And it's the people
using fuel oil to heat their houses in the New England states that cause the
price of diesel to go up. "Supply and demand" as you so rightly put it. And
also I'm not a bleeding heart liberal and I do understand. If I could get a
late model Cherokee diesel that was built 100 miles from here but not sold
in the US I would quickly do so. But in my mind the " girly" libby is just
another suv wanna be and can't hold a candle to a Cherokee for practicality.
If it could there would be one in my driveway. Every one of my 12 or so VW
diesels averaged over 40 mpg and that sure beats the 20 mpg at tops on my
XJ that weights the same as my last jetta that averaged over 49 mpg for over
100k miles.
(rant off)

Joe



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:435D6201.5B3A83C6@cox.net...
> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
the demand so much.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Bill.
(rant on)
We all know you drink diesel and love 18 wheelers but hate diesel cars. But
for the record, the first VW rabbit in the US was in 1977 and they remained
till the end of the rabbit and continued in the golfs and jettas. They were
gone from 1993 till 1996 when the electronic tdi version first appeared in
the Passat. Also the state of the art TDI version is direct injected, common
rail, turbocharged with a intercooler and is a "drive by wire" design with a
catalic converter. I once traveled just over a thousand miles on one tank in
my passat so I also could "choose what town" I wanted to buy fuel in. While
we're talking about fuel if you truckers would stop complaining about price
and complain about the low quality of the fuel and scrap all those old Mack
smooke belching relics, we would all be better off. And it's the people
using fuel oil to heat their houses in the New England states that cause the
price of diesel to go up. "Supply and demand" as you so rightly put it. And
also I'm not a bleeding heart liberal and I do understand. If I could get a
late model Cherokee diesel that was built 100 miles from here but not sold
in the US I would quickly do so. But in my mind the " girly" libby is just
another suv wanna be and can't hold a candle to a Cherokee for practicality.
If it could there would be one in my driveway. Every one of my 12 or so VW
diesels averaged over 40 mpg and that sure beats the 20 mpg at tops on my
XJ that weights the same as my last jetta that averaged over 49 mpg for over
100k miles.
(rant off)

Joe



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:435D6201.5B3A83C6@cox.net...
> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
the demand so much.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

Bill.
(rant on)
We all know you drink diesel and love 18 wheelers but hate diesel cars. But
for the record, the first VW rabbit in the US was in 1977 and they remained
till the end of the rabbit and continued in the golfs and jettas. They were
gone from 1993 till 1996 when the electronic tdi version first appeared in
the Passat. Also the state of the art TDI version is direct injected, common
rail, turbocharged with a intercooler and is a "drive by wire" design with a
catalic converter. I once traveled just over a thousand miles on one tank in
my passat so I also could "choose what town" I wanted to buy fuel in. While
we're talking about fuel if you truckers would stop complaining about price
and complain about the low quality of the fuel and scrap all those old Mack
smooke belching relics, we would all be better off. And it's the people
using fuel oil to heat their houses in the New England states that cause the
price of diesel to go up. "Supply and demand" as you so rightly put it. And
also I'm not a bleeding heart liberal and I do understand. If I could get a
late model Cherokee diesel that was built 100 miles from here but not sold
in the US I would quickly do so. But in my mind the " girly" libby is just
another suv wanna be and can't hold a candle to a Cherokee for practicality.
If it could there would be one in my driveway. Every one of my 12 or so VW
diesels averaged over 40 mpg and that sure beats the 20 mpg at tops on my
XJ that weights the same as my last jetta that averaged over 49 mpg for over
100k miles.
(rant off)

Joe



"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:435D6201.5B3A83C6@cox.net...
> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
the demand so much.

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

http://www.edmunds.com/news/regularn...8/article.html

Chrysler May Introduce More Diesel Vehicles in U.S.
Date Posted 05-05-2005
The Chrysler Group may increase production of diesel versions of the Jeep
Liberty, which went on sale toward the end of January. The company already
plans on building 5,000 units of this vehicle in 2005, although company
sources told Autoweek that they will certainly be willing to build more if
necessary. The car has proven a runaway hit already, selling in quantities
of over 1,700 units in less than four full months on the market.

Chrysler is also considering building a diesel version of the Jeep Grand
Cherokee for the U.S. A diesel version of the car is currently sold in
Germany.

The company's statistics show that diesel-powered vehicles get 27-percent
better fuel economy than comparably equipped gasoline-powered variants.


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"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:12R7f.95982$tD4.30617@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> Bill.
> (rant on)
> We all know you drink diesel and love 18 wheelers but hate diesel cars.
> But for the record, the first VW rabbit in the US was in 1977 and they
> remained till the end of the rabbit and continued in the golfs and jettas.
> They were gone from 1993 till 1996 when the electronic tdi version first
> appeared in the Passat. Also the state of the art TDI version is direct
> injected, common rail, turbocharged with a intercooler and is a "drive by
> wire" design with a catalic converter. I once traveled just over a
> thousand miles on one tank in my passat so I also could "choose what town"
> I wanted to buy fuel in. While we're talking about fuel if you truckers
> would stop complaining about price and complain about the low quality of
> the fuel and scrap all those old Mack smooke belching relics, we would all
> be better off. And it's the people using fuel oil to heat their houses in
> the New England states that cause the price of diesel to go up. "Supply
> and demand" as you so rightly put it. And also I'm not a bleeding heart
> liberal and I do understand. If I could get a late model Cherokee diesel
> that was built 100 miles from here but not sold in the US I would quickly
> do so. But in my mind the " girly" libby is just another suv wanna be and
> can't hold a candle to a Cherokee for practicality. If it could there
> would be one in my driveway. Every one of my 12 or so VW diesels averaged
> over 40 mpg and that sure beats the 20 mpg at tops on my XJ that weights
> the same as my last jetta that averaged over 49 mpg for over 100k miles.
> (rant off)
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:435D6201.5B3A83C6@cox.net...
>> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
>> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
>> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
>> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
>> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
> the demand so much.
>

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

http://www.edmunds.com/news/regularn...8/article.html

Chrysler May Introduce More Diesel Vehicles in U.S.
Date Posted 05-05-2005
The Chrysler Group may increase production of diesel versions of the Jeep
Liberty, which went on sale toward the end of January. The company already
plans on building 5,000 units of this vehicle in 2005, although company
sources told Autoweek that they will certainly be willing to build more if
necessary. The car has proven a runaway hit already, selling in quantities
of over 1,700 units in less than four full months on the market.

Chrysler is also considering building a diesel version of the Jeep Grand
Cherokee for the U.S. A diesel version of the car is currently sold in
Germany.

The company's statistics show that diesel-powered vehicles get 27-percent
better fuel economy than comparably equipped gasoline-powered variants.


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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:12R7f.95982$tD4.30617@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> Bill.
> (rant on)
> We all know you drink diesel and love 18 wheelers but hate diesel cars.
> But for the record, the first VW rabbit in the US was in 1977 and they
> remained till the end of the rabbit and continued in the golfs and jettas.
> They were gone from 1993 till 1996 when the electronic tdi version first
> appeared in the Passat. Also the state of the art TDI version is direct
> injected, common rail, turbocharged with a intercooler and is a "drive by
> wire" design with a catalic converter. I once traveled just over a
> thousand miles on one tank in my passat so I also could "choose what town"
> I wanted to buy fuel in. While we're talking about fuel if you truckers
> would stop complaining about price and complain about the low quality of
> the fuel and scrap all those old Mack smooke belching relics, we would all
> be better off. And it's the people using fuel oil to heat their houses in
> the New England states that cause the price of diesel to go up. "Supply
> and demand" as you so rightly put it. And also I'm not a bleeding heart
> liberal and I do understand. If I could get a late model Cherokee diesel
> that was built 100 miles from here but not sold in the US I would quickly
> do so. But in my mind the " girly" libby is just another suv wanna be and
> can't hold a candle to a Cherokee for practicality. If it could there
> would be one in my driveway. Every one of my 12 or so VW diesels averaged
> over 40 mpg and that sure beats the 20 mpg at tops on my XJ that weights
> the same as my last jetta that averaged over 49 mpg for over 100k miles.
> (rant off)
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:435D6201.5B3A83C6@cox.net...
>> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
>> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
>> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
>> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
>> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
> the demand so much.
>

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

http://www.edmunds.com/news/regularn...8/article.html

Chrysler May Introduce More Diesel Vehicles in U.S.
Date Posted 05-05-2005
The Chrysler Group may increase production of diesel versions of the Jeep
Liberty, which went on sale toward the end of January. The company already
plans on building 5,000 units of this vehicle in 2005, although company
sources told Autoweek that they will certainly be willing to build more if
necessary. The car has proven a runaway hit already, selling in quantities
of over 1,700 units in less than four full months on the market.

Chrysler is also considering building a diesel version of the Jeep Grand
Cherokee for the U.S. A diesel version of the car is currently sold in
Germany.

The company's statistics show that diesel-powered vehicles get 27-percent
better fuel economy than comparably equipped gasoline-powered variants.


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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Jo Bo" <jromasSPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:12R7f.95982$tD4.30617@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> Bill.
> (rant on)
> We all know you drink diesel and love 18 wheelers but hate diesel cars.
> But for the record, the first VW rabbit in the US was in 1977 and they
> remained till the end of the rabbit and continued in the golfs and jettas.
> They were gone from 1993 till 1996 when the electronic tdi version first
> appeared in the Passat. Also the state of the art TDI version is direct
> injected, common rail, turbocharged with a intercooler and is a "drive by
> wire" design with a catalic converter. I once traveled just over a
> thousand miles on one tank in my passat so I also could "choose what town"
> I wanted to buy fuel in. While we're talking about fuel if you truckers
> would stop complaining about price and complain about the low quality of
> the fuel and scrap all those old Mack smooke belching relics, we would all
> be better off. And it's the people using fuel oil to heat their houses in
> the New England states that cause the price of diesel to go up. "Supply
> and demand" as you so rightly put it. And also I'm not a bleeding heart
> liberal and I do understand. If I could get a late model Cherokee diesel
> that was built 100 miles from here but not sold in the US I would quickly
> do so. But in my mind the " girly" libby is just another suv wanna be and
> can't hold a candle to a Cherokee for practicality. If it could there
> would be one in my driveway. Every one of my 12 or so VW diesels averaged
> over 40 mpg and that sure beats the 20 mpg at tops on my XJ that weights
> the same as my last jetta that averaged over 49 mpg for over 100k miles.
> (rant off)
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:435D6201.5B3A83C6@cox.net...
>> What makes you act like an idiot? it was Mercedes that started this
>> flood of dirty cars, that eat into the truckers profits. If it wasn't
>> for them no one would have bought that VW Golf in '79 that lasted about
>> another year, but further opened the door. Like all bleeding heart
>> liberals, I doubt you'll understand.
> the demand so much.
>

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

That's a damn good one liner :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:4GJ7f.13033$ty1.3943@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. .

> Why, if they don't like men, would they so hard to BE one?

Re: Though Jeep, Libty is 100% girl car
 

That's a damn good one liner :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"KJ.Kate" <KJ.Kate@WhoseHotMail.com> wrote in message
news:4GJ7f.13033$ty1.3943@bignews1.bellsouth.net.. .

> Why, if they don't like men, would they so hard to BE one?